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The Cringe is Real
Big Brother Australia - 2025 Week 4 Part 2 (w/ Hans)
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Gay Christmas has come early folks, HANS is on the pod and honey does she have a lot to say about BBAU 2025. No housemates are safe from these reads, plus the gals chat Housewives, OG BBAU and more! Sam and Hans smash through the season in an exclusive taste of life behind the paywall, and if you want more BBAU content head to Patreon or Apple Subscriptions.
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SPEAKER_00So sorry about this. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03Welcome to the Cringes Real. Hans, how are you doing?
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, Sam, I would not want to do this with anybody else. How exciting and what an adventure. Oh my god, what a week.
SPEAKER_03Honey, what a fucking week. I tell ya.
SPEAKER_02Can we I know you can see it? I am I'm in mourning. I know I I still look amazing, but I am in mourning. I mean, why? Why would they get rid of, frankly, the prettiest person on television? I mean, you know, if I wanted to see a house full of ugly people, I could watch question time, Sam. You know?
SPEAKER_03I know. Look, I thought you might be in a funeral outfit, but I feel like this is what you would wear to a funeral.
SPEAKER_02So well, I would. Can I just share it with you? It's a friend of Las Vegas. It is, it's myself. I mean, this, and this is what I would wear to a funeral because I think if anything, a mourning period is making it about yourself.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Don't agree, Sam. I know we all have friends like that, Polly.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, so much to discuss. But yeah, look, I'm pissed. So much. Here's the Vinny's exit. Not only is he now gone, but literally just after we finally get someone taking down that fucking loser, Ed, who I hate so much. Finally.
SPEAKER_02Ed, oh, he always kind of looks like he's a bit frowny, doesn't he? He's like he's always kind of a bit yeah, yeah. And after all the haircuts as well.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god. No personality um at all on him. But before we jump into BBAU and this train wreck of the fucking season, um how long? How are you doing? What's going on in your world?
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, Sam, I'm I'm doing well. We've just I've just finished the national tour that started, can I say, on election night. That's how long this tour. I know it's been longer than Irene's Farewell from Home and Away. I mean, it's just you know, they they milked the shit out of that, didn't they? We love a bit of Lynn Magranger, but they got their money's worth out of Irene this year, Channel 7. Um, so we yeah, we finished two weeks ago. Uh, and now I'm just kind of, you know, I'm easing in to the end of the year. I still have a few more gigs. I'm on a ship before Christmas on the carnival cruise. Have you ever been on the cruise?
SPEAKER_03Look, I have. Which one? I've been on a debaucherous gay cruise in Europe called La Demonse. Have you heard of that one? No, but I like the sound of that. That's honestly. Yeah, La Demontse. You should you should actually get on that one. We had um, who did we have? We had Pam An as our entertainment.
SPEAKER_02So look. Okay. Well, I you know I would have much preferred you. Most people do these days, but that's all right. We'll have a bit of the Pam Man.
SPEAKER_03Where's your cruise going?
SPEAKER_02Vanuatu.
SPEAKER_03Oh, stunning.
SPEAKER_02Yes, which look, um all I remember as Vanuatu is remember it used to be it used to be the prize on perfect match. Remember at the end, they're like, you are off the beautiful Vanuatu. And I got there the first time I ever went there, and it's not quite what you expect. No, no, no, it's a beautiful place. And a great tax haven, Sam, you know, which is which is essential in my opinion.
SPEAKER_03But it's a straight, it's a straight cruise. There will be children on board.
SPEAKER_02Well, they won't be at my show, but it is it is a straight cruise. Well, I mean, you know what? They start straight. And then I think when they come to my show, Sam, something happens. You know, there's there's a little metaphor about spaghetti and boiled water that I'd like to make, but I wouldn't be so crass. Not during the day. Not during the day, Sam.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god. I look, I'm a huge fan of your work here. Uh, I've seen many of your shows at Adelaide Fringe over the years.
SPEAKER_02Wait, are you an old Adelaide boy?
SPEAKER_03No, but um me and my partner, we used to always go over for the fringe. Wouldn't miss it.
SPEAKER_02Um, the time of the year to be in Adelaide, honey.
SPEAKER_03It's true. And I do from time to time whack on your best of got talent clips. Like, literally, the funniest thing on YouTube is you just like mouthing back at Mel B. I like that's rent-free in my mind.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, but you see, Sam. Okay, I have I've got it here. So wait a minute, let me just get it.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02Sam, I really okay. When I say, when I say I'm a Spice Girls fan, I mean I've got this on hand.
SPEAKER_00Oh I'm telling you something.
SPEAKER_02And this is actually the second one I've got. The other one's still in the box that she signed. So can you imagine me having to go on stage and they're like, we've got an idea. Why don't you do Spice Up Your Life? And I'm like, oh my god, I'm doing Spice Up Your Life in front of a real life spice girl. You know, that was it literally was heaven.
SPEAKER_03And she fucking loved you so much. Like, I love just watching she like she quite wasn't quite sure how to take you at first. And then it just one day she's like, Oh, I'm on board. This is everything, and it was beautiful to watch.
SPEAKER_02I think uh, yeah, look, uh, that seems to be the reaction to most people who see my show. They walk in going, What the fuck is this off about?
SPEAKER_00Are you still in touch with Mel?
SPEAKER_02Look, every now and then on the social media, there'll be a little click or a little DM, little reaction. Sometimes I will hear from a bit of the Hardy Cloon, sometimes I will hear from the Howie Mendel. Uh I I look, I don't hear from Simon as often, but he did look, he did send um me. I had a significant birthday in the last year, 21 of the 10.
SPEAKER_0321, yes.
SPEAKER_02And he he sent me a beautiful video message, which which was actually very lovely. You know what, Simon? He he's actually a good guy. Uh, people are always asking me what's he really like, and uh I often tell them what he's really like, Sam. No, but he he thinks like a TV producer, you know? So he's he knows that he's the pantomime villain, and you know, once you kind of understand that, you can have fun with him.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but he's a good yeah, oh he set the he set the whole mold for that whole format of you know the cranky judge, and then what we got Dico Who's coming back to our screens next year for the traitors?
SPEAKER_02I can't wait to see the traitors. Well, you know, I'm still I haven't seen the Alan Carr oh series yet. I know I need to watch it. It's good, yes, yes, because that was a good cast, very good cast. Wasn't it rare to see a celebrity show with celebrities on it?
SPEAKER_03Doesn't happen here much though, that's for damn sure.
SPEAKER_02Well, though, look, we've and now we've sent away little Bobby Irwin. He won't be back.
SPEAKER_03Fly is probably got one more of the contract. Yeah, one more of the um uh get me out of here, and then she's obviously ballet. Yep, I reckon. Bigger and brighter.
SPEAKER_02I think Mama Terry's got that shit stitched up, honey. She's no fool.
SPEAKER_03Where do you reckon's next for little Bobby?
SPEAKER_02Uh look.
SPEAKER_03I it's it's not only comments, unfortunately.
SPEAKER_02But no, uh look at look, I mean, he do very well there. I mean, I'd pay just to see the feet. Yeah, uh, I do uh the Irwins, I it's very hard to say because I don't think I really want to say what I want to say because you know they've got a lot of people defending them.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's like speaking elegant.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they're like Swifties.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, true. You don't want to upset the fandom.
SPEAKER_02I don't, but I I am a little bit on edge whenever I see them. I'll say that. I don't know, the whole family. It's a bit I don't know, I don't want to see a cult like the well they never did get that stingray, so you know.
SPEAKER_03Still at last um that happens. We're gonna talk Big Brother, which I'm so excited about. Are there any other reality shows that you get around?
SPEAKER_02Salt Lake City. I'm watching a lot of at the moment, Lisa Balo.
SPEAKER_03Who's it I'm obsessed with Lisa Balo.
SPEAKER_02Who's my favorite? Oh god, okay. You know what? This is the thing I think about a really good housewives is there should be something to hate about everybody on the cast, don't you think? Absolutely. I don't know. I still have a soft spot for a bit of the bad weather. I know they're they're uh not popular at the moment, but I think uh you can't go past in terms of the MVP.
SPEAKER_03Mary.
SPEAKER_02Let's be honest.
SPEAKER_03No, Mary is killing it.
SPEAKER_02And and then and she's reopened her church.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, her cult or church, however you choose to do it.
SPEAKER_02They'll be maybe they'll be heading to Utah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I can't wait for that um documentary to come out about her.
SPEAKER_02Can I ask you though? Did you get your meet and greet tickets this week for the pretty mess?
SPEAKER_03I did get some tickets. I didn't get the meet and greet ones, but I am gonna I am gonna see Miss Erica Jane here at Mary's, isn't she? That'll be fun here.
SPEAKER_02Uh that'll be good fun. She's doing two shows. Oh. They've just had to put on an extra one. She's in demand. Hang on a minute. Melbourne, I've just seen you know who you're getting. Finally, it's happening.
SPEAKER_03Oh, Luan.
SPEAKER_02Life is a cabaret.
SPEAKER_03Cabaret, darling. She's coming. Are you coming?
SPEAKER_02You have to. I've only found out about it last night. I really need to.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. We need to make that happen. I know. I think you need to get a guest spot. Get on.
SPEAKER_02Sabon, Sabon.
SPEAKER_03I'm so excited. We're being fed with uh visits.
SPEAKER_02We are.
SPEAKER_03We need some salt lake gillies. I think all Whitney and Heather have been here. I want I want a Meredith Marks moment. I'm obsessed with her.
SPEAKER_02Did you go to the Teresa Whitney show?
SPEAKER_03No, I was a bit confused about what that was to be honest.
SPEAKER_02What they do. Yeah. Yeah, me too. I was like, but money is it?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that sounded like a bit of a mess, but who cares?
SPEAKER_02But as Al Retha Franklin would say, beautiful gowns. Beautiful gowns.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. No, I would pay just to see Meredith Marks take a bunch of Xanax and get on a flight, to be honest. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02Mean to and then and then scream at Brittany. Watch crazy rotations. Yeah. I don't understand how there's no footage from the flight. What the hell's that about?
SPEAKER_03Why wasn't production on the flight with rolling? It's like the Kathy Hilton in Aspen. The footage just disappeared, darling.
SPEAKER_02Play Michael Jackson, you F-word. Allegedly. Allegedly is what she said.
SPEAKER_03So dude. But again, that's another family you can't go, is the Hilton.
SPEAKER_02But to be fair, I've said that to a DJ.
SPEAKER_03You know.
SPEAKER_02And rightfully so. Rightfully so. Sometimes don't you just want to plug your own iPod in and go, put on some decent music, honey. People aren't dancing.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. Oh my god. Alright, shall we get into this fucking question at the end?
SPEAKER_02Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03Of a shot. How are you feeling about it overall? It's so it's back after years of you know having it butchered on other networks by Sonia Kruger and finally 10 of the 100. No, no, let's back on it.
SPEAKER_02I I do love the channel Sonia. I love Sonia herself. I think um, you know, look, we all make mistakes. I'll say that about Sonia, but you know, again, beautiful gowns, beautiful gowns, Sonia Kruger. But I am happy it's back on channel 10 because I will say it does feel like the olden days in terms of it still feels a bit budget, doesn't it? It's uh it feels like a bit the Shein version of Big Brother DC, which I kind of like. I'm like, I don't want it to be all polished and everything, I want it to be raw. I I can't believe I'm actually watching it though, because I really, if I met any of these people in real life, I don't think I'd be indeed to any of them except for Vinny. Even even though he is one or two years younger than me. Yeah. One or two years. You know, but I I mean, I Sam, I think when it comes to Vinny, you know, I I see there's a lot of similarities between us. Sam, I think uh I think it'd be fair safe to say that you know, I see a lot of myself in Vinny. And um, you know, on special occasions, maybe the opposite. Um, but no, I think I think Vinny is now a loss for the house because actually I thought he was the voice of reason in a lot of instances, you know, when um they had the big blow up with Jane, which I was watching on the live stream that night, and I don't I think that was the thing that got me hooked onto this season of Big Brother that I thought I'll just you know click into the live stream and see what this is about. And then the one time I click in was the big blow up with Jane. And can I say it got edited to hell on the later? Really? It it went on for about two hours.
SPEAKER_03Of Jane just spake the mouthing off about everyone.
SPEAKER_02It it was a little bit of that, but it was more Connor. It was really I it it was a little bit scary.
SPEAKER_03Connor's not getting any airtime like at all. Which I'm not bad about.
SPEAKER_02I'm not either, because you know, the broing and the breving, it's it's it almost sounds like Morse code at this point. It's just like you know, it's too much. It's too much for me. There was a moment, apparently, uh look, I've been checking at it, I've I've really d dived deep. I've been on the Reddits, I've been here, there, I've been everywhere. Apparently, he's been doing like some three-hour prayer session today. Co-Colling. Now, what's that about?
SPEAKER_03Oh apparently talking to himself, is it some kind of Holly like is he invoking the spirit of Holly back into the house through divine intervention?
SPEAKER_02I couldn't work it out if it's a big brother challenge, if it's he's having a breakdown. Maybe he's auditioning to be the host of I'm a celebrity, get me out of here.
SPEAKER_03I mean, yeah, look, he is one million percent playing up to the cameras because if you go on Reddit, they do let you know that he's Wollongong's biggest fuck boy. Uh, but he's telling us that he's like yeah, I know, right?
SPEAKER_02But he's letting us know that he's like, oh Revs, brokenhearted, and it's like I think they were using each other. I thought it was a perfect setup, you know. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out today or tomorrow that the whole thing was staged, you know, it's like that they were actually went in there to convince everybody or something like that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, Holly was tapped on the shoulder, she did not audition. Yes, I have learnt, which I love, and that explains her behavior, and it's why we needed her on the show to tell everyone that she's in fact better than them.
SPEAKER_02Um I mean, and then have you heard this business about she's friends with one of the girls from Maths and they don't talk to each other anymore? Well, she looks like a girl from Mass. She does, she's ready. I mean, that uh that's the the logical next sequel to this saga is Holly and Brev, channel nine.
SPEAKER_03Maps them up, maps them up, maps them up, totally, and she's got a bit of the Jamai quality as well, which I like. Oh that's why I liked her. I was like, she's just speaking, especially when she got how good was when she stepped out onto that stage and took the microphone, took the microphone.
SPEAKER_02Why you know I'm gonna say I love her, but points off the mail there because if Lord and Savior Wendy Williams has taught us one thing: never give up control of your microphone. Remember, there's compilations of Wendy Williams online where people have tried to grab a microphone.
SPEAKER_03I know I watch those when I'm not watching you on AGT. Um how do you feel about um Alana, the so-called mother of the house?
SPEAKER_02Uh I wouldn't be upset if she won. I know people have turned on her, but I you know what? She is a mother, and I think she has been a mother to this group, and unlike other people in the house, she hasn't, you know, tried to use her children to gang sympathy. Like oh, that's true. I'm doing this for my kids. I'm just a surfing girl. For God's sakes, change the record, Coco. You know, we get it, we get it. And let's be honest, three kids, 100 grand's not gonna go that far. So but also on the live stream, can I be honest? They they're all the boys are talking. There's a lot of gambling talk going on. If you click onto the live stream, they're like, what's your favorite game to play at the casino? Do you like a roulette? Do you like black chat? And it gets muted a lot. And I just think if one of those boys gets this whatever the prize money ends up being, and goes straight down the road to the whatever it is. What is it on the GC? Star? The star?
SPEAKER_03Star. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I think that's that's gonna be very heartbreaking, especially to Coco.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, look, I haven't been watching the live stream, and it sounds like I'm not missing out.
SPEAKER_02You're not missing out, and yet I can't get enough of it. Sam, what is that saying about my life at the moment?
SPEAKER_03It's it's you're waiting for you know that, you know, like the turkey slap moment to happen or something, you know, like for history to be I know we're all waiting for that, aren't we?
SPEAKER_02Just in life in general.
SPEAKER_03That's it's beautiful. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'm waiting for John Howard to come back on the TV and you know denounce the show. Wasn't that great? I thought they were happier times.
SPEAKER_03They were good times. We should just be denouncing just the general cheap vibe of the production.
SPEAKER_02No, no, keep it going, keep it going. But get keep it go. Why is it only going for a month? That's the other thing.
SPEAKER_03I think they're testing it to see if it's worth bringing back or not. And at this stage, I reckon it's a yes, but who knows? Would you ever go on it? Probably not. Not with this production. I don't like I feel like I feel like um I don't know. I feel like they this year they were sort of rage baiting with the casting by putting in, you know, these misogynists and stuff. Um, so I feel like I would take the bait and I would just get I'd get removed from the house for trying to like slap someone in the first.
SPEAKER_02Well, I mean, that probably would get you removed from the house. I think slapping's frowned upon these days. You know, go work, go broke, you can't even slap anybody and can't even slap what's going on.
SPEAKER_03Um Bruce, oh no, going on.
SPEAKER_02Yes, no, go on, Bruce. That's why I was confused. I know how you feel about you did mention you mentioned the misogyny part, and that led me to to Bruce. I think he's tempering his real opinions.
SPEAKER_03Hunter.
SPEAKER_02Don't you think? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I think he saw if Michael was still there, it would be like Trump and JD Vance in the house. You know, they would have taken over by now, and they would have been running.
SPEAKER_03Who does that make Jane?
SPEAKER_02Carolyn Levitt. Because I couldn't be defending them.
SPEAKER_03Yes, I can't believe they didn't get on. Because I was like, Jane, these are your people. Like partong the Trump stuff never came out with Jane. I'm devastated.
SPEAKER_02She clearly used it as part of a I'm gonna do this in the house, you know, to get onto the show. Otherwise, it wouldn't have been in her bio or anything. And if you have you been onto her Instagram, there's if you scroll back, if you scroll back, oh god, really? I'm really gone down the rabbit hill rabbit hole with this show, haven't I? I'm listening to myself talking, and I'm wow. But I have gone onto her Instagram and I've scrolled back, and there are a few things that um we'll put it this way, Sam. I don't think she's coming to see a hands show anytime.
SPEAKER_03She's like, Do you watch um OC? Is she like a Gretchen type? Is she liking things?
SPEAKER_02She'd be a little bit Gretchen y, she'd be a little bit uh Vicky Gangelson as well, I think.
SPEAKER_03Groovy granny.
SPEAKER_02She'd be a bit Kelly Dodd, let's be honest. She's screaming at the daughter.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02What about that? What about Kelly Dodd on on Instagram? Yeah. Poor Joe Lee.
SPEAKER_03But this week's been a real the the Bruce and Coco thing is absorbing all of the airtime. And I'm fucking bored. I'm bored.
SPEAKER_02I couldn't care less about those people, and I could not care more, honestly. I'm like, either you either there's a there's got to be a dancing duna moment, either there's got to be something that's gonna get everybody talking about. There is too much Karen, apparently. But you know, I mean none of us want to hear that while we're trying to sleep in a room full of strange or actually No, that does take me back. No, I I have been in that situation before. Once or twice.
SPEAKER_03I just cut like these people that were like, that's just disgusting. I'm like, do you know what show you're on? I don't know. I'm a bit like let them do it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. I in the earlier years, am I right in thinking they used to have two bedrooms?
SPEAKER_03I think they did sometimes. The house was huge back in the day. I feel like there was all kinds of and they had like the the shag pad or whatever. Like they had those if you won a prize, you got to like take someone to like a romantic, you know, and we had Jamie Brooksbury swinging around his big dick in there in the hot tub. Like, bring all that back.
SPEAKER_02Jamie, Jamie, Jamie. That was magnificent, wasn't it? Oh, there were so many wonderful memories that have suddenly come flighting back, Sam. Jamie, who is oh dear Flash Gordon, May R. I P.
SPEAKER_03Oh Gordon, Saxon. Oh, Saxon and Gretel getting it on Paco.
SPEAKER_02Saxon and Gretel, allegedly, allegedly. Like just nice work if you can get it, honey. Hello, good boys.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, we had good times.
SPEAKER_02Good times, happier times.
SPEAKER_03Um, how do you feel about our Tourette's king Connor?
SPEAKER_02Uh uh that uh look. It's not the Tourette's that's annoying me. It's his kind of self-righteousness. Yeah, you know, the self-righteousness, and this is right and this is wrong. I think the minute they put him into that kitchen, he became a monster, you know. It's like, well, I'm doing this. I think he has a bit of savior complex, you know? It's like I'm looking after you, so now I'm going to wag my finger and tell you what to do all the time. I will say there is one tick that he does that couldn't, it's when he does the teeth noise.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I thought you were gonna say when he goes like gay.
SPEAKER_02I'm on board with that. I love that.
SPEAKER_03Every time he says it, I'm like, yes, yes, you rang.
SPEAKER_02No, no, no. I think I have the you know when you react to people people who can hear eating, it's yeah, the chomping. The chomping. So I think that would be the thing that if I was in the house, I'd be like, oh but you know, I mean it's to rets, so what you know who he is. And I love that, I love that somebody has been put in the house with this, and they haven't made it, you know, they actually haven't made it a big deal, they haven't made it like he's you know, this the sideshow, or they haven't made fun of it, and I think that's that's great because you know, I that would never have happened on TV 20 years ago. Yeah. Um, so I think that's fabulous, but I will still vote him out.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I agree. I think it's like it was good casting. I think they were probably hoping for more from him. I certainly was at the start. Like, I don't know. I thought because he's an advocate as well, it's like a disability advocate. So I kind of thought, oh great, he's gonna school some of these people, which is what I wanted to see.
SPEAKER_02But don't say this, don't say that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, or so, or even just look, and I don't know if he hasn't or if it's just the edit, but I feel like we need to see more of those conversations on screen, or else what's the point of having him in there to just what laugh at him saying gay? Like, I don't know. I kind of I think I think you're right, it is a good thing that it hasn't been made into a sideshow thing, but I feel like we could have had an opportunity for you know some good chats about it. Can we just get Bruce and Coco fucking going, oh yeah, I don't know, I can't bloody kiss you, can I? Because my fucking kids are bloody watching. It's like, oh okay.
SPEAKER_02What else do you want to do? I mean, I don't want to see them bumping purses for God's sakes.
SPEAKER_03No. No.
SPEAKER_02Jeez, Coco. But I will say the thing that has annoyed me about Bruce, and I have put it up online, is we need to get some purple shampoo into that house. It's getting brassier and brassier, that hair. It's cry it looks like camel's piss at this point. It looks dehydrated. He needs a toner. Sorted out. Truly. Killing me. It's got worse as the weeks have gone on.
SPEAKER_03I know. And Vinny's gone now, so everyone's hair's gonna look shit.
SPEAKER_02That's everyone's hair, exactly. And you know what? They deserve to look shit out if they're gonna treat my golden boy like that.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. Uh, let's talk about my Lisa housemate Edward. I'm just like, what the fuck is this bloke doing there? What a waste of space.
SPEAKER_02I I have a feeling that we are about to see the downfall of Ed. I think that the outburst against Vinny, when in the same episode, they just showed Vinny talking to Emily saying, Oh, I don't care if Holly calls me fake. But if it was you or Ed calling me fake, people I care about, then I'd be upset. And then 10 minutes later, you've got Ed in the diary room ripping shreds off Vinny. I think he's about to have his ass handed to him, and I have to say, Sam, it's about damn time to quote Lizard.
SPEAKER_03Wait, yeah, because they do those exit videos and they're gonna get Vinny all riled up. Can't wait for that. But yeah, because I I've got to say, my favourite bit of BB editing this week was when they cut back to him bitching about Vinny. Yes! So good. They did it to Jane too, where it was like, yeah, as a woman, and now they're doing it to Ed in when Vinny. What did Vinny say? Like, have you ever expressed this opinion to anyone else? Never ever.
SPEAKER_02Never, never ever. I know forget that you're but you would forget, wouldn't you?
SPEAKER_03I mean, God I just think he's he's just a little bland little sookie baby, and I think he's just used to getting away with stuff like this.
SPEAKER_02Although I will say in the hotel challenge, he actually did a good job. I don't think anybody else could have been the better manager, you know. Like we couldn't have Bruce in that role. He did kind of keep it together, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I think even though he was very rude to everyone at all times.
SPEAKER_02He was seething, he was yeah, it was like pretty much throwing them a club sandwich. But uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I kind of loved that. I my friend who I was texting at the time was like, I'm ready for this hotel challenge to be over. I was like, I could watch four weeks of just this.
SPEAKER_03Oh, same. But it was fantastic. How anticlimactic, though, when they told them about the twist, and it was like, oh, well, you didn't have to be that rude. I was like, Oh, these people are so dumb, it's wasted on them. Anyway, uh, let's talk about my favorite producer. My favorite housemate is Emily.
SPEAKER_02Is it my favorite? Me too. I'd be happy if either Emily or Alana won. Yeah. I think Emily is lovely. I you know what? She's she's she is. I I feel like Emily and Alana at the end is a little bit reminiscent of Chrissy and Reggie at the end. You know, I would love to see a mother with the two of them, and it's a bit, you know, mother and daughter, it's a bit best friends, and I would just leave love to see them slay off these men one by one, like a dragon. But it's got to happen within the next three days because it's apparently finishing this weekend. See, it would have been amazing the next five weeks. I wish it was going to like Christmas Eve. I mean, wouldn't that be? Wouldn't that put, you know, the Carol's Sylvie Paladino trying to compete with the the finale of Big Brother? I mean, come on, channel 10.
SPEAKER_03Well, I looked up the first season was 95 episodes.
SPEAKER_0295 episodes. What are they think they're bloody prisoner or something? Jesus.
SPEAKER_03And this one is 25. So yeah, really shrinking the time frame. Yeah, but you're right, because they don't quite get into that next stage of battiness where they've been disconnected from the outside world. I love that.
SPEAKER_02And I think I think the actually the ride is not good, you know, when people are calling out into the garden. Because it is still like a bit of a connection to the outside world, and we don't want that. We want them to kind of forget that the cameras are rolling, you know?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but it is very Gold Coast, and I do like it when people just go, Oi, Bruce.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. You can't, like over the fence. I mean, that's kind of fun, isn't it? Yeah, that is very it's very um uh porpoise fit, I think.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I go see the big brother. Uh yeah, but Emily is killing it. Just her little the way she talks to Big Brother. I could watch that all day. She's like, Oh, poor big brother, you've had an eyeful, haven't you? Like, just like that was great. She's like a Chris Lilly character.
SPEAKER_02She is like, I mean, you've you've got Jermaine, and I think you've got a bit of Pat Mullens in Emily, you know. He is Pat Mullins. I wouldn't be surprised if Emily starts rolling around Australia. With I mean, that'd be a great way to spend a hundred thousand dollars, you know? Get your rabbit-proof uh what was the thing that she had, that little the cart that you know went along the band with her. That'd be fab. I'd love to see Emily doing that. But yeah, I I think Emily is Emily or Alana, I would be happy winning. I'd be really pissed off if it was oh well Bruce. I don't know if I'd be pissed off if it was if it was Coco.
SPEAKER_03I think people like I think Coco could win. I think it's between Coco and Colin. I think people really like Colin. People really like Colin. Yeah, and I get it. He's so like your infatuation with Vinny, I kind of have for Colin because I like a bit of a rough, a rough trade kind of like lad. That's kind of more my vibe. Vinny's too pretty to me.
SPEAKER_02Oh, you're not alone. Like I'm a bit ugly. Um, and they've said the same thing. They're they're all about the the Colin. I don't know. I've got something about the mullets, you know.
SPEAKER_03It's aggressive.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I love I love that we've now got a bisexual AFL player, but I think one thing we could do as a community is fix that hair. Let's be honest.
SPEAKER_03No, honey. Mitch does need some help. It's the front for me. I don't mind the the bit at the back. It's those like wispy bangs. The fringy fringy. No. We could do a whole podcast just reading everyone's hair.
SPEAKER_02Honey, I mean, is there enough gigabytes in the in the internet for that?
SPEAKER_03I don't think so. Oh my god, but now I am also hiding my mullet from you.
SPEAKER_02Um yours is an extreme. Yours isn't portrayed. Yours is dainty, you know? Yours is dainty. Colin is well, it's very well and gone, isn't it?
SPEAKER_03It truly, truly is. Um, shall we go back to Monday night? This was just after Holly had left, and she wrote a message with her Charlotte Tilbury eyeliner.
SPEAKER_02That's what that was. I wondered how she did that. Where did she she could only do it in the toilet, right?
SPEAKER_03Like where else is there?
SPEAKER_02And like, then this prison like writing of letters back in the day, Big Brother would hand you your ass for doing where's vinegar tips when you need a second prisoner reference I've made in this podcast. Can you believe it?
SPEAKER_03Chuck him in the chokey. Like, I want to see punishment. I want punishments on this show. They're getting away with absolute murder in there.
SPEAKER_02They are, yeah. There hasn't been any kind of punishment situation. That that's the one thing I'd bring back. I know people have said bring back the Friday night games situation. I don't, I don't know exactly. Bring back hot dogs. I'm happy with that. I would love hot dogs back on the screen. I think there's there's nothing wrong with a bit of hot dogs. I don't know. No, the like the Friday Night Lives. Now that was you know when they said Brie. I just think if you're gonna bring show like that back, bring back it's a knockout, you know? Yeah, Brie.
SPEAKER_03Talk about a hair transformation, Brie, Ama.
SPEAKER_02She Ivan, what's the last one?
SPEAKER_03I remember it was all I don't know, just back in the day. I remember it was all frizzy, and then when she came back into the house, she'd had like a full perm, and everyone was like, What the fuck?
SPEAKER_02I oh yes, because she got accidentally coming back to me. Yeah, yes. Did you go in the lead up to this? Did you start watching the old episodes when they were dropping them on YouTube?
SPEAKER_03No, but I want to go back and do that.
SPEAKER_02Like you know, I watched little bits of pieces of it, and I've got to say, we really Gretel Colleen did not get the flowers she deserved hosting that show was amazing. Just think, nobody had done that before. It was totally live. She, you know, she is she's no fool, Gretel Colline. I'll say that. Incredible, she's smart, she is great. I think Mel's been good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03She's got this week. Online this week. I've seen some people are on there going, controversial opinion, but Mel's a bit well.
SPEAKER_02I mean, let's let's be honest, honey. They didn't even give her a fucking roof, for God's sake. So she's not exactly it's not a level playing field, is it? Is what I'm saying. Gretel Kleen had empirotechnics and everything.
SPEAKER_03My favorite moment of Australian television history is Gretel Colleen waving her finger in that boy's face, being like, listen, mate.
SPEAKER_02That's another thing I watch regularly on YouTube.
SPEAKER_03I watch that more than I could.
SPEAKER_02You want to say that again?
SPEAKER_03You want to say that we've edited something? When I've worked on this show for six years.
SPEAKER_02You know what else you need to watch? There's a he doesn't he does an interview on Rogue Live the next night after that. Yeah. And he's still got the same attitude.
SPEAKER_03And it's like, and it's like we all know you kissed the farmer. Like, calm down.
SPEAKER_02Who wouldn't? Dave Farmer, delicious.
SPEAKER_03I know, right? And he's he's aged quite well. I've he's aged delicious.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Oh honey, farmer Dave, he's like vodka. He's ageless and tasteless. And you can tell him I said that, darling. We love you, Dave.
SPEAKER_03Farmer Dave. Farmer Dave. Oh my god. Uh so what happened next? Oh, then we get Holly's exit video, which so this Jane started the trend of in your exit video, you have to be a real bitch. And so Holly was like, Great, hand me the mark, or I'll take it myself. And then she went, who did she? She just decides to drop a fucking bomb on Coco.
SPEAKER_02But Coco, yes, yes, the girl on girl crime.
SPEAKER_03But this was like she because you know Holly's such a girl's girl, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So I feel like that was yes.
SPEAKER_02I think she was not seeing things in herself that she was accusing Coco of doing. Is is that what you're trying to say?
SPEAKER_03100%.
SPEAKER_02Glass something about a glasshouse or a log in my eye, or I don't know what else it says in the Bible, but yes.
SPEAKER_03I can guarantee Holly has no female friends.
SPEAKER_02Well, I mean, not ones that have been the maths.
SPEAKER_03No, yeah. Well, that's the thing if she's beefing with ex-math contestants. Look, the other pretty girl in the house, oh, surprise, surprise, she doesn't get along with. Okay, Holly. We get there's only room for you, darling.
SPEAKER_02We but did she get along with any of the girls? She did. She she kind of went alana. I mean, that was great. I loved when Alana was like, Emily thing.
SPEAKER_03Her thing, I loved that.
SPEAKER_02I mean, it wasn't what word for word, but you know, knew what she meant. Come on.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. What did she say?
SPEAKER_02Aren't I a great aren't I a great person? Look at her. She's so happy. She probably never got invited to a party. That was the gist.
SPEAKER_03And you know that's not gotten back to Emily still, which I think is lazy production. I think they need to somehow.
SPEAKER_02I think that's good of I no, because I I think well, yeah, actually, somebody should actually show her the footage. Yes.
SPEAKER_03It speaks to Alana's character. That's what I was about to do. She's a good person. Because I'd be like, TV-wise, you want to, yes.
SPEAKER_02TV wise, you want to TV.
SPEAKER_03You think they would just drop that clip, you know, in the house in a challenge. You can have uh this idea for free guys. Like, and then and then we get Emily that's that's what we need.
SPEAKER_02We need a moment of UK big brother. Yeah, give me my shoes back. You you want your shoes back? I'll go get you your shoes, you fat bitch. That's what we need. We need that moment. Yeah, we need somebody to say the quote, and then yeah.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, they're too nice.
SPEAKER_02I mean, there's not a Tiffany Pollard in the house or in Australia, let's be honest.
SPEAKER_03No, there's no no one is qualified to wear those shoes. I tell you that.
SPEAKER_02He's qualified.
SPEAKER_03But I feel like it's very Australian culture, isn't it? That on this show they never have conflict face to face. It they have to do it in Cap Confessional, and then we have to show it to them on these exit videos, which are riling everyone up.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely, I think so. And I but that that's the same with any of these re Australian reality shows when you compare them to I mean, look at the Australian housewives. They had bits of drama that you could tell was infected for the show, but you don't have somebody flipping a table calling somebody a prostitution whore, do you?
SPEAKER_03You did have Gina Liano wearing her stilettos on Andrea's $40,000 tennis court, though.
SPEAKER_02Well, I don't know. Maybe Olivia could go wash her vagina with her. That was a great line.
SPEAKER_03That that was see why would you say that? That was a great line. Bring back my girlfriend.
SPEAKER_02Good luck with your deck of cards. Good luck with your deck of cards.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god. No, Holly's interview was insane. I actually wanted the full, I wanted the full unedited two hours of her just going coconut.
SPEAKER_02You know, she went on a lot longer. You just know that that it's they said end talk and they were and then they left and came back popping in for overtime.
SPEAKER_03And they came back and she was talking about all the brand deals that she'd secured before going into the house. Like fucking. That was my favorite bit as old. She goes, Hey guys, a brand gave me these. How do they look on me? I was like, oh bitch. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02It's another world. It was another world for I mean, poor old Emily, having to listen to all of that, she'd be like, What? I'm a primary school teacher. What is a brand deal? Don't be ridiculous.
SPEAKER_03But Coco takes this quite well, like kind of, but then goes later and has a cry. Like, I think that it hurt, like it hurt her.
SPEAKER_02Well, I think Coco did see Holly as a friend. I actually do believe that. Even though, I mean, yes, she was she did say a few things about Holly, but I don't think they were unjustified things that you know Coco was saying. Um I just think Holly look, accountability is not the middle name there, is it, when it comes to their old Holly Young. Um, and maybe maybe, you know, she'll watch some of this footage back and reflect. But I don't have grand hopes for that either.
SPEAKER_03No, I don't think there's any there's a lot of self-awareness.
SPEAKER_02No, no, no, no, no, no. She'll watch it back and double down.
SPEAKER_03Oh, she'll watch it back and go, they have edited something. Uh uh.
SPEAKER_02You want to tell me that uh we've edited for six years.
SPEAKER_03We got this uh stupid twist where Ed got given ten points. Ten points. What the fuck? I give the most boring person in the house and on planet Earth ten points. And of course he's like, Oh, yep, look, uh, don't nothing against ya.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, nothing against you, but I mean, if he wanted to play nice, he would have just said they're both a threat to to the game, you know. Which is a copy of the thing. That would have been about anyway. And I can't believe they're allowed to say that. I know they didn't use that.
SPEAKER_03It used to be like, no, that's not a valid reason.
SPEAKER_02I loved watching them get say you want to burn them at a stake, you know, like that kind of thing. Yeah. I know, but now they're just it's there, it's yeah, and also the voice of big Big Brother's almost like their therapist now. And it I don't think it used to be like that. It used to be like he was somebody to be feared, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Which yeah, and now yeah, that's well, I mean, it's different times, darling. Apparently, now it's frowned upon to you know prey upon people's mental health. I mean, who would have thought that's outrageous?
SPEAKER_03Uh, so he what happens?
SPEAKER_02Vinnie, Coco, and Alana end up on the chopping block, but uh Holland saves Mumsky and because I did not think he would save Alana because let's remember it was Alana's fault that Holly even got nominated the week before because she saved who did she save the week before, but it meant Holly went up in the tally, and then Holly ended up getting evicted. Yeah, so I thought he was gonna get a bit vindictive there, but I think him saving Alana was actually a bit of a look how nice I am.
SPEAKER_03Oh huh. You know. And I think in that moment Vinny was like, Oh, I don't have any friends in this house.
SPEAKER_02I I would have loved if he saved Vinny that he'd be given, you know, a million points from Ed, and then you would have seen them going off all week.
SPEAKER_03Let like, let's be fully honest here. I feel like there is underlying like this narrative of like Vinny's this pretty young boy, he's trying to be nice, he took the 10k, and I think a lot of these kind of Anglo housemates are a little bit like, I don't know, this little cute wog boy's taking the money, and then they turned on him. That's kind of how I feel about it.
SPEAKER_02Uh, I definitely think that once he took the money, yeah, yeah, he was in the firing line. That combined with the Jane message, then I think I really think it was the Jane thing that snowballed this kind of effect. Like, you know, you just have to say it poisoned the water. He's fake. I'm like, what's the fake thing?
SPEAKER_03I'm like, no, he's just like, have you not met someone that has a million like cousins? Like, they're just like that. Yeah, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02Like, yes, yeah, yes, uh, they know how to plug in with different scenarios, yeah. And I'm I'm like Ed's one of his big problems was oh, uh, Vinny's too young to be giving this kind of advice. Well, how do you know, Ed? And isn't it hasn't it got to do with kind of life history? And you know, Ed's been giving a lot of relationship advice, and he's proudly said on the show that he's always been single, so and lives at home with his mother.
SPEAKER_03With his mum. Wow, which is the only relationship he's ever gonna have.
SPEAKER_02Um, well, there's that's nothing to sneer on. I mean, my mum still makes all my costumes, Sam. I mean, shout out it is it is more of a kind of reverse Britney Spears arrangement between me and my mum, but that's another story. She's under a conservatorship, and it's working out great for me.
SPEAKER_03Oh then we get the the Christmas task, um, which yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02This was I thought it was I I know, I thought it was stupid until the eviction because when that song started changing, I mean sinister, wasn't it? Honey, that is gonna go down as 2025's Molly from a country practice moment, you know? And then the music that they had playing underneath it, you know, when in the daily show. Evil. Evil! And then you really I mean, you really did feel sorry for Vinny. I mean, even if you're not totally in love with him and obsessed with him and been streaming his songs on Spotify, even if you're not bad, I think you still felt sorry for this boy who suddenly realized what was going on, and then the voice comes in. You've got 30 seconds to get out of the house, and then the last person you had to hug before he left, did you see, was Ed.
SPEAKER_03Just ripped that I he should have done a oh he should have done a yeah, exactly. I wouldn't have hugged it. Yeah, no, that was awkward as fuck because Ed just lied to his face moments before. I really hope before Vinny films his burn of an exit video, they like show him that package.
SPEAKER_02You know what I would hope? I would love that they do a nomination like soon, and that the only the person that gets to evict is Vinny. He gets to choose who goes. I would love that. That's a twist.
SPEAKER_03It it's never even been up.
SPEAKER_02We're working in production, we're working in production. I would love that because I knew you.
SPEAKER_03Oh, there was also a great part last night where they showed us Emily falling over about 20 times in slow motion.
SPEAKER_01Yes, that was a little bit.
SPEAKER_03We need a bit of that, you know. But also, what a bummer of a way for Vinny to go. Just in the first thing in the morning.
SPEAKER_02No fanfare. The boy, the one who's clearly gone into the show to be famous, doesn't even get the fan back to deal on mode, deal Vinnie.
SPEAKER_03Yes, I did see that clip floating around.
SPEAKER_02He was on the books, he's on the books. Yeah, you chose books, we chose looks.
SPEAKER_03So now that we're in the last few days of the show, who would you like to win and who do you think is going to win?
SPEAKER_02I would like either Emily or Alana, but I sadly think it's gonna be either Colin or Connor.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I don't think it's gonna be Connor. He hasn't had enough airtime to win. People love him. People love him though. Mm-hmm.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02And people, like you say, people love Colin.
SPEAKER_03I think it's Colin or Coco. Oh my, you're right, Alana could well. It's Alana's giving Chrissy Swan, isn't she?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. Kind of, you know, solid. She's not as funny as Chrissy, though. Chrissy was no, fuck no.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, Chrissy was great.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And then but yeah, I don't really give a shit anymore because Vinny's gone. Let's go. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03I know. I'm just like, let's let's wrap it up, guys.
SPEAKER_02Thank God it's not dragging me on for nine to five episodes.
SPEAKER_03I know, especially without um Colin. Do you think anyone's got a future in showbiz after this this season?
SPEAKER_02I definitely think we're going to see Holly somewhere.
SPEAKER_03Oh, definitely.
SPEAKER_02Just for the tenacity. Um, you know what? I wouldn't be surprised if we see the old Abiola somewhere if she can stay away to attend a meeting.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god. Wasn't that such a flop ending as well? Her story.
SPEAKER_02I know, I know. It's like I will say, you need to get on and hear Abbiola's music. She's actually a very good singer. Oh, she's got music too.
SPEAKER_03Oh god.
SPEAKER_02She's got music out there. Vinny's got music out there. Holly's got, you know.
SPEAKER_03What's Vinny's music?
SPEAKER_02I've got a deep dive. It's a little bit uh there's a lot of guitars involved. Oh look, I'll put it this way, it's not going to be singing sparse up your life to MLB. Uh it's a bit kind of edge sheerony, it's a bit like I'm in my feelings.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02I'm where is a birth.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, get one up. I'm sure he didn't try to, you know, have a moment on sing the songs? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I I think they were told not to because yeah, they've definitely gone in there, not allowed to plug any of their could have really helped.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I'd yes.
SPEAKER_02But that was wasn't that part of the whole thing, is we want real people. Okay, look at this. Oh, uh I mean, doesn't this say something? There's a song of their Vinny called Let Go of Me.
SPEAKER_03That sounds like something you say to your kidnapper. Not it looks great in the pictures, though.
SPEAKER_02I mean, he looks fabulous. Look at that.
SPEAKER_03He is too gorgeous for this earth.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but you know, that'll fade.
SPEAKER_03It sure will. Oh, Hans, darling, it's been such a pleasure having you on the pod. Thank you so much for joining me.
SPEAKER_02I can't wait. What show are we watching next, darling? What are we gonna do when this should be?
SPEAKER_03Come back anytime next year. I'll be doing the traders. Come on for that. That'll be fun.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely, absolutely. And just rate all their hairstyles.
SPEAKER_03We can rate Gretel Colleen's hair because I've seen in the promos it's needs a bit of work.
SPEAKER_02Oh, look, I will I won't hear a bad word against Gretel. I love, I mean, you know, it's a German name. What can I say about it? Exactly. I'm Gretel.
SPEAKER_03I think it was a gay sabotage.
SPEAKER_02But what do you mean? Gays aren't the visible it was Farmer Dave.
SPEAKER_03Anyway. Lovely things, darling. Yeah, it was a guy. I'll see you soon, Dom. Bye bye.
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