The Traitors Australia - Season 3 Week 1 (w/ Adam Seymour)

It’s a brand new season of The Traitors Australia and we have QUEER on QUEER violence right out the gates people! Husband to the pod Adam joins Sam on the couch the chit chat about all of the insane chaos from this messy boots cast. Keira and Manaaki have stolen the show, Kirby is in hot water and Rhys is giving baby girl. Gretel’s 11 load weekend is only just getting started and we are OBSESSED. Plus we look at the trailer for JLP’s new gig, Apocalypse.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:07

This podcast was produced on the land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation.

SPEAKER_03 0:24

Sorry about this. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

Oh my god. It's my husband back on the pod so soon.

SPEAKER_02 0:34

Last minute ringing.

SPEAKER_00 0:35

Yeah. I mean, what? You've been scheduled for weeks. What are you talking about? Woohoo! I'm so lucky to have you. How are you, darling?

SPEAKER_02 0:43

I'm good. Frida's gagging top dog.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

Frida is activated. She's a big cradle galleon fan. She's very happy to have Mother back on our screens, aren't you, Frida? Yes. Yes. Um, before we jump into the first two episodes of season three of The Traders Australia this week, and fuck, there's so much to talk about. Um, we need to discuss Apocalypse. Did you see the trailer? I sent it to you before.

SPEAKER_02 1:11

No, I've been very busy.

SPEAKER_00 1:13

Okay, you've actually been working hard today. Yes. Um alright, well, great. I get to tell it, I get to explain to you. So Apocalypse Perez Hilton. So Apocalypse. Oh my god. Sorry. Oh my god. Crazy girl. Yeah Perez Hilton. Beggars. Love and Light to her, however she's doing. Um Apocalypse is a brand new reality show format. Oh, with JLP. JLP is the narrating it. It's by ITV Studios who did Alone Australia and Squid Game, the challenge. Okay. Two of I think the highest quality reality shows that exist. Like she really upgraded from Channel 10. I it's such a fuck you to 10, isn't it? It's like, thank you. Now I'm gonna go and do this show. It's like an international show, but binge are distributing it. Okay. Um, in Australia anyway. And you have to watch this trailer. It looks like The Last of Us. It's like they've got an abandoned town. It must be in the States. It looks like it's got like a water tower. It looks like it looks like a fucking set from an apocalyptic video game. And you'd get a zombie? No, uh well, I don't know. Or is it like a survival? It's like a loan, okay. Yeah, but like in and they probably have to like salvage shit and it's like last people there or whatever. That's cool. I am so excited. Like, are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, that's sick. That's so cool. I mean, we'll see. It might be shit house, but right now, it sounds like a great format to me. Sounds like they're throwing a lot of money at it, so it looks expensive if if it's gonna be anything like um it's like the new Willy Wonka.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

That Willy Wonka show looks I mean expensive as well.

SPEAKER_00 3:03

You know how I feel about Netflix reality shows, but I will be watching it just to see the budget. Yeah, understandable. Um, speaking of high budget, I need to just quickly mention that I'm wearing my Art Simone merch today. Yes. Thank you, Dolph. Very generously. Very generous of Art Simone to give you the merch drop. If you're not a Patreon or Apple subscriptions member, you're like, what? Uh but we are covering Drag Race down under vs. the world over there. So go and subscribe if you want to check that out. And if you want to support the show but you don't want to throw away your precious coins to me, totally get it. Why not give me a rating or a review? That would be very lovely. And it doesn't cost you nothing. It can. You can't be very kind. Okay. Let's talk about the traders. What are your overall thoughts on season three so far?

SPEAKER_02 3:58

Um, yeah, it's really fun. I think that um Gretel is real being campus tits and really incredible.

SPEAKER_00 4:06

Well, she talked a big game about it and she fucking delivered. Yeah. That tampon dress. I think one did.

SPEAKER_02 4:12

Yeah, the tampon was amazing. I think the best thing, I just think they're all having a really good time, and I think that's really infectious to watch because a lot of reality TV you can tell when it sucks. Like, especially when it's more challenge-based shows like Run Project Runway or Drag Race, where you can just tell it's just like the pressure. The burnout is evident.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

Yeah, they're all having a lot of fun. Well, like a lot of these people haven't been on television for like 20 plus years, like Dicko and Cosima and stuff. So they're fucking they're just happy to be back on screen, I think.

SPEAKER_02 4:41

Yeah, it's um yeah, it's really cute. And I yeah, the mixed bag of people is like a I think it's well cast. There's a few people, like I don't know any of the Love Island people or things like that.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

There's a few that I don't know. There's like Claudia, Rachel, the twins. Kira, I didn't know of until I met her at the premiere event. And can I just say Kira is I think Kira and Manaki are the stars of the show.

SPEAKER_02 5:09

Yeah, Kira's first.

SPEAKER_00 5:11

They understand where the cameras are and how to capture their attention at all times.

SPEAKER_02 5:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:16

It's a messy fucking cast.

SPEAKER_02 5:19

Yes. Manaki is great television. Incredible. Knows how to make good TV.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

And she's got the teeth done, the hairs correct.

SPEAKER_02 5:28

The person that I because I've I can't believe I've what is it? Bonday Bay. Made in Bonday. Made in Bondi. Um, he hasn't had much hair time and he Lawson. I thought we'd get more from Lawson.

SPEAKER_00 5:41

We might get more from Lawson later, but you're right, he's not giving us much. But when he is on screen, it's very cute. Yeah. He's like, I wouldn't know about that because I'm a nice guy.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

Yeah, you know how I feel about his accent.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

Pretty to look at, but quiet. Let's keep that uh that mouth closed. Uh in a world first, we have an all-queer traitors turret. Do you love that?

SPEAKER_02 6:05

Yeah, that's fun. That's really good.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

It's fun. And then I feel like I accidentally manifested queer on queer violence by asking Kirby about whether that meant anything to her at the premiere.

SPEAKER_02 6:17

Did she pick up on it?

SPEAKER_00 6:18

Bitch! Well, I don't know. In my mind, I was like, surely they'll look out for each other, but nope.

SPEAKER_02 6:24

Yeah, I d I I don't love that the quiz, it's like we're shady, like you know, and it it seems like it happens. I don't know, I don't want to jump to her, but even like with Reese and stuff, it's just like if people always coming for the quiz, like we got something to hide.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

Yeah. Well, famously there was that culted moment on the US version where Michael Rappaport was like, Well, this guy knows all about lying, he's been in the closet, and everyone was like offended by that. And I was like, he's got a point. Yeah, it's not our fault that society drives us into the closets. Yeah, I guess it's just like the bias just comes out so freely in this show. Yeah, there's a lot of unconscious bias, maybe conscious bias, who knows, that presents itself in the traders. Let's start at episode one. Um, do you like the Kiwi location?

SPEAKER_02 7:18

Yeah, I think it's really beautiful. I actually it's a scandalo, but I haven't actually watched the Australian one.

SPEAKER_00 7:23

Yeah, you haven't seen the last two seasons. And do you know what? Like, look, Reddit will tell you you're not missing out.

SPEAKER_02 7:29

No, I started watching one and there was a really villainous guy, but I I need to go back and watch it. But it I can tell it looks a lot more expensive and like it looks like a car, like it's got a mana feel more than I think the other one did. Yeah, stunning. Sorry, dogs crawling all over me.

SPEAKER_00 7:45

Yes, dog. Yeah, it looks better already. Um the cars arrive at the manor. Dicko and Cosima know each other. We've got the housewives that know each other. I've gotta say, my favourite line of this first episode was Gamble going, I love seeing cows that aren't just decorative. Yeah, get it, Gams. Gamby is she's not quite sure where she is or what's going on. Yes, or who Josh is. Yeah. Uh Chrissy says she's met Madonna? What did she say? She's like, I've dealt with Princess Diana. I've met Madonna. I'm I wanted to pause the show, enter the screen, and sit down with her and be like, sorry, I have like a hundred questions about all of that.

SPEAKER_02 8:37

Yeah, I wonder what point in the career that she met. Like Madge. When did you meet Madge? But she would make sense, she's money bag Sydney. Like she would have But the the Dealt With before Princess Die, I was like, dealing with Princess Die is just like could be like they've used your venue for something she's part of. Yeah, like totally. That's why the dealt with I was like, hmm. Dealt with is even like not directly, it could be her people that wanted a yacht or something.

SPEAKER_00 9:06

Well, now that I'm best friends with Chrissy, I love Chrissy. I would like her to to answer.

SPEAKER_02 9:11

Um I want to know everything. I love Chrissy, I want to go on that boat with them.

SPEAKER_00 9:15

Oh my god, the just for fun. Just for fun. I want to go on the just for fun more than anything. Yeah. So Gretel appears in this iconic tampon look. She tells us that she's had eleven husbands and they've all mysteriously disappeared around the manor. Um, she gives the cast permission.

SPEAKER_02 9:35

Was it eleven husbands all at once? Yeah. That's very Lily. Is it Lily? It was given Lily Phillips. Lily Phillips.

SPEAKER_00 9:40

When she said 11 husbands all at once, I was like, oh.

SPEAKER_02 9:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

She's like, we're doing a gangbang.

unknown 9:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

She's at She was at a clitzend. Um Gretzky.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

But she told us she was doing character acting in the season, and I kind of was like, oh no. But then she can pull it off.

SPEAKER_02 10:01

Yeah, she's committed. She, yeah. I think I also loved the reveal of her being in the coffin. That was pretty camp and fun. Like it was amazing. I was like, because I was like, coffin's well, my granddad just died, and coffin's a fucking heavy I learned. Confirm can't be carrying a coffin recently. Yeah, I was thrown in at the deep end, and I just had three weeks of diarrhea, so you know, it wasn't the funnest time to be carrying a coffin. Um ROP granddad. Uh but yeah, I was just like, I was sh I was surprised that she was in there. I thought they were just gonna have like a key or something really like lame, but full Gretel.

SPEAKER_00 10:36

It was cool, and then they did this twist where a bowl of keys comes out and Gretel goes, Oh, bringing back memories, and Dicko's like, oh yeah. And um turns out they have to choose who they perceive to be the most virtuous in the cast. And so they immediately choose Cam, the guy from Mavs, who I've seen so I haven't seen his season, but I understand he's one of the you know how with MAFs it's like you're either like a rapist or you're like the nicest guy in the world. Yeah, he's in the nicest guy in the world category, so people love him, and he's like still with his partner from the show. Um, so Mavs is like holding on to people like him. Yeah, because it proves their point. They need to be like, look, there's this one couple. So I guess that's why everyone chose him as virtuous, right? But then didn't Shane get it? Yeah, and then they switched to Shane, and then the dilemma was, well, now Shane has to hand out these keys. There's one, oh, there's one missing. You have to get rid of the most him.

SPEAKER_02 11:43

I was like, oh I'm not sad about it because he seemed like boring television.

SPEAKER_00 11:47

Well, I thought he was gonna be really boring television, so in that setting, I was like, Thank you, Shane.

SPEAKER_02 11:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:54

Um, but some people were mad about it at the first round table, as we'll discover later. Um so they enter the manor. Gamble is wine drunk already, love, and it's everything.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Uh well, they had been up since five, so you know, she might not go on a bed yet.

SPEAKER_00 12:16

There was this bit where they're looking through like the the knick-knacks in the house, and Dicko's like, Oh, well, this guy, and there's like this muscle guy, and Dico goes, Oh, he's an intruder, and then Alvin goes, he can intrude me any day.

SPEAKER_02 12:33

Alvin.

SPEAKER_00 12:34

And I was like, Alvin, you are so real for that. And I love that they subtly let us know that he's a big old bottom, Ep One.

SPEAKER_02 12:47

Alvin gives me um Mario Kart, like the little like Cooper Troopery kind of like. He's got a Mario Kart vibe. You know what I mean? Just with those little glasses and like, yeah, like I don't know, I just can see him like great trader choice, I thought.

SPEAKER_00 13:01

Brilliant. Obviously, 10 were like keeping it in the fam with a 10 personality.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

The predictable people, I think, would have been a Reese because of Alan Carr's winning. That's what we were thinking. And he would have been good still. I think it would have been entertaining because screen time.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

But I like Reese now as like the most faithful, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:22

I think he could switch that you would choose a Reese, I think, as a thing. Oh, and I like they didn't go down the Shane Gould thing with like they did with Taylor Swift's mother-in-law.

SPEAKER_00 13:30

I literally thought it was gonna be those two, and then we were gonna be like, uh Kirby, great choice.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

Yeah, I don't know. I'm like, I mean, she's struggling. She's playing hard, like Survivor Hard, and it's uh it's too too early to be at it. She's even looking for idols instead of looking for shields.

SPEAKER_00 13:52

She was like, I'm out here looking for idols. I was like, D uh, oh my god. Uh she's kind of un Kirby is her own worst enemy in this show. She's manifested already that oh survivor players, everyone's after us. I'm like, are they?

SPEAKER_02 14:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:10

Or were you just thinking that's what was gonna happen?

SPEAKER_02 14:14

I think they do. There was um perception that like they play harder and they're like they're masters at it, because it's the only game really that's aligned with this. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

Compared to like but as we've learnt in the past, like it doesn't the skills are not transferable.

SPEAKER_02 14:27

No, and also this This is so there's so much just luck to this game.

SPEAKER_00 14:31

So much luck. But also, it doesn't fucking help that they're all walking around the house going, hey, AJ, can you come over here and let's strap it's like you guys are being so un co like uncool.

SPEAKER_02 14:43

I think also you just need to go under the radar as much as you can there. Yeah, that's the thing. I think you don't want to be a leader at all, but if you're a performer or actor, you're bit usually most likely a narcissist, so that's very hard for them to be able to.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

Well that's what Lawson's doing, and I think maybe the twins a bit as well. They're all they're doing under the radar or trying to.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

I just feel sorry, they really went for um the twin with that got a bit flushed, and I was like, it was they jump on it's so funny they're grasping at cheeks, grasping at straws for anything. I know.

SPEAKER_00 15:14

Uh, in the interviews to find out who's gonna be the traders, Tully tells Gretel she needs the money. And I was like, Oh.

SPEAKER_02 15:23

I think they all need the money, that's why they're there. They're all there except Chrissy.

SPEAKER_00 15:28

Chrissy's like, oh so good to be out of the house. Yeah, good to be away from uh I don't think any of them are like minted.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

Unless Farn and Farm Farn might be have some.

SPEAKER_00 15:41

Farn and boy, you'd hope has some of that royalty money. Yes. Yeah, I reckon Rob and Chrissy are probably the richest there.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

Dico, I don't know. It's been a while.

SPEAKER_02 15:53

Yeah. He's kind of the Simon Car of Australia.

SPEAKER_00 15:57

Yeah, the Simon Gal. Gao, is that his name? I wish he's the grumpy judge. Yeah. So the round table selection, uh, Queen Kong, friend of the pod, she knows Fabrics Girl, and she could hear a pleather fabric being squeezed by Gretel's fingers.

SPEAKER_02 16:20

Even shaming that it wasn't a real leather jacket in the saying to Kirby.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

She's like, must have been Gamble, because that fabric was synthetic.

SPEAKER_02 16:32

Um it's pretty incredible. Like I that's the first time I've seen someone guess someone correctly. Yeah, with the acoustics in the room. Yeah. I'm gonna say it is I think I think they should be playing music in that scene. But they love freaking people out with the steps. But I think music. It's like when you play the werewolf game, they do the howling at night time.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

True. On the werewolf on that like app.

SPEAKER_02 16:55

Yes. So I don't know, I think that anyway, I just it was an interesting choice to keep it side because I would think I could hear stuff. You'd be like zoning in hard.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

Will Queen like correctly identify that it was Kirby's fucking pleather ass jacket getting squeezed? Yeah, shit, yeah, the first time I think in trader history.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

Bullseye.

SPEAKER_00 17:16

I don't know, yeah. I've I've not heard of that happening. I was a bit like, oh, production error.

SPEAKER_02 17:21

Spewing.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

But anyway. Um Kira and Tully also said they wanted to be faithfuls, which I thought was interesting. Not many other I think pretty much everyone else was like, I'm here to play the traders, make me a trader. So interesting to note that those two um weren't interested. So Kirby, Alvin, and Alex are our traders. LGBTQA turret. First time. First time. We love to see it. Monaki has no chill, he's like ready to go. He's like constantly like just on a line. Yeah, he's got a lot of things. In everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

I kind of feel sorry for him because like I think if you've got people from the same show, you just have more of a vibe. You know what I mean? And I just I I'd hate to be one of those solo we'll switch he is and yeah, um, so's accent.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

Lawson.

SPEAKER_02 18:18

Lawson, do you know what I mean? Like at least even like Queen at least has Reese, like they're from the same universe, you know.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

So yeah, you're right, everyone's kind of got a partner. Well, hang on, Tully doesn't, she's the only big brother alum. Yeah, Lawson's from a show that no one watched except me, and there was me folks to watch. Did you watch some of it? Bondi? Yeah, I've watched the whole thing. You were low key in love with it. No, yes, you were.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

It was just so unrealistic. That's the thing.

SPEAKER_00 18:53

It's the show where they're like, hey, so what's going on over here? Do you want to like get a drink? Or would that cause problems with Vanessa? And then they like cut to like very long shots of them staring at each other from a distance.

SPEAKER_02 19:12

It's also that everyone around them were actors, that's what did my head in. Like there was nothing to do about them. It's all very set, set, set.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

Hey, it's Sydney, baby. Uh, all right, Dicko is on some LSD shit. Dicko is like, I am recruiting members of a cult.

SPEAKER_02 19:32

He thought he was so clever coming in.

SPEAKER_00 19:34

He's like, oh yeah, how hard loyalty, I got loyalty, I got secrecy, and I got discipline. That's so dumb. What a dickhead. Doesn't Diplo have that LSD being a seer as well? Not to be confused with Diplo's um labyrinth Cer and Diplo. That's what it looks like. Like who some of those tunes slapped.

SPEAKER_02 19:59

Yeah, but I just think it's funny. Like he works in the music engineer's company, so I've got to try to do the LSD.

SPEAKER_00 20:04

Yeah. He does not understand the assignment at all. And I get it, he thinks that like, oh well, if you get a trader, they're just gonna make another. He's trying to game the game, and to that I say, sir, fuck off.

SPEAKER_02 20:19

But putting faith like wholeheartedly into anyone is detrimental to your game because you're gonna be fucked over at the end. Exactly. Like you've got to just treat everyone as a it's a literally a trust no one. And it's watch people's behavior and just monitor it.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

And the way he's like, Oh, I know Cosima. I probably called her fat once on a show, and oh Robbie Farnum's here, yeah. Oh yeah, me and his dad have done a couple of bags.

SPEAKER_02 20:48

I just like the best way I think to put I would be like each night going into my little thing and having notes, like a little booklet with notes on everyone. I think they do that, but that's I think that's the best way, and just really be like they said this. I would just say this everyone is picking up so well on what people are saying, I think. And I'm surprised by how well people are doing that.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Yeah, you you're right. There's actually some some like good solid evidence um already. Um so Queen and Reese are onto Luke, who's the twin with the red face. Now we've discussed the twins, they are very average but very fuckable.

SPEAKER_02 21:28

Yeah, like I think because they're twins, it like ups their um value. It adds points. But I don't think you'd be like, Oh, if you got just one of them, you'd be like there's an averagely hot white man here. Yeah, like I'm just surprised they've done so well.

SPEAKER_00 21:47

It's giving the twins on turned on dirty sexy money. Yeah, but I think they're got a bit more They actually have like bucket loads of charisma compared to these twins. Yeah, I guess. These twins are like I've never seen the block famously uh Love Island Australia, uh like I've seen bits here and there, but like these guys what? They give nothing. Yeah, I I think it's an interesting choice, but hey, they must be popular. Plus it's ten just sort of like harvesting viewerships from like other networks, yeah. Which is smart. And hey, it worked. Did you see the the ratings? Yeah. Through the roof. Well done, 10. Um alright, so Reese is sus on Kirby already. He's like she's feels very activated. And then Queens also onto her because of the fabric of it all. So I'm like, fuck. Is it just the edit they're giving Kirby to make it look like she's in trouble, or do you think she's actually in trouble? I think she's in trouble 100%. Yeah. Well, I don't know, that first round table, I was expecting a lot more votes on her.

SPEAKER_02 23:01

Yeah, but Kirby's an intimidating person, so yeah, it's similar to Survivor. Like if you're gonna take a sh a sh shot, you can't miss, you know.

SPEAKER_00 23:08

And I guess they were more Sasson Shane.

SPEAKER_02 23:12

I think the first vote's just a throwaway vote to tell the truth, because you're just seeing the lay of the land and where people's alliance is, you know, and you're looking for cracks. I just know that like look at it. Shane came out hot and heavy, and look what she goes home. I just would keep my mouth shut if I was on that f that first one, don't you think? Like you play it pretty cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:33

Let's talk about this first mission. It was finding the bones.

SPEAKER_02 23:38

Pretty Av.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

You thought this one was pretty pov.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

Yeah. Yeah. It was like chicken coop with a bone in it.

SPEAKER_00 23:45

But we got griddle lions, Prince and Cher.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

Yeah, I don't know. It was giving Clint's crazy bargain costume.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

Yeah, there was the the dogs with the fur collars. It was cute one time, but if they're trying to like make that a thing, I'm gonna be like, oh no.

SPEAKER_02 24:03

Yeah, it was kind of below deck themed party.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

Oh my god, it was a below deck theme dinner dinner that would come out with.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

It's just it was a bit everything else.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

You want to like a murder mystery night where there's a room.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

In the UK, they're on like a moat, like paddling to locked boxes, and it was like literally some in the lock. And it was like a dog, like just going.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

There was a there was dog food as one of the props, yeah. Yeah. Uh Kirby's out there hunting for idols. So this is where the Monaki Kira drama starts, because he's like, Babs, that's bullshit. Your team doesn't have a shield. She's like, yeah, we fucking do.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

Yeah, I it's to fight over this is kind of hilarious and so stupid.

SPEAKER_00 24:54

Kira is perfect for this show because she actually doesn't have the capacity to like think before she speaks.

SPEAKER_02 25:00

But she's already blowing off with it, kicking off with air. She's giving 22 like Love Island, but she's 39. That's what I was a bit shocked.

SPEAKER_00 25:12

I was like, she looks great. She looks cool. Can we get her on a I don't know where she lives, but can we get her on a housewives franchise? She would be incredible.

SPEAKER_02 25:20

I thought when you just kind of glimpse her, I did think it was um the one from Dubai. Um Caroline Stanbury. They've had similar work.

SPEAKER_00 25:27

It's the haircut, it's the the bob and it's wearing it with the middle jacket as a outfit. Jacket as a dress. She's giving Caroline Stanbury, also famously a trader's uh cast member. Um yes. So we see the first conclave where the traders learn of each other's identities. Um they're all sure, they're like, ah Gretel enters, she's like, it's time to murder, and their short list is Rob, Dicko, and Queen. Now, Kirby at this point thinks Queen is like a random choice because she doesn't know that Queen is out there saying her name. Is that correct?

SPEAKER_02 26:16

No, she does know, but it she hasn't been told directly. So Queen's going around, but Queen never spoke to her. So she's like, if I kill Queen, then it won't come back to me because I didn't even know. And then that's why she does that whole catch-up.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

She goes around to everyone that she knew got tons. She goes, Was Queen saying my name? And plays stupid, so it builds the case.

SPEAKER_00 26:37

So she knew the Queen was saying her name.

SPEAKER_02 26:40

No, because yeah, Cooper Trooper told her.

SPEAKER_00 26:47

First, particularly. Because it's like people are just looking for any connection. Yeah. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02 26:53

But then this is the thing, like Queen there was more people than Queen, so she's tried to contain it, but Reese thought it, and then the two AJ and Yeah, Blue Eyes are the hot guy from Survivor, they know about it. So Henry. So she thought she was like chopping the head off the snake, but it's already like out there.

SPEAKER_00 27:12

And I think I think Kirby, this is her thing. It's like she can't help herself. She wants big moves. She's big moves.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

But I think it's a very survivor thing, and it's like, you come for me, or you gotta go.

SPEAKER_00 27:22

But it's like Kirby, it's fucking day one. But the just kill a rat, kill uh literally like kill Claudia, who no one even knows.

SPEAKER_02 27:29

But the smarter thing to do was have that in your back pocket and just slowly manipulate the narrative to work that oh no, it wasn't you know what I mean? Or wait, or have you prepared so you know that's gonna get thrown at you in a in this round table, so you know how to disarm that really quick because you've got that knowledge.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

Sure. I just think it actually has made more heat on her.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

Oh, she's putting out fires, like Kirby is like literally, yeah, woof. So the first breakfast, um, they're all walking in. Gretel's wearing a gas mask.

SPEAKER_03 28:04

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

And um the the discussion at breakfast turns to survivor players. Why was she wearing a gas mask? It's like a it's like a precursor to the toxic waste mission.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

Oh, it wasn't like it's I understand if they had to be in a guest, but it's like it's a bit of a funny one.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

I feel like there's gonna be 11 missions. Okay, and each one is like themed around one of her husbands.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

Oh or how they died or something like that. Because one was dead and one died of toxic. Okay, I understand.

SPEAKER_00 28:38

There's I believe there's 12 episodes so that would check out.

SPEAKER_02 28:42

Anyway. I wanted them to do something with um Queen Kong's picture. I kind of like how Alan Cummings smashes it and has a diva moment. I it was too like they're like Well, they did like a oh whoops. Well, grandpa pretend to have Parkinson's and drop it. And then she's like, then she picked it up, and then you like you know, she turned the you saw the back and it was from IKEA and then she's gonna be like. It was an IKEA frame. And then she's like, eh.

SPEAKER_00 29:04

Well, you didn't want them, you wanted them to like piss on Queen?

SPEAKER_02 29:08

Well, I wanted them to like I love that when they throw it in the fire, or just be a bit traumatic, like it's she's wearing the fucking guess mark, she can smash up the thing. True, you know.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

Well, it's bad enough that there's queer on queer violence in our first episode and we don't get to see Queen Kong on this show. Also, how devastating was it that she read the like note saying she's murdered in like full drag? I would have been.

SPEAKER_02 29:33

She looks so good.

SPEAKER_00 29:34

She looks amazing to walk in.

SPEAKER_02 29:37

Queen's such good TV. I'm so annoyed. So many like forgettable people. I'm like, mmm.

SPEAKER_00 29:42

But it's like, okay, we're doing this the shoot, and the shoot is you walk in and read that you're dead. But I love she's like, I gotta put for five for this because she did put her makeup on for four hours.

SPEAKER_02 29:53

Great sport, but uh girl. Yeah, we were all mad, yeah. Pissed, but it's it's in the US the drag queens always go early, too.

SPEAKER_00 30:01

It just seems to be a thing that happens, yeah. I don't know. Might be something to do with transphobia and homophobia.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

They don't like the crossies. Some because the crossy's gonna cross you at the end.

SPEAKER_00 30:13

But maybe they no one trusts a crossy. Yeah, I kind of don't. Unfortunately.

SPEAKER_02 30:18

I kinda I love my crossies, but I don't really trust them either. Like if you went to hospital, you're not gonna call a crossy to pick you up.

SPEAKER_00 30:24

Yeah, true. They'd be like, Yeah, babes, I'm on the way. Yeah, totally. I'm coming.

SPEAKER_02 30:28

Or like, here, hold my bag of cocaine, crossy, like you're not saying that again.

SPEAKER_00 30:31

True, that bag is gone.

SPEAKER_02 30:33

Yeah, here's my drink tickets, like it's never gonna Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:36

The cringe is real. Famously the podcast where we hate crossies.

SPEAKER_02 30:41

We love crossies, we just wouldn't trust them. I think that you can love something you're not trust it.

SPEAKER_00 30:47

I know, I've been married to you for fucking how long? Uh, alright. So Luke, Costumart, Henry, Reese Kira entered the breakfast, and everyone's like, ah, who's it gonna be? Who's it gonna be? They learn it's Queen. Um, Kirby is doing so much acting here, and this is where Dico turns to Kirby and he's like, Have you tried LSD? Have you done LSD back in the 70s? Was the best.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

Kirby's like, I'm fine with my mushroom stinks.

SPEAKER_00 31:24

Kirby's stirring like a witch. And she's like, Oh, that sounds great. I'd love to join.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

Smart move, so smart, perfect for her. Well, it gives her a bit of protection, and it works straight away.

SPEAKER_00 31:36

Mind you, it's not a particularly exclusive club LSD, like half of the cast is it's way too early as well.

SPEAKER_02 31:43

C runs movements, then get the collective together, like six people against how many 22 of them, whatever. It's just a bit like whatever.

SPEAKER_00 31:50

Crazy. Oh my god. Uh, all right, so we get this mission, it's the toxic waste dump. I like that it was the questions were decided by the traders. So this was their opportunity to get some evidence on the traders because like by deciphering what questions they have. I thought it was good.

SPEAKER_02 32:13

And also, I love we didn't know that had happened. I think that was a nice thing as well.

SPEAKER_00 32:17

Like that. Um Monarchy was very clever here and actually got some proper T out of it because he was voted the most drama. But he was like, hang on. Hang on, who would know that? The drama was last night. Mind you, I feel like you could just know that anyway, if you watched Aussie Shaw.

SPEAKER_02 32:43

But let's be honest, nobody there has. No one has. I don't think any of them have. Um Frida has, she just sparked. Um no, I and that was clever, and you know what the craziest thing is that the six people that were there, three of them were actually traitors, which is so crazy that yeah, ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00 33:01

Yeah, very so he's actually singled out the three of them. The other the other slip up was Kirby saying to someone us instead of them about trade. She's like, oh, it's just a chance for us to do this thing, like with the challenge, and it's like, oh so not only did she slip up with that, but Manaki's kind of figured out by a process of elimination.

SPEAKER_02 33:29

Yeah, there's more and more signs pointing. And then Kirby also has gone around and she's checked with the other survivors if they um talked about her, like if Queen was going for her, and they both lied to her face. So there's things that like people are playing hard.

SPEAKER_00 33:47

Well, it doesn't matter because LSD is activated and Daddy Dicko has decided Shane is out. Um, which I love Chrissy's like, no, my gut says she's a faithful. I'm like, Chrissy.

unknown 34:01

Correct.

SPEAKER_02 34:02

But did she vote Shane still? Yeah, she did. Did she eventually? Yeah. And she was like, she's a faithful, but shame. Um I also um Shane kind of annoyed me.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

She was a bit like a bit of a to it was kind of rude to like can we just cut to it? The bit when Shane went, um, well, winning survivors actually one of my minor achievements.

SPEAKER_02 34:25

Yeah, it was like I'm better than everyone here.

SPEAKER_00 34:27

The viewership was like, oof.

SPEAKER_02 34:30

Like, yeah, it was like that was easy and pathetic. Try swimming and saving thousands of people's lives.

SPEAKER_00 34:35

Try saving people's lives.

SPEAKER_02 34:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:38

I'm like, okay. She's very serious.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

Yeah. I'm worried that she might be a little bit Margaret Court, like Margaret Homophobe Marina adjacent. Like she just gives that vibe that she might be a bit transphobe kind of.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

Very onto Reese. She's like, Reese, oh, don't trust them.

SPEAKER_02 34:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:56

She's like that pasty little face and that is it a man, is it? She's like fucking not interested in Reese whatsoever.

SPEAKER_02 35:07

I also thought that challenge they didn't do very good. I think some of the answers were a bit off. Even I was like, oh, that's I wouldn't have picked that.

SPEAKER_00 35:14

Well, it's so early on for there to be questioned. Yeah, it's like one day. I feel like they should have saved this mission to like much later in the season, and then it could have been like questions about things that had happened throughout. Because they've just met, and then it's like, so who's the craziest, and whatever? It's like, well, all the answers to that are kind of obvious, and there's not really much that the traders can meddle with. Yeah. I don't know. I thought it was awkward.

SPEAKER_02 35:38

There was a little Meryl Streep um acting moment by the one of the traders.

SPEAKER_00 35:43

Oh, Alex Nation. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:44

Alex Nation when she knew that she wasn't gonna go down, but she goes, Oh my god, I've done Oh my god!

SPEAKER_00 35:49

Yeah, did I find it? And then it's oh my god, I'm not in the slime. Yeah. Oh, I really thought I was gonna get slimed, you guys. Yeah. She did good.

SPEAKER_02 35:58

I thought it was too much. I think that Kirby and um Alvin did way better.

SPEAKER_00 36:04

They did. I think Alex Nation is gonna do really well.

SPEAKER_02 36:07

But I think Alex, you wouldn't I wouldn't suspect her.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

I think so far she's got the least heat on her, right?

SPEAKER_02 36:12

I mean, I don't know, I just feel like Well, she's got the perfect thing because blonde blonde like pop off queen. So Kira and Kira is nightmare, and then they have pre-existing beef. And she was the she looks like her anyway, like she's the nightmare, I'm the angel. So if she's around, it keeps making and people will relate to them and go, Oh, you're so much easier to deal with. You know, so totally.

SPEAKER_00 36:33

And if there is anything awkward happening, you can kind of just blame the beef.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

Yeah, you're like, oh, she's too.

SPEAKER_00 36:39

It's just Kira, she hates me. Yeah, blah, blah, blah. Uh, at this first round table, Gretel looks beautiful in black. Loved this look. I can't remember. There's a funeral. Look, it was it was gorgeous. Shane starts. She goes, Alright, everyone, I've saved a lot of lives, so therefore I will start. So three R's. Reese, Rachel, and Rob.

SPEAKER_02 37:10

And everyone's like, it was and no, it's she's the only one thinking this as well.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

It's very loud and very wrong. Yeah. Reese is very righteous. Very ratio.

SPEAKER_02 37:19

Very right wing.

SPEAKER_00 37:19

That was checking. Those were the five R's. Reese's shook, and I love when they push back. It's like Reese was really cool.

SPEAKER_02 37:26

Reese was very cool. He's like, what did I say?

SPEAKER_00 37:29

What did I say in the car, Shane? Shane's like, Well, you said something about the traitors and that they're a thing, and that's it sounded so faithful, actually, when she was spelling it out.

SPEAKER_02 37:40

Yeah, when she made her look like a bit of a babbling boomer.

SPEAKER_00 37:44

It was giving babbling boomer.

SPEAKER_02 37:45

Yeah, she sounds like um and I love it because Reese actually only got one vote. And I think that was so clear. Like, yes. He just played it cool, and I think um I think people came to his um side also because he's so likable. Like, I think Reese would be easily one of the funnest and nicest to be totally around.

SPEAKER_00 38:08

Henry brings up Luke's red face, um the twins pile on on Shane. They're like, she's a killer, after the Cam. They really didn't like Cam, their buddy. Yeah, because it was another bro, bro ski. You guildo straight. Another straight straighty 180. Uh, and then Manaki's like, look, it's not Shane, everyone. Calm down. I liked this. I think Manaki's actually like, yeah, being silly and camp and fun, but also actually like I think Manaki's just naturally a very emotionally intelligent person and he's kind of figured some shit out.

SPEAKER_02 38:46

Yeah. When he did, he was actually made me laugh and he's just like, this person, this, and everyone, like their little minds clicked, and then he's like, I know just so stupid.

SPEAKER_00 38:54

He's like, not just a pretty face.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

Yeah, he was like really like living his best dream. Really feeling and also a really gave a fuck you to Blondie.

SPEAKER_00 39:02

Kira.

SPEAKER_02 39:03

Kira. Yes, she was seething.

SPEAKER_00 39:05

She's like, voted for Monarchy. She's unfollowed him. Uh, did she? Hang on, let's check. Oh no, she said, even though I went to someone I didn't. She's not that petty. She's a petty bitch, but she's not that petty. Well, she made that other girl cry. True. True. So Monarchy and Rachel vote for Kira. Yeah. Claudia votes for Rachel in retaliation for the accusations uh leveled against her, and Reese also votes for Rachel. Shane votes for Reese, and Reese's response going, Well, that's screen time. I was like, oh, yeah. Yeah, that is such a good term. Lawson votes for Luke, and then for Shane, it's like everyone. Luke, Cossumer, Dico, Rob, Gamble, Henry, Kirby, Alvin, and Josh all vote for Shane.

SPEAKER_02 39:56

I'm amazed that Kirby's name wasn't even mentioned.

SPEAKER_00 40:01

I'm blown away. I mean, the edit was telling us they're on to her.

SPEAKER_02 40:05

The other thing that I think is really crazy, no one actually said who would vote out Queen. Like, I don't think that was really explored in the conversations we saw as well. Like, no, like during the day, didn't like no one was like, why has someone chosen Queen who would have a thing with like it was like usually you see that as a big storyline?

SPEAKER_00 40:22

Because that's the biggest clue you have is like the choice they made to murder. You're right. It wasn't a huge amount of focus on that.

SPEAKER_02 40:28

No one was like, who had a thing with the who or who's got a connection to Queen? There was like not Queen was just like not really mentioned, too much LSD.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

The LSD was distracting. So then it comes down to um uh Kira's vote, which is for Shane. Well, it's also so obvious, like we've got two or three left, and then it's Shane sends a package, but then also Alex, AJ, Tully, Chrissy also voted for Shane. Which yeah, interesting, you're right. Chrissy did vote for Shane after being like, it's not her. So peer pressure. Yeah. I guess you don't want to stick out in that first vote being too crazy.

SPEAKER_02 41:06

I would I would be do for her, like just follow everyone.

SPEAKER_00 41:09

Now, on the way out of the round table, Rachel has like a fucking Menti B.

SPEAKER_02 41:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:16

And AJ, oh my god, like a leopard cannot change its fucking stripes.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

Hey, it was very deja vu for the people who watched So Forever. He was he was being a stage five clinger creeper to any cutesy girl. Who was it the girl he was doing it to?

SPEAKER_00 41:32

Unlike Blink twice.

SPEAKER_02 41:34

The hot Russian girl, yeah, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00 41:35

He was doing it to everyone. Yeah, but and he sits there and he like like brushes their knees, like Yeah, I'm actually a really nice guy and I really care about you. And just what can I do to make you feel more comfortable?

SPEAKER_02 41:51

Yeah. I'm listening. And then cut to his camera thing is like, she's a fucking damn bitch crying. Like it's like actually like if you're watching going, oh, this is if someone's being sincere, this is cute. I still find it creepy because you're just like because they're hot, you're panning to them. But then to flick to the flick to his confessional, he's like, I don't trust him. Like, so you're actually just doing this because you're a sick cunt.

SPEAKER_00 42:11

He's also so insincere. Like, even him like in the kitchen later with Kirby being like, uh yeah, uh like he's he's just so full of shit.

SPEAKER_02 42:23

He's a very good villain.

SPEAKER_00 42:24

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

He makes King George look like an angel.

SPEAKER_00 42:27

He truly does.

SPEAKER_02 42:30

I yeah, he's just so slimy. I just can't stand that guy.

SPEAKER_00 42:33

Rob tells Dicko after the round table that he suss on Kirby and Dicko's like, nah, I won't hear it. She's LSD strong. Stupid and Rob's boy. Okay. Um Kirby is threatened by Monaki now as well, knowing how good he is at getting this shit right and how loud he's being about it.

SPEAKER_02 42:56

So I think yeah, where their pulse is on who's to watch is very on point. Like they know who's strong. Yeah. That's amazing how quick that comes out. Like how quickly traders can identify who's this like people to watch for.

SPEAKER_00 43:10

I guess when you're the trader, that's kind of all you're watching for.

SPEAKER_02 43:14

Because and then Well, it's pretty obvious if someone keeps coming going, what did that buh by? You're like, oh, you're really like rallying. That's why I just think you've got to play it cool for a little bit. A little bit.

SPEAKER_00 43:23

But people just discast. No, it's such a mess. In the cut turret, they discuss Monarchy, like, oh, dog with a bone. And they also discuss LSD, and Kirby's like, look, I'm in. So Yeah, she doesn't want to fuck that. Which makes me annoy annoyed because I think Dicko's gonna be around for ages. I don't know, I think they're gonna murder Dico. But he keeps it. He keeps that LSD together. But at the end, well, that's I think that's what they want to break up because right at the end of it, they're like, let's cause some fucking chaos. I would miss that. I hope so. It would it would really like that's cutting the head off the snake, which Kirby loves to do that.

SPEAKER_02 44:05

But I think Johnny, little Johnny Farner. Um he would I think because he was voted the smartest, they'll aim for that too. And he represents such he represents something different to all of them. I don't know. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 44:19

A non-reality star.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

Well, yeah, totally. But you know what I mean? Like he's not a hat like a he comes from a different world and he's got a different view. Like you can see, he's a bit about, so he can watch and he's not playing the same.

SPEAKER_00 44:30

No, I think it's so so the short list is Diko, Monarchy, and Rob. They're not gonna murder Monarchy. That's so obvious. Don't you like but setting up? He's just named all three of them.

SPEAKER_02 44:41

But if you Yeah, but if you murder Monarchy it also they might think it's Blondie. But that's so too, that's too obvious.

SPEAKER_00 44:49

If Kirby murders Monarchy second after murdering Queen, I'll just be like, you murdering all your fellow queer brown sisters. Yes. Like, sorry? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's Dico. I don't think she will. Dico was also on their short list the first time. So that's why I'm like But so was Rob. Oh true. God, they're really they're they're they're they're gun ho on those. Yeah. Kirby is very much in a leadership position in the turret. She just can't help herself. She's always like Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:25

She's big clit energy.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

She has huge clit energy in the turret.

SPEAKER_02 45:29

She's not actually wearing a hood, she's just got her giant clitoris.

SPEAKER_00 45:35

Fucking hell. Happy with yourself with that one?

SPEAKER_02 45:40

I just I just had the image of her just pulling over her giant hood. The clitoral hood is very important.

SPEAKER_00 45:47

The clitoral hood is important, yeah. And it needs to be discussed more on podcasts. Yeah. Alright, so your money's on Rob for the murder.

SPEAKER_02 45:59

I think they might do Rob. Okay. Oh, or LSD. I don't know. I just think Kirby will fight because that's it as something she can access, and she loves having that intel. So I think it's Rob.

SPEAKER_00 46:12

Alright. We'll see. I think it's gonna be different.

SPEAKER_02 46:14

And isn't Rob's a part of LSD, so it still does it, but it's not the head, but not the rat hand.

SPEAKER_00 46:18

Oh my god, and survivor people love that. They love like not taking out the head straight away, but like the rat hand man. Yeah, you're right. You could be right. I'm still thinking it's Dico, only because of the way they were like, we're gonna really fuck shit up. Yeah. But yeah. Great show.

SPEAKER_02 46:34

Yeah, it's good. I just I want more, and also I yeah, like I don't know. We you just want to tune this because it's such it's the best. It's a fingible show. But it's the formula, it's just like the cliffhanger, and you're like, already you want to know who gets murdered next. Like, you know, when I watch it back, if it's already been aid, you're like, I just quickly watch the first five minutes of the next episode just before I go home.

SPEAKER_00 46:52

Oh, yeah, because it's but but at least you're satisfied because there's banishments and murders throughout. It's not like the new fucking Project Runway. Oh my god, Hulu, what are you doing? They literally get to the end of the episode of Project Runway now, and they're like, and designers, the person going home is and then it's like oh that's it's beyond infuriating. Yeah, that's silly. Silly. Well, darling, thank you very much for stepping in. This is my beautiful host today.

SPEAKER_02 47:25

Now I can go eat El Jana.

SPEAKER_00 47:27

Oh, beautiful, your favourite. Yeah, not a sponsored post. No, no, alright. I'll see you soon, honey. Bye bye.