Live Laugh Longleat (w/ Stephen Wakefield)

Sexy Baby Wakefield is back to chat about British HIGH SOCIETY DARRLING. And I mean Ladies of London, Vanderpump Villa, Real Housewives and more. Is claiming someone doesn't 'get' British humour a gaslighting exercise? Or do these snowflake yanks need to get their shit together? The dolls get geopolitical (well, kinda) and discuss the cast of our new fave show Ladies of London at length. 

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Transcript

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This podcast was produced on the land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation. Welcome to Australia!

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So sorry about this. Oh my god.

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Oh I'm so sorry about this. Oh my god. Every time I hear that, I'm so triggered.

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It's the best lead into a podcast. Oh, I'm so sorry. Oh my god, I'm not sure. What a mess. I'm so sorry. I'm just flummoxed. It's really foreshadowing for what you're about to hear, which is an hour of people just rambling.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Well, let's go. And you can get over it, Michelle. UK hun.

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I'm Kay. I'm Kay. Yeah. UK hun.

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Yeah. Yeah. I've had some health issues of late. Oh, so just little annoying things. Okay. And now I feel like I'm I'm like, surely next week I'm like, Is it a thing?

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You've been too well behaved. 100%. And so it's because I haven't been partying. I haven't been going, that's always what happens. Your immune system is actually too clear. It's not carrying all the bugs.

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You're like, let me write you a prescription. You have lunch. One fun party night out at the peel.

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Doctor's honors.

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Take it immediately. Let's go.

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Yeah, alright.

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Oh my god, Munchausen. Munchausen by proxy. Fuck me. Um alright. So we're here today to talk about British humour, darling. You don't understand! You don't you don't get it. Well, actually, firstly. Alright, talk to me. Housewives. Are you up to date with Bev Hills for your? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:20

Look, I had it on the background. I didn't pay attention to too much, but the best part It is background view. Yeah, and I think that's where Beverly Hills wants to be. Yeah. They don't really have much drama.

SPEAKER_02 2:33

They just like to have nice clothes and well, let's be real, like we haven't actually like learnt anything real about a cast member for like a decade. Richards was the last one.

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That we knew where we actually had a real person.

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A real person that exposed something about themselves that they didn't otherwise want to have exposed without suing.

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Yeah. And now it's like I like Carl Richards is now the longest running housewife continuously on a season of Housewives.

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And I know her face when Andy told her that as well, she was just like, I wanted to slap her so hard.

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But do you know what was really good? So you know, um, Christopher Hall, uh content creator who does like the kind of background singing without the mic.

SPEAKER_02 3:16

Um that sounds like hell, but sure. Yeah, but they can't. I'm sure they have a billion followers.

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They do because it's kind of mime as a backup singer, but it they've blown up so much that they actually get famous singers in their videos to be in the front. Like anyway, so they predicted what Andy was going to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, predicted what Andy was going to say in the reunion and then he nearly was all correct. Wow. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

I think I saw that clip of like him doing what Andy was gonna say. Incredible.

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Um, and I was like, that's it's just so predictable that we can even predict Andy now. Like everything.

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I mean, like I want to call him a genius, but also is it that hard?

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No, he's got a very good job.

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Great job.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I'm like, oh punish.

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Sometimes he doesn't want to be there though, and you can tell. Yeah, there are certain casts where he's like, ooh, we're really doing this again. I think that last New Jersey one, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:18

He was really when what was the um franchise he walked off?

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Was it like was that OC? I want to say no, I think it was Salt Lake. It was all like when they just wouldn't fucking stop talking over each other.

SPEAKER_01 4:30

Yeah, because also I'm like, I they have to not waste his time because they're wasting everyone else's time. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:39

Okay. I don't know. I'm like there, I thought this season did actually like from just like a pure like entertainment value thing. It started off kind of whatever, and then it actually got really entertaining towards the end. Yeah, because um, I love activated Dorite. Like Dorite just calling everyone a cunt. I could watch that like just on loops. It's great.

SPEAKER_01 5:01

But also But there's all there's only so much of one person calling everyone a cunt before they start everyone else turning around and going, actually, you're the cunt, you're the common denominator in the group.

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You are I'm most certainly not in defense of Dorite, she's curse.

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And also I'm like, like, I don't care about her marriage. I don't care about her.

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But she's finally unburdened.

SPEAKER_01 5:23

Well, is she? Because I heard the book is cancelled. Oh not enough pre-sales. So she is only she would launch the cover and not having a book.

SPEAKER_02 5:34

Yeah. Yeah. That is she should have just had that's giving who's the publisher.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

Uh-huh. They should have had a partnership with like Marlboro Lights or something, and just had like, alright, she's famous for Siggies and calling people a cunt. We don't care about you being unburdened. Tell us, give us a advertise cigarettes.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

In the UK in the US?

SPEAKER_01 5:49

In the US. No. So where are we? We're not. But um, but I was like, it's it should be like a Lisa Rinner book, but she can't because she's not Lisa Fucking Rinner.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

These lips were made for lips and Darit's lips are made for talking bullshit, let's be honest. Yeah. Like not it, not a line of that book is gonna be of value. I can already tell you.

SPEAKER_01 6:11

And do you remember when she was like sitting at next to her pool and she was like typing and then just went, um, by Dorite Kensley. I mean Dorite, whatever her maiden name is the end.

SPEAKER_02 6:22

Darit Brown. No, that was Sutton Brown. Sutton Brown. Sutton Brown. Sutton Brown, also like whatever at this point. I again, I only like her when she's agitated and she like wasn't that agitated this year.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

It's funny, I used to really dislike Sutton. And you remember the season where she's rolling her face with the roller? I was like, get off the screen. That was like peak. And I'm like, actually, bring that woman back. You're so right. We didn't know what we had. Boring.

SPEAKER_02 6:48

Yeah, ugly leather pants was peak. Sub.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That was great. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

Jealous of what? Ugly leather pants. Like, so good. Just watching her like that, like trying to fit in with these like stunning girlies. Yeah. She's like trying to keep up and stuff. Yes. I have like a sick sense of satisfaction watching the show. Totally. And I guess we've got Amanda Francis now, who's like was the punching bag of the season. No. But all even then, like, I don't know, I I hate her so far in this arena, like, she's kind of winning.

SPEAKER_01 7:20

Well, because it's which I hate. But do you know she's been able to keep her cool in every altercation? She doesn't raise her voice, she doesn't run off, except for on the anniversary of her child dying. True. But she's like, It doesn't make her likable though.

SPEAKER_02 7:32

But you're right, but like technically for the fans, it just like like people that like whim.

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Yeah.

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She's doing well.

SPEAKER_01 7:39

Yeah, she's doing really well. I think I have this hot take, and I've already told you this, but the hot take is I think that everyone should have to do three seasons minimum. Oh because I'm like, it is like too much. Yeah, and you've you that and Bravo has to stick out for three seasons of your contract. Oh my god and I'm like, it would be so much better. We'd get so much more we'd have Carlton Jebia for three seasons.

SPEAKER_02 8:03

True. So no one season wonders. No one season wonders. So then, like like Monica Garcia would have had to have stuck around. Yeah. But then but it's hard when they refuse to film with each other. I know. Because that's what's happening like with all the Australian franchises. It's like they can't keep doing them because I don't want to fucking film with each other. Exactly. So it can kill it, maybe. I don't well I I I like the thought behind that.

SPEAKER_01 8:27

The one season thing, it's like all this shit happens and the people just disappear. Yeah. And it's like then we get another new person, another new person, another new person.

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It's like I don't want to meet anyone new.

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I actually am done with the new thing.

SPEAKER_02 8:39

Um speaking of, have you watched Rhode Island?

SPEAKER_01 8:42

No, because I'm not sold. I can't differentiate between any of the women. They all look exactly the same. And they all look like what um oh my god, what's her name? From um she was in the traitors uh oh god. She's from Sambury, no.

SPEAKER_02 9:06

No, no, no. Um Dolores Dolores. Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:09

I wouldn't I would just say um Doritas and then I was like Dolores.

SPEAKER_02 9:13

Get this Dolores is even in an episode of it, and you're like, huh!

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And the woman that even claims to be like the knockoff Dolores is there, and they're both in shot together, and I was like, Oh they're trying no because they're trying to give Rhode Island validity, authenticity, and it's like the reason my salt like city works so much is because none of them are part of any other world. They're like cuckoo cocoa pop's like next level.

SPEAKER_02 9:38

Yeah, we've we've already seen you're right, we've already seen it. It it's reheated uh jersey nachos. Yes, and also they all look the same, and then also if you yeah, if you're bringing in one kind of husband, it's not a good time. Mind you, the things I do like about it are there's a hot husband, this big, thick, chunky man that I'm just like, ooh, he's very hot. Okay, and they say hoa a lot. They're like, she's a hoa. And then they even one of them last week was like, You're allowed to say hoa, because it sounds so good. It's we're in Rhode Island, we say hoa. That that I'm gonna I'm telling about that. That is kind of good, but it's full background for me. Yeah, and then because it's background, I'm not like and this is my fault. Yeah, I'm not meeting these people properly, yeah. Except for when something exciting happens and I'm like, oop.

SPEAKER_01 10:27

Yeah, yeah, look, that's yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:30

Weird timing. Like they put it out now when, like, I don't know, Lana's just come back, and Philly Hill's about to finish weird timing. Sure.

SPEAKER_01 10:42

I'm not sure. I'll wait till in like my next next time I get COVID and I need a week off, and I will just watch it in a week because I'll be like, has anyone seen this show? Yeah, you'll be like, that husband, right? And then I'll be like, girl. Get over it. It's like I just started watching um love story.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

Oh, yeah, yeah. I need I haven't done that either. It's been so far amazing. It's like Carol Radziel in that or something. No, they actually left her out.

SPEAKER_01 11:06

Oh, she's not a part of the show, but they refer to uh her like her husband, JFK Jr.'s cousin is dramatically.

SPEAKER_02 11:15

JFK Jr. is the most satisfying phrase to say.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

JF JFK Jr. Yes, like very an actor. There's a scene, obviously, you would have seen it in the club shower room with a massive bulge. It's like hot. But the best part of it is actually the soundtrack. Oh, it is the greatest soundtrack I've ever had.

SPEAKER_02 11:34

It's not Ryan Murphy, is it? Because it feels it feels like it's in his world, but it's directed and written by other people.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

Fuck. Which I think a lot of his stuff that's now. Yeah, yeah. Um, there's no witches in it.

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He does he does just like slap his name on things weirdly, and it's like, okay. Yeah.

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But he just walks around production company. Ah, okay. Yeah. Um, but the soundtrack is incredible. It's like massive attack and um all the girls.

SPEAKER_02 12:02

We need to talk about fucking, and this is not this is not sponsored post, but the Hey You Sydney Fan Fest. Actually, you'll it'll be very clear that it's not a sponsored post shortly when we rip into this. But uh who have they announced? I need to get it up. So it's like Captain Jason, which I was like, okay, yep. We got Captain Jason, we've got Cynthia.

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Cynthia amazing. I'm there, I love 50 Cynth.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

Uh Craig from Summoner, Saz, Flop, Meredith Marks.

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And you know she's gonna be DJ. She's gonna be DJane of the.

SPEAKER_02 12:40

Oh no, they can't afford that. They can't afford a 5k record.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

Oh, for sure. If they got Erica Jane to do a fucking tour, then you know that in the dark is like got Meredith on their sleeve.

SPEAKER_02 12:52

EJ at the reunion being like, I've just come back from Australia.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

Yeah, bitch. And the I was there. It was the worst. And it was the worst thing. Worst DJ set I've ever seen. And to the point where she said, Wake up, Sydney, and everyone kind of went, did it like this and went, Why? Play better music. Like your poop. Like it was bad. Yeah bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. No.

SPEAKER_02 13:15

So Marilyn Marks, that's that's probably the biggest get. Then this is where it gets interesting. Juliet Mayhew.

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Disgusting.

SPEAKER_02 13:22

What the fuck? Obviously, she was a cheap get.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

Yeah, and she's probably like already in a sort of like visiting fam. Yeah. It's yeah, I don't I couldn't I don't like her. No.

SPEAKER_02 13:36

Well, I thought she was very entertaining on um Real House was in London, which we're gonna talk about in a little bit. Yeah, but you've just recently told me that she's um a friend of Hollyver Lance.

SPEAKER_01 13:47

Her pinned her like one pinned post from like 2023 is with her and Hollyver Lance at a film premiere of child trafficking, a film about it, about like we're saving God's children, and it's like Hollywood Lance is yeah, oh yeah, yuck, yuck, yuck. So's honey bumper. No, from me.

SPEAKER_02 14:11

Yeah, I do hope she's back. They're filming that again, right? Or they have filmed that again. Yeah, I think they're just finished.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

Yeah, I saw I saw Panthea was asked, like, who was the most chaotic uh who is the most chaotic on the show? And she said, I think herself. We love it.

SPEAKER_02 14:27

No, I'm really looking forward to that. Yeah, me too. But of course it was really fun, it was great. And this is the this is the thing that's shitting me at the moment with Ladies of London, is that and it's fucking amazing. Yeah, but people are kind of like having this revisionist history where they're like, oh, why is this so much better than Ladies of London? I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. They're both good. Like two things both two things can be fucking true.

SPEAKER_01 14:48

Yeah, two things two things can be good at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 14:50

Yeah, but I see why you would want to compare them because they are doing the same thing, yes, and they've poached cast members from each other, whatever. But um, yeah, I don't know. Like, do we not remember fucking what's her name? Amanda Cronin, your your fame. Let's go back back to Paddington.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

I can't wait. Friday comes out. I'm gonna be on a single drop of I'm gonna be the first person to download it. I'm gonna be the first person to be singing to it. I love it. Good. I knew Amanda Cronin.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

Do we not remember how fucking iconic she was?

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Yeah, she's the best.

SPEAKER_02 15:25

Like, don't take that away. Yes, we've got fucking Kimmy and Martha and Mark.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

I mean, wait till they start dropping singles.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

Yeah, please. Kimmy single, be like blunt to blunt, Kamara.

SPEAKER_01 15:38

Fill up Muggler. I love drinking at least three drinks. You're a bitch. I'm down with that. You're a fucking. I love her. I yeah. She has become like truly the my most favourite person on TV. I love her.

SPEAKER_02 15:53

Uh all right, so who else is coming? Dorinda Medley is fucking huge.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

Huge, huge. She'll DJ. You reckon? Yeah. She is DJing. She's probably and she turns the music down and then has her like um voice recordings of like Cleop! And then the crowd all does it with her. I know. It's done.

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Fuck.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

Yeah, it's kind of fun. That'll be fun with the Dorinda.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

That's great. So that means in the last sort of 12 months, we've had the Countess EJ, Sonia Morgan, is coming. Coming June, I think. June as well, yeah. Oh, not on this. And then Dorinda, great.

SPEAKER_01 16:30

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 16:31

Love that. And then Alexia Napola.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

Sonia's incredible. Sonia's probably not included because she's now with rival Bravo Rival E for the Golden Line.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

Of course, the Golden. Isn't Dorinda on that?

SPEAKER_01 16:42

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:43

Oh yeah, no, you're right.

SPEAKER_01 16:44

I don't think hey you give a fuck.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

Because they're not, they only have just produced the one show. They're not really like that's you know what I mean. No, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 16:52

I thought I was uncovering tea, but I'm just an idiot.

SPEAKER_02 16:55

A conspiracy theorem. Dumb. I'm just a dumb little baby.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

Put your tin four hats on, girls.

SPEAKER_02 17:02

Alexia, Napola, incredible. Do you watch from Miami?

SPEAKER_01 17:05

I I'm a late I watched the last two seasons and I don't get very much of it. Oh, okay. So I Because everyone's got the history and all the stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

See, I I joined in the new version. Yeah. Which so there's three seasons of that. Yeah. And and I didn't go back. And that was all. That was oh that's all I needed. Like I just jumped in there and it was like and now I feel like like I'm not not being like hyperbolic. It's my favourite after Salt Lake. Is it really? For sure. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. That and Potomac. Those three, those three are kind of my like training dark. Potomac and Salt Lake. I mean of things that are on. I know I know um I know Miami's been paused, but I'm refusing to believe that.

SPEAKER_01 17:55

They're all gonna be on Ultimate Girls Trip 20 year bus girls gone.

SPEAKER_02 18:00

Sprinter van across the country, yeah. Yeah. And then Shep, which again I'm like, eh. So yeah. That's um Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

Uh Southern Chance. Are they or are they announcing any more? Is it just I fucking hope so?

SPEAKER_02 18:16

I reckon that's it.

SPEAKER_01 18:17

Because I'm like, what what is this gonna be? Like a panel with all of them, and you go for 40 minutes and see them chattering. Oh, they won't all be together. They'll be or they'll do like they'll break off and they'll have interviews with Joel Casey and they'll milk it. Ricky Le not Ricky Latin.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

It'll be Joel Casey, um Chrissy Swan, Queen Kong. Oh, I'm sure these are all the people that were at uh Marty Hoopla. Yeah, which was like sponsored by Hey U. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I mean, look, will I be there? No, but it's due to a scheduling conflict. Not because I don't love you, Hey. I would absolutely accept free tickets and a a panel moderation spot. Yeah. Um if I was available, but I would not be available. Yeah. Are you gonna go?

SPEAKER_01 19:01

When is it?

SPEAKER_02 19:02

Where are where are you going? June, some notes in August. Um, I'm gonna be in Sri Lanka, darling.

SPEAKER_01 19:07

Oh, here we go. Sri Lanka.

SPEAKER_02 19:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:09

Always traveling.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 19:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:12

Isn't that when it is?

SPEAKER_01 19:13

I actually can't remember. I did look at it and then I just didn't pay attention to any of the details. Yeah, 15th of August. Yeah. Oh, day before my birthday. I'm not just gonna say across your bottle. Um well hey, you if you want to send me up for a birthday, okay.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

Yeah, yeah. Sure, after we've just tore it apart about your event. I th I'm sure it's gonna be great. Yeah. Honestly, I would buy the ticket alone for uh Captain Jason. Yeah, well, is that meet and greets there? I don't know. I would need to be restrained around that man.

SPEAKER_01 19:42

Well, yeah. Yeah. Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 19:47

Andrew, that's a good one. Okay, well the other thing is you see um tan announced Big Brother is back this year.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

Which I was like, I saw like the teaser picture of the girl with the what a ladder in the air or something? Yeah. Um and I was like, okay. I didn't I didn't really get with it last with the reboot.

SPEAKER_02 20:05

I'm so torn and Limbrillia, like, uh, because it's just like the best show ever when it's good. Yeah. And then when it's bad, it's actually like so unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

What about if people don't get voted out and they all just earn lots of money in it? And the more people like you, the more money you get. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 20:23

That would be good.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

You know that. That's a good little twist. Because sometimes people go out and it's like you don't want them to be.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

They always get rid of the anyone controversial, and then we like lose the story.

SPEAKER_01 20:32

And then you lose the fun, and then you start with um some boring person. I know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:38

Should we get stuck into some ladies of long leaps? LOL, let's go. And before we do, should we pour ourselves? Oh, yeah, that's a tea.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

I'll be mum, shall I?

SPEAKER_02 20:48

It's British tea, you wouldn't understand. Thank you. Oh, delightful. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

Oh darling.

SPEAKER_02 21:02

I actually was watching Vanderpump Villa season three before you came over.

SPEAKER_01 21:07

Because I'm a Vanderpump Villa.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

I mean, look, I still kind of do, but these shows uh she fucking phones it in, man. Yeah. Her like a nephew is on it. And then Eck and Sue rocks up and starky. This season three is a hot mess. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

They've gone and it's kind of like a below deck, but in a villa.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

So what they've done is they've combined below deck with Villa Vibes, which we'll get into shortly, but yeah, that the the the whole idea of like an English mansion is like trending so hard right now. I feel like post Saltburn, everything is like in a in a a property.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

We need an estate, Dylan. An estate.

SPEAKER_02 21:53

That's the thing. We want an estate. It's very that so they've put it in the first two seasons were in other parts of Europe. It was like a French one, like a French one, and now they're like, It's Lisa's hermland, and it's like in a fucking In London for 30 years. Yeah, I'm like, she's the most LA fucking coke. Yeah, exactly. And then she opened a restaurant in Vegas, and I was like, now that's correct. Yeah. That's where she belongs.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Yeah. Hot on the heels of the blue five.

SPEAKER_02 22:21

But to Americans, all English people are like royalty. Yeah, of course. They're like, oh my god, how sophisticated.

SPEAKER_01 22:29

Until you insult their outfits.

SPEAKER_02 22:32

And then it's all over. But yeah, so so what they've done is with Manapan Villa is they've invited reality TV trash to stay in the villa, but like the house of villains, below deck style. Exactly. And then all of the staff are basically prostitutes that try their best to fuck the guests. Um, and then there's like a 50k reward for like the best crew member at the end.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

It's like so it's also a competition.

SPEAKER_02 23:01

Yeah. And they're like, I'm gonna get that 50k.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

I feel like that's a lot of information you've just downloaded on me, and I don't know what actually to hold on to.

SPEAKER_02 23:09

Hulu is like insane. Fucking insane, man. They've there's no rules over there, they're just doing whatever they want. A season comes out like every month, and it all comes out at once, which is so unfair.

SPEAKER_01 23:21

Hang on, the whole season comes out at once.

SPEAKER_02 23:22

That's the all of their shows. Mormon Wives is the same, like 10 episodes that just come out bang on one day. And you're like, how am I supposed to guzzle that down?

SPEAKER_01 23:33

Well, the problem is I will.

SPEAKER_02 23:36

Well, that's the thing, people people love it, and they're wow. But they've got like um some drag race people on, and they've got as guests, not competitors. Like random as fuck like people from other reality shows, okay. Megan Chelsea people who are it's so weird. Yeah, and Starsi's there just occasionally. Okay. It's sort of tough.

SPEAKER_01 24:06

It's kind of like I'm like, in my mind, it's like a scrapbook of failed reality TV stars. You know, it's like we just go, Oh, I've just yeah, you used to like them 15 years ago.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

And it's also like a theater show into the big one, which is the Mormon Wives. Yes. Because they're always going there and fucking the stuff.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

Are they? Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

All right. Welcome to the Hulu Cinematic Universe. Yeah, really. You're like, huh.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

It's yeah, it look at something. I'm like, maybe do I do I have fatigue? Am I fatigued? I must. Yeah. I'm like, I'm just thinking, like, oh god, Heather Gay is gonna open a ski chalet and just do this. Honestly.

SPEAKER_02 24:52

Well, yeah, if she was smart, she would.

SPEAKER_01 24:54

Yeah, I'm like, and yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:55

No, but it's not nothing compared to Long Leat, darling.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

Long lit.

SPEAKER_02 25:01

Fucking long this show, can I say? Oh, I forgot to bring my pet magpie. Oh Hecate.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Put your goggles on. It's so good. God, it's good. It's like just watching like, what is it, like seven bonkers people be bonkers, which is what it should be. And Ladies of London was always like that. It was. Do you know what?

SPEAKER_02 25:21

If this is trending now, this like British high society shit, which gives me hives, but I'll deal. Yeah. We should bring back letter to lady. No, I think so too. Don't you think? And it's time. And they should go to Micah's Micah should be the fucking she could be the bloody host. The host. She's too nice, though.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

I know.

SPEAKER_02 25:43

They need like a a a tyrant, a trench ball.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

They do need a trench ball.

SPEAKER_02 25:48

Aunt Lydia and Aunt too far.

SPEAKER_01 25:52

Not far enough. That's fantastic. I think it's a great idea. Um Ladies of London is really just hitting the spot in the same way that Salt Lake does because everyone is so bonkers. Yeah. But they're all likable. Even though they're being annoying, they're likable. And that's that I think is a really good, great casting for our Ladies of London. They've hit it out of the park.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

And I think the introduction of a fag um Mark Francis. Mark Francis was perfect. Obviously, it was someone who no stranger to reality television. The screen test had been done.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

Yes. And has and has relationships with the cast. So I'm like, But it's good. Yeah. I'm like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:40

Because I don't know about putting gay men on Housewives, for example, but this is like a good this is like a good test for the always satellite people, you know.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

She shish she holding.

SPEAKER_02 26:52

The handbags where Arby, like all of the people.

SPEAKER_01 26:57

Exactly. Mikey Minden. You know, like when they pop in and then they pop out.

SPEAKER_02 27:01

Don't see much of him anymore. Not now. Marco Marco.

SPEAKER_01 27:06

No.

SPEAKER_02 27:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

Arve. They see they always.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

You know, they always have someone that's around like yassing them and then Yassing them and gassing them.

SPEAKER_02 27:17

Yeah. Seriously.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

And then now, yeah, and then I think having Mark Francis on the show is it is refreshing. It's nice to see something new. And it is. He is really loud and really annoying. He actually has he has a Lisa Rinner quality about him. In this whenever he enters a room, he goes, Oh, leaves. I love leaves.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

It's another kick type thing, isn't it? Like, if I'm loud, no one will and question me or something.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

Yeah, or it's like what is I I'm controlling the space because I'm in here pointing out the space. When he something like that.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

There was one scene I can't remember who it was with early on in the season where someone walks into a restaurant that he's waiting at. He gets up and struts across the room like it's his house. And I was like, what are you doing? But I in that moment I was like, this tells me a lot about this gentleman.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

Yeah. It's Mark Francis's world, and we all just live in it.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

Don't we, John?

SPEAKER_01 28:20

And so do those ladies of London. Shall we get into the ladies? Yeah, let's go.

SPEAKER_02 28:24

I thought we could start with Emma. Our Lady of Long Leads.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

Our Lady of Long Lee. I didn't know how to take her at the start because I thought, is this a bit like goop goes to Long Leap kind of thing where it's like, see, I ride a bike and I run triathlons and I'm healthy and I have things.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

She is very put together, she's very like brand aware. Yes. I did love her kind of dig at the start to like Megan Markle, basically being like, you think you're the first person of colour in royal in high society, bitch mover. But like I did love that. And her whole energy. But and again, I thought it was all kind of a bit bullshit as well. But then the more time goes on, the more I'm like, oh Freyda, chill out. I know. There's a wild animal on the looping. Just like a long knee. But yeah. Actually, you think she's legit?

SPEAKER_01 29:20

Yeah, and I actually really enjoy how casual she is. Even in her confession, she's just like cash to the max. Like her vibe is just like, well, yeah. But it's also a bit slice.

SPEAKER_02 29:35

Or something. Yeah. I know. Sure. I'm not gonna take that away from you.

SPEAKER_01 29:38

The r the Rothschild's giraffes. Ew.

SPEAKER_02 29:42

Imagine just like that's your fucking life. Like that you don't really need to work. You don't actually work, but like you just kind of have this presence. You busy yourself. It's stupid.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:53

Plus, she's running a fucking theme park.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:56

That is actually not glamorous at all.

SPEAKER_01 30:00

No, but I did laugh like when um Mark Francis was making fun of her for um like what was it, like breeding koalas?

SPEAKER_02 30:09

I feel like we have a eucalyptus farm. I'm like a farm. You mean you planted some fucking gum trees? When they called it a eucalyptus farm, I did giggle. Like, what are you talking about? So funny. A farm.

SPEAKER_01 30:22

Yeah. But I I like that. And I enjoy I enjoy Mark Francis and Emma's relationship. I think they genuinely are friends, even though he he like camps up and acts so much louder when she's around. Yes. But it's like she likes to be entertained and he likes to entertain.

SPEAKER_02 30:41

And he obviously likes orbiting around her because she's the brightest shining star. And gives him heats of authenticity and how he's always like, oh, I I I'm I'm here all the time. I've been lost in this maze so many times. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

It's like we get it. When he your friend when he couldn't get out of the maze after having a fight, laugh. That was actually really good. Incredible.

SPEAKER_02 31:03

Uh we're talking about Martha and co-star Hecate.

SPEAKER_01 31:08

Martha's uh brilliant. She's like an old Hollywood actor that's time traveled, time traveled to now, and is just so fantastic and so like unaware of anything. I like genuinely felt concerned when she said that she gave her keys to a stranger in the park who was going to fix her house. That was a stranger.

SPEAKER_02 31:34

Wow. Again, like the mark bit where he got up in the restaurant and ran across the room. I was like, that tells me everything I need to know about Martha. Yeah. She's so trusting and she just like sees the best in everyone, but also like cotton wool vibes. And yeah. None of these women are very straight smart, let's be honest. Except Kimmy, who's like seen some shit in Haiti.

SPEAKER_01 31:54

Kimmy's the one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But Martha, like she's fantastic and she's you know styled to perfection. She's she's good. The vibe.

SPEAKER_02 32:03

Just having a fucking magpie in your house, man. Like what? I know a pet magpie. And it's again to Australians, that's like, what are you doing? It's really fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:15

Mind you, it doesn't look like the ones around here. It's very like. Is it? Oh, they have those. Oh, okay, right. Hence why that makes it. I think is it an English magpie? Must be. It's like a little bit. It looked cute. It wasn't like no, no, my god.

SPEAKER_01 32:30

Yeah. No. Oh, Kimmy. Kimmy is the star of the show. You're a real bitch. I love her. I love how gin-soaked she is. I love how drunk she is. She's a drunk drunk. I love how like her eyebrows are drawn on up to her eyebrows, and the drunker she gets, the more her they disappear into her hairline. She's amazing. It's like she's she's like in the Martha time warp thing where she's like you she's from some other era. Yeah. But somehow is here. She loves a top hat with a veil. We love that.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

She's lived a thousand lives as well. Yeah. The vocabulary is incredible. Very incredible. And she was like making that omelet and she was like, Oh, we gotta make it bovoles. Oh, yes. And then they always bring up like explanations for us playing along at home. So good. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 33:21

It's so funny. I love it. And some of them are like like fish and chips, and fish and chips pops up, and it's like sometimes I'm like, okay, America.

SPEAKER_02 33:29

Like we did chips is a dish, uh, kind of like a hamburger, but instead of the hamburger just fitted fits a couple of things.

SPEAKER_01 33:36

And then the thing follows it going, batter is this thing. Yeah, sometimes it is a bit like it's like, come on, you're f like whatever. Whatever. Whatever. But it does add to the charm of it.

SPEAKER_02 33:52

Oh, I want to get like shit faced with her. I want to drink so much Blanc de Blanc.

SPEAKER_01 33:56

I think you could just have it absolutely wild night, and I think she'd she'd drink like a sailor, like she'd be the last one standing and still going, Come on, let's go for more. And everyone'd be like throwing up dead, going to the emergency room shop. Yeah, one more in the hot in the ambulance on the way.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

Very rarely on these shows do I actually want to meet the people, and she's one where I'm like, I would want to know you.

SPEAKER_01 34:19

Me, yeah, she's fantastic. Uh Mika.

SPEAKER_02 34:25

There's so many M names.

SPEAKER_01 34:27

They're all M's, and it's it like takes me a minute to get. Yeah. Mika, she's our etiquette lady.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

Yes. She doesn't have a huge amount of screen time, but I will say, when she does get it, I'm not like mad about it.

SPEAKER_01 34:41

I'm fascinated by her hair.

SPEAKER_02 34:44

Yeah, it's like it starts back.

SPEAKER_01 34:46

It's a ponytail. Yeah, it seems to start back, but then it seems to have like it's like her head is with long at the back or something. Oh boy. And then there's a ponytail. Whenever I see her on screen, I can't stop looking at it. And then sometimes it looks like she's got makeup in it that's making her forehead look bigger, or it's distracting. It's really it's so bizarre. Um, but I also have looked at her um puppet etiquette. Everybody loves puppets. Yeah, she just puts her hand in the glory hole and pulls one out. It's but teaching kids etiquette with puppets again. Like a Mrs. Rachel's Littles or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

It's an American obsession with British etiquette and high society and all this stuff, which like I fucking could not tell you, I could not care less about this shit. But what I do care about is watching Americans grapple with it, I find quite interesting.

SPEAKER_01 35:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:45

Cause I don't know. I don't to me I'm just like, that's like colonialism.

SPEAKER_01 35:50

Yeah, and it's kind of and the way that she explains it through the show, she's like, oh, it's not like full um etiquette and manners, but it's just like how to eat a banana politely. And so she that cuts to a video of her eating a but these are all like things that have gone on gone viral on Instagram or TikTok like two years ago, you know, and it's like, oh see, we're fresh and hip and current. She's doing it too. And it's like, I'm not taking etiquette of from that woman.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

No, and I I don't know who her audience is. Like, I know she's like saying it's like children, right? But also, like, I don't know, is it like little British children? And and like why it's a weird thing to be into, and I'm not into it, but she's happy.

SPEAKER_01 36:35

But she's in London teaching etiquette to children. That's bizarre. But look, if she's happy, I'm happy. Yeah, look.

SPEAKER_02 36:41

I thought she was really funny in the cheese making thing when she was like strutting around. Yeah, I actually thought that was like a cute moment. I was like, she's she can lull.

SPEAKER_01 36:48

Actually, and when you see them kind of let loose in in a real way, is actually the most best part of it because you just go, Oh, you're not hamming it up, or you're not like pretending you're uptight or that someone said something so horrible to you that you can't bounce back from. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

Uh Lottie.

SPEAKER_01 37:07

I love her. I think she's so pretty. She's very pretty, she's so beautiful, and I love her like husband. I can't remember his name, but it's like they they look identical except the husband has a mustache. Is he like Dan or something?

SPEAKER_02 37:22

He is so when I think of London, yes, I literally envisage a man that looks exactly like that.

SPEAKER_01 37:28

Well, it's funny because I think that's Sasha Valua in a week.

SPEAKER_02 37:32

It is in a Jack London suit. In a Jack London suit.

SPEAKER_01 37:35

I know, but I was like, they're a really interesting couple. I was really thrown that they had a gender reveal. Me, too.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

I was like, you're gonna walk around looking like but that it's all a style thing. It's not a lifestyle thing. Because they're still kind of like, I don't know, but I would expect hungry people, they're not like you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's why I was like, ah, okay, you are sort of out of touch rich people. But I was shocked too. I'm like, why are you having a general party? Your fucking husband needs to have one first, and then like, do you know what I mean? I was like, what is it? In boxes, yeah, but she and she's with him, so she can be like, my husband's really quirky and different, and look at how quirky and cool you know. I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 38:25

But she's I think she's like a more stylish Alana Hill. You know, where it's like that thing where it's like brocade suits, and but instead of like uh bird's nest hair, it's like straightened and very that hell in a bottom cutter hair with little birds in it.

SPEAKER_02 38:45

Yeah, my god, Alana Hill. Gosh, what is she doing now?

SPEAKER_01 38:48

Oh, who knows?

SPEAKER_02 38:49

Probably I heard the rumour about House Eisen Melbourne coming back. With a lunar hill on it? No, but fucking get her on it. Yeah, that would be great. That would be amazing.

SPEAKER_01 39:01

I saw a video of Gina. Oh no, wait, not Gina. Shine, shine, shine Jackie. Jackie. Um doing a reading to a crowd. It's like, okay, there's someone in the room named Douglas who's uh looking for some love advice. There's a Holden Commodore at the front, um, and then it comes to a person in the crowd going, Oh yeah, that's me, and actually that's what I came here for. And I was like, You're a plant. This is too good. This is too good. I think it was like Douglas or Hamish or something.

SPEAKER_02 39:29

Michael Douglas Douglas, she's doing a dinner or something. And the QT. How much was it again? We were like that. No, wasn't it like nearly a thousand dollars?

SPEAKER_01 39:40

Yeah, yeah. To have another. No, I think it was over. Oh, yeah, it was like$1,200. Oh my god something like that. You were you were like nonchalant. Like, I'd pay that. I was not.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

I was like, for the reading part of it, because the readings cost that much anyway, don't they?

SPEAKER_01 39:55

But then of course, like it doesn't include it was a two-course meal and a non one two non-alcoholics or bitch.

SPEAKER_02 40:02

I've already been capped with that whore. Yeah, I don't need to go to Sarah. Do you know what's crazy?

SPEAKER_01 40:09

The angels are telling her that you said this in two days when this comes out. Bring it on.

SPEAKER_02 40:14

I'll see you at hey you I'll sing in Gina's court. Fantast. Let's talk about Mieshe.

SPEAKER_01 40:23

I didn't like her. Yeah. And the more her boobs fall out of her shirt, the more I love her. And that I go on you. Every episode there's she gets them in the It's fantastic, and it's like sometimes she arrives with like a bibbers shirt and then the wind blows, and it's just like boobs everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 40:40

Do you think she'll feel like Emrata?

SPEAKER_01 40:42

Yeah, she's got that, she's got that like Emrata's mum. You know, like you could if we're c casting a uh a movie about Emrata, she could play the mum.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

True, and when she said she had like Albanian heritage. I was like, of course you do. You look you fucking look like a Albania, yeah, yeah. And then she's like Swedish. I'm like, oh yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 41:04

And you know where they always when they say their names and then they have a little flag.

SPEAKER_02 41:07

Oh, the flag is Takarama.

SPEAKER_01 41:09

It's like um uh RuPaul's drag race, UK versus the world.

SPEAKER_02 41:13

Ladies versus the world. They do that, and it's like ladies of London versus the world. When it happens, I'm like, this is so dumb, and it defeats the whole purpose of the fact that like it's trying to show you know, there's people from all over living in a global city, no shit.

SPEAKER_01 41:28

Like and London of all places.

SPEAKER_02 41:31

It's very school project, like each person's getting a country. Yes, and you've got to tell us about what happens there.

SPEAKER_01 41:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 41:40

Yeah, she's great, and and um these past few episodes, she's like central to the drama. Yeah, she's causing well.

SPEAKER_01 41:48

I think also what is nice about Lottie and Michael is is that they are currently the voice of reason in a crowd, in a group of people that are out of their heads. Yeah, bonkers, like crazy. Cuckoo fucking cuckoo people. And it's like you do need the people to kind of like pull it back and chat to people in a reasonable, sensible way, which they do, which sets people off because they're like, I'm too busy being crazy. Don't tell me to calm down and think about the other person's feelings. Yeah, you know, like it's it's wild.

unknown 42:24

Fuck.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

Alright, shall we talk about our two sort of I don't know, villains, uh rival parties, Mark and Margot.

SPEAKER_01 42:35

Okay. Mark we kind of spoke about before, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 42:39

We've been talking about Mark this whole time, really, because he's omnipresent. He's in every space.

SPEAKER_01 42:43

In every in every space. Yeah. Rarely wearing a sock. Always in a suit. The hair is a lot. He's very um Jimmy Carr.

SPEAKER_02 42:53

Oh my god, he is. You know, and every time he comes on, I'm like, oh like preened and plucked, but still kind of it's this the way he holds his like is always open and he's always got like a kind of fake smile plastered on. I find a little bit terrifying.

SPEAKER_01 43:11

Yeah. I reckon it's all pinned and um frozen in that way. And on purpose. But you know, for an antique antique stealer, I'm sure is uh hundreds. But then he's fucking loaded, yes, yeah, yes, and he bought that Italian villa.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

It's like that when we had that scene, I was like, hang on. Because I thought he was a bit of a grifter. No, I that was at the start up because I hadn't I hadn't seen him on was it Chelsea? Oh yeah. I kind of thought, oh, this guy's faking it till he makes it. Yeah. He's hanging out with all these rich ladies and he's actually living in a one-bedroom apartment. But no, no, he's fucking rich. Got it. Yeah. But he's got some family trauma.

SPEAKER_01 43:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:49

Can't tell his parents who he loves and blah blah blah. Which I was like, I want can we I hate that they just like let that go. I was like, no, no, no, no. I need to know more about this. I know. What year is it?

SPEAKER_01 44:01

But I think they will. Do you think they'll do a cast trip to Italy to the villa?

SPEAKER_02 44:05

Surely.

SPEAKER_01 44:06

You know, like it's Yeah. Um, I was like, I think maybe this is a little seed um planting and then they'll have like a Mark because Mark's partner's not on the sho No, none of their partners are really on the show.

SPEAKER_02 44:18

And I'm like, Oh, you have a partner because you don't act like it.

SPEAKER_01 44:21

And who who's the partner?

SPEAKER_02 44:23

I need to know. Cause don't you think he he really acts like a kind of single gay man that's a bit despo and lonely and is hanging out with all these women.

SPEAKER_01 44:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:32

Which I'm being such a cut, but like I love watching him on the show. He's so entertaining. But I'm also just like, who are you, mate?

SPEAKER_01 44:39

Yeah, I know. There's there's yeah, there's not a lot.

SPEAKER_02 44:43

And then Margot, so Margot was like, she was the alternate.

SPEAKER_01 44:47

She's an California.

SPEAKER_02 44:50

That's come out that it was supposed to be Dara on the show, but then when she got called a madam in the first episode and was like, see ya.

SPEAKER_01 44:57

But Margot was in it on the saying. She was like a friend of, I think. This is just what I've heard, and then they last minute, they're like, Alright, you're in. Well, it's I mean, it's interesting because her and Martha are best friends from years ago, and even that I can't find the connection to be true, but it probably is. Yeah, it you know, very much is. But I was like, Margot's it's just she's just a very she's like the drama girl you went to school with, which is I would say essential to the story. Yeah, and you kind of need you need you need the villain there. Yeah, and I'm like, maybe she didn't realise she was gonna be the villain.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

I think, yeah, and she's doing this victim thing, which is which has really not worked out well. Yeah, and then now we've got Mark going on uh Watch What Happens, being like, wait till you see the receipts I've got. So that's I'm I'm s sat for that. Yeah, exactly. But I did want to touch on the the British humour of it all, only because it keeps popping up.

SPEAKER_01 45:57

But actually, before we do, can we talk about how Margot's outfits are truly terrible? Yes, and she's clearly spent a lot of money on the dropping the name. And because she's like and she's so good, like she's beautiful, so beautiful, yeah, and it's like yeah, she's stunning and tall and a you know, gorgeous face. But also it's like they're not all that bad.

SPEAKER_02 46:19

It's more that I think she's not conforming that they're all doing this old-worldly thing.

SPEAKER_01 46:25

They actually they all stick to kind of a style for themselves, like Mark Francis is always in some weird suit.

SPEAKER_02 46:31

So you can't and probably does that unknowingly because he doesn't want to be criticized, correct.

SPEAKER_01 46:37

And then I think Margot has been coming in with some big swings thinking she's like Rihanna or thinking she's the fashion the Bronwan of the show. She's like, Yes, she's trying to do it.

SPEAKER_02 46:48

Which to that I say, great. Then do it, give it up, and I wish she was I wish she had a bit more balls and was like, fuck off, Mark. I look hot, I love what I'm wearing. You know, no, that would have been cool. I know, but that's the thing rather than having a talk about it. Because he was being a cut. Like, I'm sorry. I think the British human thing is like sure, yeah, sure, sure, sure. I understand dry humour, I get that, but also it's not a defense for everything. I've just noticed recently on all of the shows I'm watching, there's a a man being rude to a woman and then using banter or bit of humour as the defense. Yes. Um happened on below deck down under with Chef Ben. It is kind of slightly exciting. Because you're saying that someone doesn't understand, yeah. But it's like, hang on, they don't understand how they feel.

SPEAKER_00 47:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 47:37

That's not possible. Yes. Yeah, they don't understand your cultural frame of reference, which is actually a very imperial way to be. Like, my cultural frame of reference is correct, yours is incorrect, and British people be acting like that. Yeah, and it's like I'm at a point now where I'm like about to lose my mind if another person says this.

SPEAKER_01 47:57

But I also like they can't harp on it. This can't be the drama for the whole season. Oh, it'll be so boring. It's like 10 episodes, so it can't be this.

SPEAKER_02 48:05

It's it's it's correct. Like, yeah, she's she's not picking up your joke, but like, do not not everyone had your your upbringing. Exactly. People have different things. It doesn't excuse you. It's like purposely being can't. Danny on MAFs as well. This guy, this horrible British man. No, I don't, I know, I'm explaining to you. He he this whole season gaslit this woman, and then in like the last episode, they play all this footage of him being an asshole, and then he comes out going, Oh, it's just banner. She doesn't get I'll grow up in England. We we've got banner, and I and everyone was just like, dude, like it's just like this, they play it like this card, it's me, it's usually men trying to wriggle out of like a situation where they've upset a non-British woman.

SPEAKER_01 48:54

Do you know? But I also think that with Mark in this instance, I think it's one over all the other ladies by being like that with them, like really playful, and they they actually love being actually told they look a bit shit or told like oh you're wearing this again. Oh, you're drunk again, and they're like because they get it, yeah, yeah. They put each other down and they think it's funny, and it is kind of funny. I agree.

SPEAKER_02 49:17

No, and and I do that with my friends, and and we love it, but we you have to have established that report.

SPEAKER_01 49:21

Margot is too serious, and she's I think really trying not to be serious.

SPEAKER_02 49:28

Yeah, I also don't think he was trying because he's his defense is oh no, I was saying that because I really like you. I'm like, but you don't like her, so it does do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 49:39

Like I know, I don't think it's but what about when when he like goes to hum hold her elbows and she goes, Don't touch me? It was so actually like yeah, that whole scene. Whoa, uh that was a lot.

SPEAKER_02 49:52

But it's true, like I don't like when gay men do try and be overly affectionate with women in a way like that. Like that it I I actually felt a bit uncomfortable for her, but then she overreacted so hard that now she's lost.

SPEAKER_01 50:06

I was just like it doesn't suit anyone for anyone's anyone to be like that. Like it doesn't suit her, doesn't suit Mark, and it actually the editors probably should have been like, We're gonna reshoot that. Just yeah, just step back and go, hey, like say exactly what you said, but just uh because you know that you know they're pulling reshoots, like this is not all natural, and then she's trying to like soak her way out of it, and I'm like, girl, like how much cooler would it have been if she just went, I don't care if people say what you want about my clothes, I'm fabulous, I love it, ha ha ha ha, and just kept going.

SPEAKER_02 50:37

Then we'd all be like if she was unbothered by him and unknown we'd all be like Slay Queen, I know, exactly. But he's got the power, he's and he's earned it by but can I but let's be honest, he fucking triggered her in the first place, but he won.

SPEAKER_01 50:54

Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's gonna be so good. It's gonna be yeah, exactly. And I hope it all does come out that like she actually she has I've heard from the inboxes from Oxford Street, aka Reels on Instagram that she has said that this is uncharacterized uncharacteristically like her, and she thinks she has postpartum um depression because um she's like I just couldn't stop crying, I couldn't like she's like my my response is abnormal, and I was like, Well, she only had a baby like a year before, and which is after the jokes we have made, I do actually feel for her that like that.

SPEAKER_02 51:34

That sound like that sound like they should have just kind of cut it and just with these shows as well, is like I never want to see one person get singled out, it's not enjoyable, even if it's fucking Amanda France or someone that's hateable as fuck, yeah, even when they're being it's like I don't know, it's that queer kid in us where we're like yes, it's just you just see it as being a bit bully vibe. Yes, so I don't want to see that, no, but also there's like oh they need to just kind of do better. I know and like not uh yeah, I'm like it's such a perfect show.

SPEAKER_01 52:03

I love I love everything about it, yeah. Um it's just those things, but I think that's also I'm like micro detailed and I'm like holding as an opinion to be true.

SPEAKER_02 52:14

I just like I just think it's you could write a fucking thesis about the British humour defense. I find it so fascinating, yeah, and there is an element of truth to it. Like I do but I'm not saying that it's not real. I understand as someone that understands what British humour is, and I actually am a big fan of it, I like a lot of British comedy, but it's like to weaponize it in that way, as this no further questions will be asked because you you've actually not understood, yeah, and therefore you're wrong, I think it's kind of just like in in that in any sense is not a nice thing to do to someone else, it's just like devalidating their whole existence, yeah. It's a bit like oh it's trash.

SPEAKER_01 52:58

Can I also just ask, do you think that these maybe are just easy easy tensions to rise in these shows? Not for I don't know the math thing, and that sounds like it actually was quite awful. But I think in like the this instance, I'm kind of looking at it now as like this could just be easy tension that they've created. Yeah, that they're like, there's not a lot of actual fight or tension. So we need to give something.

SPEAKER_02 53:24

Yeah, and of course it was bound to happen when you've got a cast of people in because the other thing is they are in England, yeah, and she's there, uh and she is very like LA vibes, which I love when they make fun of her for that. I'm like, I love it. I love it. And I love it.

SPEAKER_01 53:38

Go back to LA, you fake bitch, and the yeah, exactly. And Kimmy's like weird, it's like a weird trans what is it called? Transatlantic accent accent. But she's also had too many martinis, so she's like, Yes, but an actress from California. Like it's so weird. She's so she's an actress, Mark. Don't listen to her. It's amazing, so good to watch.

SPEAKER_02 54:01

So it is fun, but you're right, it's kind of like it's only got so much legs, and then we're gonna need some retention.

SPEAKER_01 54:07

Yeah, because I remember, you know, like ladies of London, yeah. OG Legacy. Yeah, Legacy.

SPEAKER_02 54:16

What were they so long ago? What were they even fighting about? I can't fucking remember. Like, I actually need to re-watch it because I was so bad on the recaps we did for Realst I was in London. Everyone would always be like, Don't you remember Juliet Angus? I'm like, no. It was like she was on there.

SPEAKER_01 54:30

It was over ten years ago that show. She was on that, yeah, and Sanbury.

SPEAKER_02 54:34

And Sanbury, and yeah, and there was similar cultural tensions there, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 54:39

And also there was a um an a Julie, there was like two Julies, a Juliet. I know it was like we've gone from J's to M's, but one of them was like married to a an Earl of Sandwich or something, and they had a house and she was turning into like a long list.

SPEAKER_02 54:54

Because they can't have one of these shows without someone that has like a because you also need you need to throw in that thing. It's almost as good as what was her name? Venus, Venus Bebahani Clark, and her husband who had like a square of land in Scotland or whatever. Remember that? Like, you bought your title from do you remember that from Rouse House of Melbourne? Or you haven't? I didn't really watch Melbourne. Oh my god. There was this one moment where she was like, I'm um I have a title. You can buy us you bought your title online.

SPEAKER_01 55:23

You can buy a meter of uh land to be given given a title, yeah. And that's that's what she did about it.

SPEAKER_02 55:31

How much longer have we got left of ladies?

SPEAKER_01 55:34

I'm I'm I think it's only like maybe 10 or 12 episodes, so we don't have long.

SPEAKER_02 55:38

It's so good. It's really good. Yeah, you're right, it is building up to this crescendo. Yeah, and then I hope there's a reunion. There has to be. There will be because it's gonna be so good.

SPEAKER_01 55:47

Catherine Ryan hosting hosting it again. Oh no, she did uh uh Real Housewives of London.

SPEAKER_02 55:53

Do you think she'll do this as well? This is Bravo though. I can it'll be Andy.

SPEAKER_01 55:58

You think Andy will do it?

SPEAKER_02 56:00

If it's popular, maybe I have no idea.

SPEAKER_01 56:03

Did he do the oh Housewives of London was uh no, but I was thinking that um I was I thought she was great though, Catherine Ryan.

SPEAKER_02 56:13

You didn't know she was alright.

SPEAKER_01 56:15

I thought I went for the five. I know we'd like to be I'm like hmm I didn't think that she was that good on it as as uh as a host.

SPEAKER_02 56:25

I don't think it matters who does it because they're gonna be so activated. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:33

They should get someone like Tilda Swinton to host.

SPEAKER_02 56:36

Of course.

SPEAKER_01 56:37

And she can play Andy. You should do it, doll.

SPEAKER_02 56:40

Get out of there. Oh my god, Steven, thank you so much for joining us. I went there already. So quick. I love this show so much. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:47

Well, let's go back to Paddington.

SPEAKER_02 56:49

Back to Paddington, darling. Yeah. Bye-bye.

SPEAKER_01 56:51

Bye.