The Cringe is Real

Australian Survivor - Redemption Week 4 (w/ Michael McDermott)

Sam Cremean

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Michael and Sam are taking NUT AFTER NUT from this week of Australian Survivor an honey our girls are flaming out hard. Mark’s signing divorce papers and Simon is finally wearing his big boy boots and making moves. Aisha and Faith get cocky and therefore snuffed. We are gearing up for a fun merge! That and some Mormon Wives and Survivor 50 chat. 

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This podcast was produced on the land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation. Welcome to Australia! Someone who is such a conservative reality television. The content is hideous.

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So sorry about this. Oh my god.

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Oh my god.

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Oh my god. I'm so sorry about this. Hello.

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So sorry. Sorry for my beauty.

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How are you?

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Oh, look, I'm okay. I'm doing good. Oh yeah. Just back from your holiday. Back from the bush. From the bush. I don't know if I'd call it a holiday. No. Um, hiking and camping in torrential downpour. Yeah. Uh in beautiful Northern Territory. Stunning. But um It was like Survivor, I guess. It was Survivor America Season 2, the Australian Outback. Yes. What was her name? Was it Alicia? Was that her name? Yes. That was Alicia. Yep. And who else was that was Jerry Manthey. Yeah. Colby Donaldson, who's currently on 50. Watching 50?

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It was. Yes, I am watching 50. Yes. I'm enjoying it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm enjoying it. It's fine. It's fine. I think it's better. Like it's the best season in the new era, obviously. And people were criticizing the casting of not having enough iconic characters, but at the same time, we couldn't. I mean, I agree with that 100%. I agree, but we're I feel like of the people that were a bit shit casting, we're getting good content out of them. True. You know, Emily and Genevieve.

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Yeah, Emily's face just like when she was like, oh my god. That was a perfect impression. I'm gonna the highlight for me was old man shitting himself last week. That was a chance. It was great. I love him. Yes. And Mike White. Mike White with abs.

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Yes, the middle-aged gay male eating disorder, which we all know very well.

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I feel like it's an implant or something at this point. He's got he's got implant money.

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No, he was this is him being in Thailand, White Lotus filming, and up at like 4 a.m. every day before they started filming on the abs. Literally, it was like him and Schwarzenegger were like the only people in the gym. There you go. Yeah, he was training for 50.

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Um, but yes, I was in the bush. Yeah. I need to tell you all about my stalker. Oh. Uh Queen Mary of Denmark. Yes. This she's always been obsessed with you. She would not fucking leave me alone.

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I believe it.

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I'm not joking. Like, okay, so the first encounter, we're at uh the sunset spot, and all those who have been to Ulru, you'll know the spot. They take they drive the buses out there, they give pop a bottle of champagne, they're like enjoy the sunset. Yes. Or as we got to enjoy it, the overcast clouds over Ulru. Yeah. And then next thing you know, like Danish like marked like secret service vehicles, like in a convoy, like some women, and we're all like, excuse me. And next thing you know, I'm like metres from her, and uh Frederick's. Both of them looking stunned.

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Oh, I don't doubt it. Silver Fox, Frederick.

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Well, he's still got it.

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How long has that been?

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Like, when did they met in 2000? Has it really? They met at the Sydney Olympics.

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Because like when they met, it was like a huge deal. So it's like Tasmanian.

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Yeah, I know. She's now the when she becomes princess. Yeah, God. Anyway, and now she's been stalking you ever since. She's been stalking me ever since. So she was there and she was kind of like and like there wasn't many people around. And right where our setup was was like right next to where they were going. Yeah. And there was like this Channel 7 News girly who was like, um guys, did you see like which way did she go? Like blah blah blah blah. And then the Sky News girly came out, and I was like, in a hideous dress.

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Oh, it's so they all wear it like really bright block colour. Bright block colour blue. Yeah, blue. But the blue like 100% horrendous. They it looks terrible in real life on camera. When it's just like waist up, it looks okay.

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It's like a blue screen. Yeah, yeah. Literally. Is that maybe that's why they did it? Because they might change their mind in post and like want to just put a a pattern on it. No, so they were there for you. They interviewed some like German girls in our tour group being like, Did you think you'd see the queen of Denmark and your chip? And they're like, No, we didn't. Why didn't they interview you? Oh, look, I think because of the stalker situation, the allegations haven't been settled.

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It's a bit messy. It's messy. So I I declined to comment. That's fair enough. Without your attorney present.

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But then the next day we did the base walk around Uluru, and fucking no joke, we're walking, and this is like 5 a.m. And then like this woman, like power walking with like Lululemon by, and I was like, who is this Karen? And I turn around and it's this time because she like recognized us at this point, she was like, Oh and I was like, Diva. And then we saw her again at the cultural center. So I had three run-ins with her Madge. And I gotta say, she's she's looking so snatched. Oh yeah. She had look, she had like outback looks. Really? Yeah.

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Well, besides the Lululemon.

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Well, that was, I mean, it was still active, but it was fucking chic.

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Were there like so you said media following her? There were media following. So it was a whole like curated.

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I don't know if they were invited. They were just because that's they were hunting.

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As I'm sure you're now aware, it is difficult to get to.

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Yeah. You can't just like No no no no. That's the thing. They would have put like Sky would have been like Jenny, get on the next flight, hunt her down. You're there for a week. Yeah, and they had, and but I'm like, what a story that it literally just like just like her there. Oh, they went on the walk. It's like, okay.

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Yeah, just cool. Take a photo anyway. Yeah. Have fun. Um that was cute.

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Yeah. So I actually really enjoyed that. Because she's she's of all of the like royalty can fuck off, but she's pretty chic. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Obviously, like in the guillotine, but she looks great right before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A little bit of complicated. Oh, well, magic. It sounds like a roaring success of a trip.

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Roaring success, rain, rain on the rock, yeah, but beautiful. And uh a rain of sorts. Yes. Wow. Uh how good. Speaking of royalty, are you watching Ladies of London?

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No.

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You simply must. Really? Season four is like a reboot with a whole new cast, and it is is only two episodes? Three episodes? Three episodes. Yeah. And it is already like beyond iconic. And where it's on Bravo and it's on Hey U. Okay, Hey U. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Highly recommend if you're not watching that go and do something. Go and watch it. Okay. But you have been watching Mom and Wives.

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I have. Is that season four? Season four. So apparently now they're doing two a year. So the season four, the filming timeline is they've I think in episode three, they filmed the season three reunion. So we get like that.

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And it's very And then so every second season is just gonna be them doing the pressure.

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It is the Marvel Cinematic Universe timeline where I am so confused as to where I am, what year it is.

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Is it still in that?

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So not visibly, but my god, he is like, I would say number three in his face. How's his face talked about?

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Does his face still resemble a face? Or at this point, is it just like shapes?

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There is no meant vision of him because they have like a text on screen that there's a lawsuit. He's suing them and the producers and Hulu and probably the girls and everyone. He's suing everyone because of defamation and he's suing Demi. Me now. Yep. And his face above shapes. You are fucked. Yeah, I'm not going to prison if I am not.

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Like for the record, I support Marciano and his face.

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If it comes to the case. Oh my god. Okay, so I love that.

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I love messy legal drama and like on-screen text, being like this legal drama. They declined to be interviewed. Yeah, it's okay.

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Obsessed. So good. And then so there's they're film they're rehearsing and slash filming Dancing with the Stars. If you remember Jen and Whitney were at the end of season two.

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Oh, so the whole show is them doing that. Uh mean Robert Irwin is in the show.

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So we haven't seen any other celebrities there. And I think obviously for obvious reasons, but we we know that Dancing with the Stars is also a Disney property. So it's on Hulu. So we're at the end of the year.

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So it is literally the it's literally the cinematic universe. It it no entity that owns Marble.

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So dad talk is going is such a big thing this season. No, you're not. Unfortunately, yes. The the men are really risen up in terms of screen time.

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I've got to catch up.

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And the villa, Vanderpump Villa, all the dads go on to the villa and like shit happens and Marcy. Oh, so then that'll be on the next Vanderpump Villa show.

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Vanderpump Villa sucks, man. Give that up.

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Well, dad talk. You're gonna have to watch it.

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Stop trying to make dad talk happen. Okay, I'll catch up. I'll catch up and we'll do an app on it. Yes, please. Okay, cool.

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Obviously, a great season, as they all are. Very entertaining, very messy. It's top tier.

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Yeah. I love how messy it is. These women, you could put these women in a vacuum and they would make drama. They would make compelling television.

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Compelling television and the fact that they're all exploring opportunities for brand deals, TV. I mean, as we know, Whitney is now on Broadway starring in Chicago. So that's going to be when they're filming season seven, probably.

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Is he doing well?

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Yeah, he's he's doing well. The hair, he his hair he had a hair transplant. I feel like he needs another one. There's he might have gone to Turkey and gotten a not great one because there's this season it's I can see some scalp.

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Oh yeah.

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Just get a little tiny. My brother in arms. You can't well in arms.

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You can, but you are only so many, there's only so many graphs that one has in their hair. Well, where do they get it from? From the back of your head. Oh, okay, okay. Because that's where you like don't really experience hair loss. They literally just move it. And because you don't really see it because hair grows over, but you can't take all of it because there's only a finite amount of graphs. Anyway, I could I could go on.

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Insignificant asshole hair. Oh my god. Uh, era of Australian Survivor. We are here. How do you feel about the fucking golden god? I feel I feel he's blooming this week.

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Yes, he's done well. I mean, I think everyone who was like boycotting the show or saying how terrible he is.

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Where are those people now? Where are you? Reveal yourselves.

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Watch JLP. What's Jeff Propes in season one?

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Well, actually, Jeff Propes, I feel like has the reverse trajectory where he was fabulous and now he's deranged old man that needs to be put to bed.

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Yeah, it's definitely very different. But but Golden God, yeah, I think he's doing well. I can't name a single other person in the entire country who could do it.

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He's I think like, yes, I'm still upset. We don't have JLP. I love you, JLP. But if literally, if you if anyone was gonna do it, it's him. Weirdly, it's him, and weirdly it feels right. Yeah, it felt correct from the start. I haven't questioned it once. Um, he was a little some of those post-tribals were a little clunky town for a while. Now they're fine. Exactly. Survivor Daddy the spanking last week. That was great.

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Yeah, that was fun. He's being produced well. I don't love some of the outfits. That's fine. Uh-huh. Um Survivor is a people said it's the hair as well. Yeah, it's like Can we have it out. Yeah, they want it, they want travel to feel a bit elevated so he's dressed up more than in the challenges where he's wearing a hat, so they need to get it's just like it's going to be a linen shirt. I know. But that the hair, I wonder if he's got big receding energy, and that's why they need to like do a little kind of gel down.

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Yeah.

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No, don't. They're not gonna do it.

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No, don't uh Crash Picks. I'm still so hardcore on the Ben train. This week there were some shots of Ben that took my breath away.

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When he like couldn't resist butt to like performing the challenge.

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And Simon's little butt in that um under the net.

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Yeah. It's it's such a straight butt, and I can't don't I have no follow-up. It's such a trady little straight butt. It is. Even the like bright pink speedos is still the most heterosexual thing I've got to do.

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The budgie smugglers. You're never gonna see a gay man in a bright pink speedo that says buddy smuggler. With like with little like beers on it or whatever. A pineapple. Oh yeah, a pineapple. No, no, no, no, no. Gays will have a little thong that's like neutral tone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a neutral, a flesh tone, or like a green, uh an emerald green, but then with like a jewelry, like a ring.

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Yes. It costs$150 minimum. It's a bit, it's a bit texty.

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It's shipped from some hideous Instagram business. We've all found it on Instagram. We've all Charlie. And we all walk into the pool party being like, no other bitch is gonna up. And then we're all Everett clocked, clocked, clocked. But no, no faggot is wearing a budgie smuggler. No, that is a heterosexual man's brand. And I'm so happy for them. Go off. Go off. I'm happy to see the thighs and the package and the butt, like shows it all off. Yeah. I love doing.

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I love Simon. I love. I think he's so hot. I think he's a really good player. Yep. I think he's a nice guy. Yeah. He's definitely like a nerd in a jock's body as well, which is very sweet. And I think that's why he generally does well. And he plays, he always says, you know, I'm the worst player ever. And that's just because he's like, But he's misplayed. He's in on the joke. And we've got that.

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And that's what I love about Australian Survivor. These people that they cast mostly are in on the joke. And they're happy to send themselves up. Even like we were hanging shit on. They know what they're doing. Exactly. We were hanging shit on Tez last week. Hi Tez. Friend of the pod now. He would be, yes. Messaged us, loves it. Thank you. Because we were being total cunts, but like that's the whole vibe of the world.

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You're lucky I wasn't on that week, Tez. But I love you now. We love that you're a friend of the show. Tez was great.

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Tez was a quintessential Australian survivor character.

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Absolutely. You should be thrilled with your edit. Yep. I must say.

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I like a burnout edit.

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Yeah. And even like the week that he was going, I was just like, fuck, this is generous. And I was like, God, they're being so kind to him. Does he go? Does he like survive and win? And I was like, God. Anyway.

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This is burnout fucking week, isn't it? We have two girlies, Flame Hot, and then Extinguished, which I love.

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Yeah. And some fucking. Should we get into it? Let's get into it. My god, we're only what 20 minutes in? Yeah, let's do it.

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Episode 10 was called We'll move quickly. It was called an Oscar winning performance. Yes. Gags. We start at Baron, Tribe Post Tribal. Yeah. And something about Simon's butt. I don't know.

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We've discussed it enough. There's too much airtime on this pod for Simon's butt.

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And Ben is like, oh yeah, Beauty and the Beasts. Which I've renamed Bros and the Beasts. Yeah, it's a Bro Alliance. It's Jackson, Simon, and Ben who are like browing out, and then like Loz is there.

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Yeah, and Brooke. Yeah. Yeah, uh Beauty and the Beast is such a fucking dumb.

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It's a dumb name, so I refuse to use it. I just call it Brown.

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It's those.

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They're high on the smell of their own farts right now.

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Yeah, well, they've just been they've barely gone to tribal.

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Exactly. At Bounty, I'm loving Bounty's whole storyline is just Mark and the Sister Wives.

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Yes. The Secret Lives.

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Mark reflects on the double tribal. He's like, it's a win-win for me. Tez is gone. I got Intel on the other tribe. He's sitting pretty. Yeah. He's got some sneaking suspicions though about these girlies sneaking in. And he's right to have them because uh Rich and Keely are having some little chats. They're kind of odd, oddballs. They're kind of bonding on being odd one out energy.

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Yes, but the Keeley is very much a sister wife and in on it. She's in on it, but she's playing her options. I no Keely Keely. I love Keeley. So Keely was my at one winner pick. Really? Yeah. I'm definitely don't think she's gonna win now.

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Yeah.

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Still could. She she definitely could. I think she's anyway. We're jumping ahead. But she's designed to merge as like the probably bottom of bottom of the like list in terms of physical threats, zero allies, and no one's gonna be targeting her at the very beginning of merge.

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Anyway, so the border director is born.

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Oh god, their name's this season.

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No.

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I've had it.

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I've fucking had it.

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It's probably the worst. Like I can't think what's a good alliance name for any of these people? I mean, the sister wives.

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I think there's been a good one since the Spice Girls. That was good.

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That was good.

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We need to have evictions when these names are terrible. Like we need JL, not JLP, GG needs to go. Needs to walk out and just send them home. All of them when they come up with a bad name.

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Yeah, it's taking up too much airtime.

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They find a scroll and it's like your alliance name is shit.

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I think the producers need to step in because obviously they need to name it because it's like easy to understand for the viewer. It's a marketing promo thing. Totally get why we need to name alliances. But uh, when they come up with a name, the producer needs to step in to be like, um, that shit, we're gonna redo it, come up with a better name, and we're not leaving until I'm satisfied.

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That is what the producers need to be doing be like, no, no, I would this should just be like make it more salacious, you're dumb.

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Yeah. What the beauty and the beast, try again.

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Try better, try to get it.

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Try better. Literally, no. I mean, like, I don't know what any of those five people have in common. But they the first time any any group of people on Survivor have a conversation, they're like, Okay, we need to name this group. And I was like, not everything needs to be named.

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Or you can just see those producers in the corner being like, Oh, do you know what would be really fun? Just a little bit of fun. Just a little name. You guys, you guys could be iconic on Reddit if you came up with a really catchy name and they're all like, oh you're gonna make the telly if you do this.

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And they all know it, and Brooke, Brooke knows it. All the retainees know how to play the game. Well, we've had it. Oh, yeah, I'm done. Officially, no more names.

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At Baron, Simon continues to look snatched. Um, this is half of my notes this week, by the way. It's just things like that. So strap yourself in. Yeah. Um he's reflecting on his win over Mark. Good to reflect. He's like, oh, beat Mark in the fucking fire challenge. On the flip side, Asha uh says that last night was the worst case scenario for her and D.Va. Correct.

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What happened the night before? Oh, I see.

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And just the whole double tribal thing. And she had she was kind of I I loved her mind because she was thinking about all the options and blah blah blah. But then of course they got there and it was like kind of flop.

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Yeah, I just I like her um enthusiasm.

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Yes. Oh, she came in. Gorgeous gowns, gorgeous gown, gorgeous gowns. Facial expressions as well.

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Yeah, they would always cut to her and she'd be like very expressive, very good. So we like that. We like the enthusiasm, we like the energy. Um I I think I'm I'm sure in an if she played again, she would do much better.

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Bring her back. I think she has Shawnee levels of like queendom.

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I think if she well, I think yes, Shawnee naturally, I think, was a better strategist than her. Whereas Asher, I think, was making very, very bad decisions. Yeah. But give her another go. But she was going after returnees for no reason except the fact that she just didn't return.

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I would have done that.

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Well, maybe you would have gone out at a similar time. Absolutely.

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Uh Jackson and Ben one are out. They're like the queen must go. Get rid of her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, then we get this bluff game reward challenge. So I feel like this I feel like this replaced the auction.

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100%, and I'm okay with it. I liked it. Yeah.

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It was very traitors-esque. Yeah, yeah. Giving them a bit of a bluff. What do you mean? It did out some people, Brooke, as being very good at lying. That was crazy. Too good at lying. I think that was too good. What are you doing? Yeah, that was scary. Someone was like Sally. Was it Sally? Oh no, she she bluffed Sally. Oh, yeah, yeah. But someone commented later, like, uh, Brooke is dangerous. Yeah. How could you not?

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I like if you I was gagged watching. She bluffed me as if you were watching home.

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And the mu because the music was like, oh my god. It was like swelling. Something from home. Yes.

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I was totally in it. And I was like, because why would you bother? Why would you bother lying so badly to what get a fucking burger?

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It was a slice of like lemon meringue pie. I was like, girl, that's not worth like adding your whole game for. I don't know. I think with that, should have just been a bit of fun.

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But that just shows how competitive she is. She probably knows that, like, okay, strategically I shouldn't do this, but I just have to win. Yeah.

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Blanche in her little peanut butter sandwich found a little micro skull. This is the second uh choking hazard of the season.

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What's the hang on, guys? They have to get creative as to where they're. They hide these in the um people's fucking stomachs. Yeah. Oh, I would be so hungry and I love peanut butter, so that shit would have just like fully down my esophagus. What they want, do they? I would shit out the scroll.

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Do they want someone to shit out a scroll?

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And they'll be like, oh my god.

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Oh my god! I gotta clue you guys.

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And the producers have to follow them and be like, I'm gonna go to the toilet. And the producer's like, okay, shit, this is gonna find the scroll.

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Ten are like we have we've lost JLP, Redding's a question. We need a we need a commitment.

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Yeah. Competing with maths, we need to analyze in 100%. Yeah. Maybe that's it.

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It's gonna save the change.

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Anyway, good for Blanche.

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I mean Blanche is uh low-key outing herself as a superstar this week as well. Those her and those bulkons just like jumping up and down. Where she moves but they don't. It's amazing.

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Or they move and she's not moving.

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One or the other. Or the camera's moving. I don't know. Something's happening.

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Mesmerising. No, I love I love her. I think she's great energy. She's really she's she's having fun and not taking it too seriously, which I think is a good thing about this cast. No one is everyone's taking it seriously, but not too seriously.

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Do you know who is taking it seriously? And it's my next note. Uh Lottie. She says to Keely, Are you working with Mark? Are you working with Mark or for Mark? And I'm like, calm down. Can we just let's there's part like I don't know.

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Yeah, with Mark or for girl what? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like I didn't like Lottie at the start. I yeah. I think I would in another world I would like Lottie, but I'm not liking her game this time. I think she's villain. Yeah.

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And I'm excited to see that later on.

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Yeah. I think she's going deep.

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Yeah, she's going to at Baron uh Baron. Loz is like, um, yeah, Brooke is fucking good at lying. She's also thinking about Beauty and the Beast. Oh god and if that's a good idea. Uh but Blanche and Asha are cooking up a plan um to find this idol with the clue that Blanche removes from her asshole.

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Um her small intestine, yes. She gets inside there.

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This was when I was like, Asha is my girl, because she could not contain the excitement. I know.

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Don't react.

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Don't react, she's like, wow!

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Yeah, she was me in that moment. Bless. And then she's such a good value. Yes. And then we get the lesbian version of the Geordie and Simon thing with the oh, it's in my underwear. Because she goes to Blanche, it's my underwear.

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Do you want to reach for it?

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Do you want to reach in, grab it?

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I don't understand why Blanche couldn't do this herself. Like why? I mean, Asher was just like, I mean, sure, I'll go get it.

SPEAKER_01

There's more power to a thing like that, isn't there, if you share it with someone? Because then it strengthens you.

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Yes, but Blanche should have shared it once she had found it. True. Like once you find it. No, but Ashad literally just went and got it. Yeah. It's in the shelter. Like, just keep looking. Like how I mean, one thing, I mean, I know the players don't often think about this, but basically, wherever if you think where an idol could be, what angle can the camera capture you finding it? If the idol It's not gonna be where if you find it, there is no way the camera could frame it. Yeah. So it has to be either outside on the roof where there is lots of depth of field for the cameras to capture you finding it. It's it's it's really not that hard. Like if it's in the shelter, like it'll take you fucking five minutes to find it.

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Like I don't know why Blanche had to basically just They should get really sore with it and be like, the idol is inside Simon. Oh, give me one second. Idol is somewhere in Simon. In his rectum. Yeah. Yeah. And it's fair game.

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And he's I'll watch that. Yeah. Wouldn't take long.

SPEAKER_01

I d do you know why? I just watched um The New Ready or Not last night. Oh, I haven't seen it. It's really good. Yeah, okay, great. It was it's giving that. Like, go get him. Inside Ben. And they all just like, yeah. Oh yeah. Or something like that.

SPEAKER_02

I can see the crossover. No. Say no more.

SPEAKER_01

So we get this human centipede uh immunity challenge.

SPEAKER_02

Everyone was having a lot of fun with that. Brooke was inside Ben, literally.

SPEAKER_01

Then there was like joy. I liked this puzzle where it was like two people, because normally it's just one person, it's whatever. This was like you have to do it, but with someone.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Loved that. And Asher, her throwing it was just appalling. It was so obvious. Yeah. She would literally get it, and then she just like turns it upside down.

SPEAKER_01

Oh no. Yeah, see, again, she's me, because throwing the idea of throwing a challenge is like so everything to me. Oh, really? I would just throw every challenge just for the screen time at tribal. I literally would be like, should we go to tribal just for fun?

SPEAKER_02

There is no fucking way I would ever throw a challenge.

SPEAKER_01

Not even with Caleb on your tribe.

SPEAKER_02

No, I no, I'm I'm too competitive. I don't think I'd be like Ben, honestly. I would go in being like strategically, okay, we need to throw the challenge.

SPEAKER_01

Physically incapable of throwing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Oh, as in the most recent episode.

SPEAKER_01

And last week, and like he just can't throw.

SPEAKER_02

That would be me. I'm too competitive.

SPEAKER_01

You know, such a chuck.

SPEAKER_02

Like all the footy, like all the footy players on this season. That's me. Former AFL superstar, played eight games or whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Mark Winsert for bounty. Yep. Uh, and yes, throwing. So at Bieran, Brooks uh can tell that there was bad acting going on. Yeah. With Asha.

SPEAKER_02

Nothing gets past her. No. And this is yeah, this was she's played the most amount of days of any player. Like she knows.

SPEAKER_01

Fuck, she's gorgeous.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, she's so good.

SPEAKER_01

She's hot.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

She's fly. She's pretty. She's everything of the watch.

SPEAKER_02

Survivor. I know. Which makes it even better.

SPEAKER_01

I love respect. She doesn't give a shit. She's like, who is Mark?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I'll come in and I'll win. Like, I don't care.

SPEAKER_01

She's like, there's this guy here that claims to have played Survivor.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Oh, you watch oh, you watched my season? That's nice.

SPEAKER_01

That's nice. I was really hoping that wasn't. Was it good? I don't know. I didn't watch it.

SPEAKER_02

Queen. So hot. Yeah. Oh. She's going far. Every time Brooke plays, she's always gonna like go far. She's just so naturally good at the game. Yeah. No matter, even in the worst possible scenarios, she'll still make it.

SPEAKER_01

She whips out her idol in Confessional and tells us uh she's putting her faith in the beauties and the beasts. And Simon just wants everyone to dump on Usher. Which I'm like, no. Loz though is conflicted. She's like, Do I stay with uh the Alliance, take out Brooke? That was or do I dump on Usher?

SPEAKER_02

There was no way that that was a real thing. They need to create a storyline of the city.

SPEAKER_01

I was watching that and I was like, This is such a fake sentence. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And Loz was maybe the most believable of who wouldn't be going on with the plan.

SPEAKER_01

With Usher with the Idol, I was kind of hoping for an idol standstill. Yeah, that could have been everything. They didn't build that up enough.

SPEAKER_02

Well, because Asher must have not even mentioned her idol once. I think because Asher was so blindsided that there was no story of whether Asha was feeling, you know, paranoid or could play an idol. So there was just no content for them to show about the idol, which was sad because she went home with the idol. She got so cocky.

SPEAKER_01

So cocky. This idol, this I the this tribal was pretty epic though. Like uh Brooke plays an idol second of the season. Yep. The zoom in on Asha's face, she's like, uh, but then she doesn't play hers, should have played it, and then it would have been oh no, no, and then who the fuck would have even gone?

SPEAKER_02

Ben, I think they split the vote. Well, in their mind it was split Asha thought vote for Brooke, split it on Ben, Brooke plays an idol, Ben goes home, the end. And Asha was just so blinded.

SPEAKER_01

Sent home with someone else's idol in her pocket.

SPEAKER_02

That's so good. And Blanche is what you get. Yeah. Look for your idol yourselves.

SPEAKER_01

And I like Simon going, told you I didn't want to throw that challenge. I was like, ooh. That's what you get. Daddy's match.

SPEAKER_02

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_01

Uh episode 11 is called Draw Up the Divorce Papers. Who said that? Uh I don't know if it was said or if it was just it's always a line. Anyway, between things. Yeah, it might be.

SPEAKER_02

Um 11 starts after the biggest blind side of the season.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Simon uh calls it. He's had redemption. He's like, everyone, redemption. I did a thing.

SPEAKER_02

I finally voted. It was so cute. Has he just never been a part of a blind side? I was like, surely, you've played twice.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that was the thing. I was like, don't draw attention to that. Yeah, yeah. As like your big thing.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, happy for him. Yeah. But my god, what a legacy. It was It took three seasons to make one move.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. And Lottie says, Simon is dead to me. I mean too bad, so sad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I I I I I mean Lottie doesn't really have a whole lot of places to go, so I don't Yeah. I'm I don't I don't think that she's actually gonna cut Simon loose.

SPEAKER_01

No, not yet. No. Who knows? I don't know. Something cool could happen. Um at Bounty, Sister Wives are thinking divorce.

SPEAKER_02

Don't you mean wait, what do they fucking call it themselves? The board of directors?

SPEAKER_01

No, they're the three wise women. Oh, stop it. And then there's the board of directors, and then there's head office. There's too many names.

SPEAKER_02

There's so many that it's all dumb. Anyway, sister wives, yes.

SPEAKER_01

They're like, how long do we stay married to Mark? Or is it time to get divorced? Keely is making Mark paranoid. Uh which every time Mark's like, I'm paranoid, I'm like, good, you fucking should be. You should be. Especially Faith.

SPEAKER_02

Faith, yeah, we'll get to it later, but she was getting big mean girl edited and gets ahead of herself, unfortunately. I think women in Australian Survivor they love to always have at least a couple of women who are always edited as you know the mean girls because they talk themselves up. It's a very like tall topic.

SPEAKER_01

They're cackling together when they're together, like thinking hee hee hee, that was great. It was when she kind of accident she got too comfortable with that and started doing it to Mark. And I'm like, babe, you need to make him feel like you need to make him feel like you're dumb and that you have no idea how to do stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02

But she I guess she was so cocky in or so confident in her uh relationship with Mark that thinking, like, well, I know that Mark trusts me 100%, so I can make these jokes to him.

SPEAKER_01

And he picks up on that vibe change, and then yeah. Keely uh has her hand in every single pie. She's got the board of directors, uh blah blah blah, the blah blah blah. Good on her. At Bieron, the bros are broing. Yeah. Jackson.

SPEAKER_02

How do you feel about Jackson? I was very sad when Harry went home, but I did respect when he like kind of did that move and arced up, and I was like, oh, maybe he has an IQ above 70. I don't know. Um, I tend to really not like those kinds of characters. Like wrestler. Yeah, the Laracans. Because they I always find they're never they never provide anything to the game, they're not really that fun, they're a bit annoying to watch, and they stifle good gameplay. I think Jackson has the ability to have good moments. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Him and Caleb have this weird frenemy crush obsession thing with each other, and I really want to see that. Like, someone's gonna slap someone on the face.

SPEAKER_02

This was also a big spoiler because I was like, oh well, Caleb makes merch because they're obviously planting the seeds of this relationship. Ah, true. There's no way that they don't get up on the beach together. So with all of this, like, who's gonna win the challenge? Who gets voted out? And I was like, well, I know Caleb's.

SPEAKER_01

I think they need to have a little kiss.

SPEAKER_02

The thing odds are not zero. You know, never say never. We don't know. Only fans collab?

SPEAKER_01

Sure. Hey, I'm just throwing out business ideas, you guys. You can have that one. No, but did you see he's doing a a wrestling match with Harry? Oh, is he? Yeah, Jackson is.

SPEAKER_02

Why are there so many wrestlers in Australia's game?

SPEAKER_01

I think it's if I was casting, yeah, I would go, yep, if you're a wrestler, you're sure you're show off. Yeah. You're happy to throw down, you're happy to like talk shit. And perform. Perform. Because wrestling is a a performance. Yeah. Um and the one-on-one.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, the one-on-one challenges is very perfect for that.

SPEAKER_01

I think it's actually I can see where they're going with that casting. And I actually had a lot of wrestling work. Were they all yeah? Harry was a wrestler and someone. They've got this Cameron guy who I know he does something else like MMA vibe or whatever, but that fighting vibe is kind of perfect for Survivor. Yeah. Anyway, couldn't fucking care less. Um Lottie is trolling Simon this week. Yeah. She's actually kind of iconic for this. She's like, Simon thinks he's thought about it, but is he really?

SPEAKER_02

I like that line. I love the Lottie and the faiths of just like the women who align themselves with really like big character men and are just like they think they're not about you. I am not intimidated the tiniest bit by you. It's so good.

SPEAKER_01

Uh immunity challenge with a monkey fist and uh some puzzles.

SPEAKER_02

They really cocked that up. They do, they don't know their way around a monkey fist. Yeah. Yeah, you'd thrive. Loop it up first. Yeah, you need the you need and you need the the jiffy lube for the monkey fist, don't we? No.

SPEAKER_01

Blanche does a victory dance for Baron. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

And nearly caused a 5.0 earthquake.

SPEAKER_01

That was almost a Samoan like title wave. Yes. There was tsunami warning bells. Uh so bounty back to Troy Bull. Um Mark reassures Caleb that they're getting Rich out. Uh, but they want to split on Sal.

SPEAKER_02

Can we just talk about why Rich is so beloved by everyone?

SPEAKER_01

Thank you. Oh my god. Can we just no, how big is the dick?

SPEAKER_02

It must be huge.

SPEAKER_01

So glad you brought this. Firstly, is Rich fam? Like our fam?

SPEAKER_02

I know what you mean. Like, and I've thought deeply about this, and I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01

Must be packing or something. It has to be. He has to be.

SPEAKER_02

So many people they're trying to save him. I think Rich is like going far and deep and potentially win a vibe. I think he's got a big one. I hope not. I just don't find him quite boring.

SPEAKER_01

I find him really boring. And do you know what I don't like? I think it's from being in an office environment and that CEO like nothing talk where he they like say a lot, but they they're saying nothing. It's like LinkedIn M-dashes. It's oh my god, he does so much of that. Whereas metaphors and shit, you know. We're all just it's just like when we pack up our bags at the end of the day, and blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_02

I'm like, and he was on the bottom of both every tribe has been on, he's been on the bottom, and everyone's like, okay, he's obviously not that good. Like, let's just be real for a second. Yeah. So I mean people are obsessed. I'm confused why everyone's like, we have to save rich, we have to save rich. Um, I'm gonna give up my immunity for rich, we're gonna throw the challenge to save rich.

SPEAKER_01

Of like, who the fuck is rich?

SPEAKER_02

Literally, where are the pictures? How big is the dick? We say this time and again on this pod, it always comes down to it. Or it didn't happen. We'll check the forums after this.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

The joke is I already have. There's nothing. There's nothing. There's nothing.

SPEAKER_01

Obviously, there's nothing. Damn. Thanks for the update though. No, I don't have to say. You can always count on me. So well, this was bullshit anyway, because like they were talking about who they're gonna vote, but then this tribal, I'm not even gonna bore you all with it because we get to tribal. Yeah, and tonight we're doing something a little different.

SPEAKER_02

Non-a limb, which you could see coming because they really didn't give like a lot of um you know context for the votes.

SPEAKER_01

A tad confusing. Yeah, but like when it was happening later, yeah, it made sense. But at this point, I was like, sorry, what the fuck is happening? Three people. Three people of a tribe of six.

SPEAKER_02

So, like, literally, just if you get a vote, you cooked.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Sending three people to Redemption Beach.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, not Redemption Island, very different.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, boo, because this um tribal was gonna be good. There was actually there was shit going down.

SPEAKER_02

And poor Keely gets really fucked over for this because she I mean she was Queen Bee with fingers in parts. Absolutely, and you could see even like that with the next vote, her name didn't come up once. Yes, you know, they I mean, I have faith she's gonna uh, you know.

SPEAKER_01

I hope so.

SPEAKER_02

I hope she goes far. I think it's you know, when you know that your three people, half the tribe are gonna be going to Redemption Beach, and you need to compete in a challenge to win your way back in the game. Okay, I'm voting for the person that I think I can beat. Who cares about alliances? Half this tribe is gonna be gone. Alliances don't mean anything. I agree. Who can I beat?

SPEAKER_01

You're right, it becomes just down to that, and I don't know. So you vote you just put a vote on Kila Spark.

SPEAKER_02

No, they the that they they time they time all of these twists and advantages before the game starts. But are you talking about producers? Yeah. No, they would that yeah, it's it's timed well before, so they know that like on this episode they have this.

SPEAKER_01

It shits me when we don't get the tribal. It's sad. Uh but anyway, so Sally, Caleb, and Keely end up at Redemption Beach.

SPEAKER_02

What's good though is that when you people who have been voted out in this way, sometimes in non-alims, sometimes people say, well, they you know they were voted out, they don't deserve to win. But this is like so not a real tribal that none of those three have any like mask against them for being voted out. So that is I I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01

Look, I appreciate that they're trying something else. Yes, it it felt trying new things. It felt new. I was like kind of into it, but but also I was a little bit frustrated and confused by it. But hey. Hey, I like the next bit. This bit uh the choosing the three people is a bit whatever, but the two people going to a random tribal without votes.

SPEAKER_02

I actually kind of liked that because they're being punished for being voted out, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But they're still in the game. Yeah, I didn't escape that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, agree.

SPEAKER_01

The little challenge to when you weigh back in is kind of boring. Yeah, and that looks so hard. I would say that. Yeah, should we just jump straight to that? I mean, Caleb finds a key and then we find out there's a hundred keys, yeah, and then Keely finds the real one, she wins an advantage, which means nothing anyway.

SPEAKER_02

No, but if Sally got it, who knows? Maybe that would have changed. True. And she gets the vote, Caleb doesn't.

SPEAKER_01

This challenge was fucked.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And in the rain, and this little seesaw, very hard, little pegs, so hard. Impossible. Impossible. But yeah, Caleb um earns his spot back in the game. What do you think of Caleb? So I truly cannot stand Caleb. It's like he's not for me. His energy is frustrating to me through the screen. I can only imagine what it's like.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

This is the best day of my life. But that the volume actually, like quite disturbed by that. But I think By like how accurate that was? Yes.

SPEAKER_02

And how unpleasant it was to witness it. Faith and Mark, this episode were just like, you could tell when he won his way back, they were just like, okay, do you want to just like go up to the shelter? This sucks. Yeah. No one wants to be around him. They didn't want to be around him. Is that the thing? They always need those kinds of characters.

SPEAKER_01

And then at the final travel, he's like, I'm actually real chill.

SPEAKER_02

But I think he he's quite insecure. Because you could see in a previous episode when they needed him to do the split vote on Sally, that we cut to a confessional of him saying, They always want me to, you know, be the split vote or never included in the plan. They just tell me to do their dirty walk and no one listens to me. And he's the kind of player that you get every season that is just people probably correctly estimate him, but just you know, underestimate him in his mind. He's not he's not that strategic, he's not that much of a threat, he's not good at the game, so we're not going to include him in these votes and just tell him what to do. And he gets really upset by that and will probably blow up his own game as well as others. But all you need to do is just make him feel important, make him feel like his decisions are being heard, but it tends not to happen because he's so shit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and it's it's he's very annoying. But look, good, I think good casting in a way, because he's like a he's a kooky. It's a good balance. He's a kooky character. Yeah, I mean I'm I'm enjoying that part of it, I guess, but then sometimes it's just the loud, like I I don't like that that volume. No, seriously, I'm not your ears. Like, it could just your little nana ears. You can hit the the crew on set would be like fuck man, like these mics getting fucking cooked.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah. He's a loud boy. So a little occasional cut to him with like a really energetic showy, it's very showy.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

But you know what? We we sometimes need that kind of energy, you know, balance throughout the world.

SPEAKER_01

Unfortunately. No, we um she's like uh Faith. All right, we're at bounty, you gotta have faith. Three people back, you gotta have faith. Faith's like, I don't know about Mark. This is the beginning. Of the Anthropith because she starts being like, Mark's under restorating me, I'm sneaky and I know what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_02

And I was like, I'm pretty sure he knows exactly how you feel about him.

SPEAKER_01

They did a good job though of because I don't know. The start of this week and like even last week a bit, they were editing in this way where I was like, oh no, is Mark gonna like get voted out by these divas? I I literally thought it was gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02

No, I I thought it was I I I thought it was Mark was gonna clock to them and they were gonna turn on each other, but I thought it was gonna be like Keely. I was really concerned about Keely because I thought Mark and Faith are so strong that you know they they you know Faith wants to take out one of Mark's minions, you know, Mark wants to take out one of their minions in Sally, and I thought maybe it's Keely is like that, you know, Faith's ride or die. Yeah, yeah. But without fa without Keely, maybe Faith doesn't turn on Mark so soon, and that's where he was gonna go. But he went straight for Faith, which I think was.

SPEAKER_01

This episode, by the way, for those wondering, is called Sitting Little Wet Sad Ducks.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, Sally said that at Tribal. I remember that was iconic. Yeah, cute.

SPEAKER_01

So there's only three people on this fucking tribe. They idol hunt, and then Mark fucking finds an idol. Yeah. Which was Slay. Go, Mark, friend of the pod. We love you. Um Is he actually a friend of the pod? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Ah would you have him on?

SPEAKER_01

Sure. Okay. Well Mark he's he mu Mark knows the door is open. Um but no loads of refusal. He's never come on because I think he was scared that. Oh, well, you know, he's in under contract. We we have too much fun on this pod, and he was probably talking to the casting producers about this show. So Mark, come on when it's all said and done.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, when your NDA expires, that goes to no excuses. That goes to everyone currently under NDA. As soon as that expires, slide into the DMs. Yeah, the doors open, we'll be waiting on all fours.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

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Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

Will it? What?

SPEAKER_02

Sorry, I'm talking for you. That's just me.

SPEAKER_01

We get this redemption challenge. We've talked about that. At Beeren, uh, the beauty and the bros talk about throwing. So this is like throw off the throw off.

SPEAKER_02

I know, and I get sick of it. This often happens around this time because people after TribeSwap, the alliances uh have, you know, people going into merge are really counting numbers. They're they're thinking, okay, if we merge tomorrow, what are the numbers? Who is on how would I get a majority? So now they're like, the best way I can control that is to throw the challenge, go to tribal, and make sure that I whittle down not my alliance's numbers. And it happens every season, and I'm I hate watching throw challenges, and I know you like that.

SPEAKER_01

I mean too, I think it's great. It's so strong. What I like more than one tribe throwing is when both tribes try to throw that. For me, he's like Christmas. And we kinda got that, almost got that. I don't know. Did we think we did that? I think we did get that, but Simon was just like Simon cannot throw, because he's especially when it was him being big man on campus with the coconuts.

SPEAKER_02

But no one he was taking holding it up, and there was no there were he had yet to receive a nut in his hole. And Mark only got three nuts. Mark? Mark got three nuts in his hole.

SPEAKER_01

Three nuts, and he was like, But he was Oh my god, so many nuts! But he was And I'm like, Mark, you can take a lot more nuts.

SPEAKER_02

We've seen it. He but he was doing the prep work, as we know. He was preparing for those nuts. So he was So when his hole was empty, stay with me. And ready to take nuts. When it was empty, he was like pretending to be all sore and tired, like, oh no, like I'm only gonna be able to take a few nuts.

SPEAKER_01

He was he did before the nuts near the hole. He was pretending that he couldn't hold it. Just so you guys know, I've not done this much before. I'm pretty r I'm nervous, I'm a little rusty. Yeah. Um I haven't taken a nut in a while.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And my little arms are and Simon was just waiting and ready.

SPEAKER_01

He was he was and JLP was watching from a hotel room going, say not poor JLP. And Goldman's just there letting all these great jokes go down the gurgler.

SPEAKER_02

Why aren't we producing GG?

SPEAKER_01

Or hosting. Imagine if you and me were the hosts of Australia Survivor. It'd be an MA reading. Imagine. Yeah. The readings would be even worse. We wouldn't be able to um impartially do it. Like we would be at tribal and we'd be like, Diva, we'd be like, she's got an idle bitch.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and it'd be like, all the girls, you're now aligned, you're voting together.

SPEAKER_01

And we're gonna workshop the Brock and Alliance names. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You're the witches, sister wives, the cunt, that is what your alliance name is, and you have to say it every episode.

SPEAKER_01

The Nutbusters. Yeah, I like it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so I successfully throws. Yeah. But we didn't get a confessional of him saying he threw the challenge, which I found interesting. Did we? Was I not paying attention to that?

SPEAKER_01

We just saw that incredible nutwork, and it was just like we could tell that Mark had successfully thrown it.

SPEAKER_02

He was performing it.

SPEAKER_01

He was faking it. He was NIDA fucking like graduating. VCA. Oh, so good. So this is the beginning of the end for Faith. She's talking to Mark, she totally I don't know if she was like likes playing with fire or something, but she pretty much is like, ha ha, yeah, like we're having fun, aren't we? Until I fucking like take you out of the game. Ha ha ha. She loves baiting him. And he's like, ha ha, yeah, so funny. And then in the back of his mind, he's like, Wow. What?

SPEAKER_02

Like, clearly, he's not as secure in the relationship as she is. And she should, that's her job as an alliance mate, but to pick up. And she gave it away.

SPEAKER_01

But then I think she was being too flippant. She was like, she forgot that she wasn't just with the girlies. Mark successfully disguised himself as one of the girlies. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And she's loves to do.

SPEAKER_01

And it's a good tactic because she was comfortable enough to spill the tape.

SPEAKER_02

And she also was so confident that when it came up to a Faith versus Mark book showdown, she was confident she would come out on top. Um but you won't be able to get it. And we see we see this with a l we see this with alliances. Oh, we should have talked about that documentary at the start. Anyway. I am I've talked about that documentary. Anyway, we'll talk about it after. Sure. Um I just don't think documentary subjects should be producing their own documentary. Anyway. Agreed. Ugh, whatever. Um, but when we have an alliance like Mark and Faith where it's two really smart people, they're too smart for their own good because they know that eventually they're gonna go for each other, and they know that the other one knows that, and they know that they know, that they know, that they know, and they just get so in their head and so paranoid that they're like, oh well, if they're gonna take me out at five, I need to take them out at six, and they work backwards and backwards, and then all of a sudden we haven't even made merge and is taking out his number one ally.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. And if the banter she was trying to do of like, ha ha, yeah, we're gonna go each other. Yeah, that's what you do when you've taken out everyone else and your alliance is all that's left. Yes, almost all that's left. That's when you're allowed to do that. But she was doing it like pre-merged.

SPEAKER_02

But she but well, I think I think what I mean, yes, she shouldn't have gone in on Mark, like, you know, making those jokes. But at the same time, she was just like, why the hell would we go for each other when it hasn't even been merged? She wouldn't have even thought that Mark was gonna do that. And maybe that's what Mark he was like, this is a live opportunity.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, true. You're right, they both it was the ghosts. I'm gonna blame the ghosts. The ghost the ghost of the island. Mark is haunted, he's still haunted. Love this story. Valeria was in his ear. This is a multi-week story arc of these ghosts. Love, love this. Yep. Flashbacks, everything.

SPEAKER_02

Ghost Australia streaming now on Paramount Plus. That's a cross promotion that they're doing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we also get Mark's wife in here. Shout out to Mark's wife, hello. Hi, Mark's. Are you mad? Yeah, she's stunned.

SPEAKER_02

Uh I Mark would have a hot wife.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, she's hot. Uh she told him, be ruthless out there. Yes. So let's go, baby. And he's like, let's fucking do it. So he goes to Kayla. Shall we do faith? And he's like, This is the best day of my life. And I will not do that again, I promise. Thank you. But he said that so many times. It's not gonna be it's not on merch. Is he gonna put that on merch?

SPEAKER_02

I don't he's gonna put it on merch. Right. You know what?

SPEAKER_01

You don't watch maps, do you? But there is oh my god. There is merch talk. Finger bang merch.

SPEAKER_02

Girl.

SPEAKER_01

I you can make merch. The girlies know.

SPEAKER_02

You can make merch when over two million viewers are watching every episode.

SPEAKER_01

When they are on maps.

SPEAKER_02

With exactly. Strain and survivor is not a good one.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you can't make this is the best day of my life merch, but he might.

SPEAKER_02

Keighley, who is undoubtedly a friend of a pod, absolutely love her, has like 300 Instagram followers. Does she? Yeah, it's like we need to change. Yeah, everyone go follow Keely on Instagram.

SPEAKER_01

Well, this is where she begins her counterfeiting journey by making a fake idol, which I loved.

SPEAKER_02

I th it loved it. It literally was like the idol, though. She's so crafty. Do you think it looked better than the idol? Do you think it actually like is an idol and like no one found the clue? And so maybe they just like didn't tell her.

SPEAKER_01

Fucking, I don't know. It was giving cookie idol. But it was literally like what the idol is, just without the little string on it.

SPEAKER_02

I reckon it 100% is a good one.

SPEAKER_01

These players are savvy now. If it doesn't come in the box, there needs to be a note confirming that. It's like a laboo-boo. It needs like a certificate of authenticity.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. But sometimes they'll do like there's an idol at tribal, but it's like part of the thing. So, but I she needed, yeah, some kind of scroll to confirm. I reckon I actually I'm an idol truther. I reckon that was a real idol. Yeah. Kiwi, Queen.

SPEAKER_01

What the fuck happens now? Oh, we get an immunity challenge. Oh my god, we're still we're not in a tribal. Yeah, we're at tribal. Yeah, let's go tribal. So at tribal, uh, there's a thunderstorm.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. That's very dramatic. The storms are ruin, just like and we get the squid game music.

SPEAKER_01

It's like ho. It was very like that. Um It was scary, suspensive. And we get a tie, which I love.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, but obviously as soon as the tie came up, you knew that the faith was going because they Yeah, because you knew.

SPEAKER_01

So what happened? So I thought Mark had not gone through with his blind side plan, the faith, but it was Richard. But he did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, no, that he he did. Yeah, all the boys were in on it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. No, but it was Rich who voted sell the first time. Yes. Which I was shook by. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

I Well, no, it's because Caleb, they wanted to split the vote in case someone hadn't. And then okay. Also it went according to plan for them. It all went according to plan. Right, right, right, right. Yeah. I was just watching and being like, It was always a split vote. What the fuck's going on? It was very unfortunate.

SPEAKER_01

And then Surprised we didn't get a reaction from Keely. Faith was a good spot. She goes, Yeah, she was. Oh, but f from at first we got this don't take me out to Caleb anymore. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that was. And she just she didn't react. She just moved on straight to Rich. She's that's why she's so good. She's like, I'm I'm not wasting my energy on someone on like this idiot. Yeah. Go straight to Rich. But we didn't get a reaction from Keeley about all of this. No. Hopefully next episode, but like we're a merge.

SPEAKER_01

It's the Keeley show next week. I hope so. But then we get this iconic moment where um Faith on her way out goes to Mark, you should have voted me out when you had the chance. And he goes, I do.

SPEAKER_02

I did.

SPEAKER_01

Ah, yeah. But they were there was actually a lot of great lines here, but they were all whispering while they were hugging. I was like, guys, I know it was television. It was a subtitle. Let's like come on.

SPEAKER_02

Project. I think Faith would secretly be pleased that she went out now because she gets to fly home and be with her like 15 children and homeschool and whatever. Whereas if she got voted out early merge, she has to like sit through like three and a half weeks of the jury of watching these idiots play. Like she doesn't, she has no interest in being on the jury. Excited for her to next week? Yes, very much excited. I'm excited to see how Keely does. I think if she plays it right, she could. Yeah, I'm just I'm she has zero allies. Like I'm really sorry.

SPEAKER_01

I reckon her and Mark might like make good or something. I feel like that could be an option. Now the faith is gone.

SPEAKER_02

But then Mark's gonna be with the returnees, they could be big shields. I think they're gonna start to kind of weed out.

SPEAKER_01

Returne's gotta be out soon. I reckon maybe even the first.

SPEAKER_02

But all three of them are gonna really try and keep all of each other around because they know exactly like if one goes, like it's such a big shield. Yeah. But yeah, who do you want to win?

SPEAKER_01

Um at this point I really love Keely as a character. Yeah, she's gonna be a good thing. Obviously, I'm super biased, but I would love Mark to win. Um I don't know. I'm just kind of going with a yeah. I honestly forget that it's like a game.

SPEAKER_02

I know I know you do. I'm just watching it for like the silly bits, the the the throwing drinks.

SPEAKER_01

Come, Freedom, what do you think? Freedom Queen's Freedom. Who do you want to win? She's like, oh. She doesn't want to give a fuck with the team.

SPEAKER_02

Who do you want to win? Uh yeah, obviously love Keely. I would love to I think if she wins, like my god, what a journey through merge that she would have. Um Brooke, I think, is amazing. I would love any of the returnees to win. Yeah, honestly, yeah, and Simon would be beyond iconic.

SPEAKER_01

But I don't think we're gonna get that. I don't think we're gonna get stopped in winner edit.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think any of the returnees are gonna win. I agree. Um unless it's like one of those because sometimes Australian Survivor makes their winner really obvious that you think, oh well, like Mark, like obviously Mark's not winning because he's such a big threat for it. Yeah, Cayley or Ferris, like they were just so dominant, and you'll say, well, obviously they're not winning, they're getting a downfall edit, but maybe it is really just a winner edit. Um you think, God, how could Mark make it to the end? But Book and Simon are more physical threats. Yep, yeah, we shall see.

SPEAKER_01

Well, thanks for coming on the pod this week. Bye bye.

SPEAKER_02

Bye.

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