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The Traitors Australia - Season 3 Trailer (w/ Annabel Fidler)

Sam Cremean

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It’s a gay EMERGENCY! The Traitors Australia Season 3 cast has DROPPED and holy shit are we being fed.. from the reality TV garbage heap! Faithful diva with the best soft naturals going round, Annabel Fidler joins Sam to go through the cast and predict some insane fan-fiction theories about what is to come. A lot is riding on this Ten! Let’s not let Annabel down. The babes also touchdown on the Traitors multi-verse including UK Celebrity, Ireland and more.

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Intro

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This podcast was produced on the land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation.

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The content is hideous.

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Sorry about this. Oh my god.

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Hiya. Hiya.

Frida's TV Debut

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Baby girl. We're here. We're alive. We're doing it. We're doing it. We're exhausted, but it's a gay emergency, and we had to discuss this. The tree message you I was like, listen, doll.

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It's all pause on deck right now. Even Frida's ready.

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Frida is couldn't be readier. She was born ready for this moment.

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The cast.

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This cast is fucked up. But before we get into that, I need to tell you about Frida's TV debut.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, okay. Tell me, because you can't just tease that to me and then not give me all the graphic details. What was it? Silver screen, big screen.

SPEAKER_01

Well, look, we're starting small. We're starting in infomercial adjacent. Oh. Um, I believe it's some SponCon on some like Channel 7 show called like healthy and wellness or some shit. Um, but you will see Frida Winina Margarita with Dr. Kate of Bondi Vet and Real Housewives of Sydney Fame. Is it pink for dogs? Is that what she is? She does get fat shamed and teeth shamed.

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Oh my god, Frida, don't listen.

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She's like, how often do you brush your teeth? And looks at me and I'm like, who the fuck? How am I what? Brushing this dog's teeth.

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Dogs pay big money to get a fat ass like this, let me tell you. I agree.

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I agree. You're beautiful just how you are.

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Flawless.

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But yeah, so that was fun. Okay, I love that. Yeah, it'll be out, I think like early next month. You better believe I'll be milking that content.

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Let's get the movie poster. I want a huge cardboard cut out.

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We'll do a trade.

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Can we book out a cinema or a laugh?

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Yeah, yeah. We'll do like a meet and greet situation with Frida.

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Oh my god, please. Yes. I do. I think that's great.

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And so you are.

Annabel's Busy

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It's a busy time to be a trader because you are doing A hat with Puyah, which I'm listening to and loving on possibly the best season to ever happen, celebrity UK traders.

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Traitor's season has started early this year. And I am just gagged. Like we just had Trader's Island, which was perfectly watchable.

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I loved it. Mainly for the accents and oh, we haven't even debriefed on Ireland. We've not even debriefed on Island. Let's talk about what was his name? Ben.

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Oh, you are Ben.

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The things Ben did to me on the inside.

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You love them a little bit fascist.

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Yeah, I want I want like an angry straight man.

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I know. I know.

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I've been literally like I know. I listen to the podcast.

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I listened to the podcast. I've been listening to your oh my god, what is it? It's not made in Bondi, it's the Aussie Shaw coverage, and I'm just like, Sam, do I need to stage an intervention?

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It's so good.

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But yeah. Traders Canada starts next week. We've got Celebrity Traders UK.

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Are there celebs on this one of Canada?

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Yes.

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All or just like if you argue. They always do a few years. They're doing the like you got.

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Yes. Truly blessed. And then Celebrity

The Celebrity Traitors UK is Amazing

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UK traders is just the best thing that's ever happened to me in my entire life, and I could explode.

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The Alan Carr content is like we have to keep we have to pause when watching because we are just like screaming. We are like the the wrists are a limp in our household during Alan Carr on screen.

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I could watch Alan Carr and Tom Daly bicker in the way only besties can be savage to each other for the rest of my life. Have you seen the latest shot of Jonathan Ross dressed as Claudia?

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No, I haven't. But I have seen, thanks to 10 social media before I've seen the episode, Tom Daly's shower scene.

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Tom Daly shower scene.

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We won. Okay. Move over Freddy. Freddie Who?

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And this time I'm seeing him naked consensually. Exactly. Yes.

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So that's good. Yeah, UK, amazing. Zero notes. Ireland was. Yeah, you're right. Watchable was what I'll say for Ireland. I got excited because they were excited. Yeah, it was a- Because it was new and they were you could tell they were like really frothing.

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It was a good season. I would put it top mid tier.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Top mid. Canada. I struggled with the last one, not gonna lie.

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People do struggle with Canada.

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I struggle with all Canadian reality TV though, because they're just too nice. I'm like, I need shade.

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But they're also unhinged. Like they just make the most insane decisions.

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They really do. I did love, wasn't there like a there was a brother sister?

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Oh. There was a brother-sister, Kira and Nick, I wouldn't say.

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They were hot. Like both of them.

SPEAKER_00

They were hot. They were both hot. Um if we were gonna do a little bit of help me step bro, it would be them.

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It's was giving porn search terms.

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Also, I loved Michael John, the creepy one who looked like a troll who would kind of sexually harass the women.

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was there.

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He was there.

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So that's right, and you'll be covering that on babes.

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So Canada will be on Babes on the Brink.

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But you are busy.

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Uh anything UK or UK adjacent will be uh with Pooya on We Know the Traiters.

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I loved the BBC bit. When you were like the BBC, and Pooh was like, go on. And I could just say, and it is not a I wasn't watching the video, but I could just hear your face through the audio.

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This isn't cringe part. I'm like, I've it was a stare-off because I'm like, don't dare me to say it because I'll say it, Pooya.

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Like so good.

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And I'm not the one who'll get in trouble.

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Yeah, exactly. Oh, so good. Absolutely. I could see the higher ups that are getting very concerned. So

The Traitors Australia Season 3 Trailer

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we had so do you think this cast drop from 10 was planned? Or did the leak happen and then they were like, fuck, might as well just drop it.

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I think that they had to be proactive about it. So let me give you my whole emotional thing through this. They have been teasing for ever since my season was cancelled. Well, it was cancelled after my season. My season also is a cancellable offense. Um they have been.

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No fault of yours.

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Threatening to they've been threatening to renew it. So it had kind of got to the point where we hear it's being renewed rumours, and I roll my eyes and I go, yeah, sure, whatever.

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Sure, Jan.

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Confirmed it is renewed. Okay. Then I start hearing the rumours about who's going to release.

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I may have contributed to. Because I was hearing whispers about other ex-reality TV celebs that aren't cast. Yes. But that's definitely I reckon those people were in conversations.

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I think they were in conversations. I'm hearing mixages of ones who were on, who weren't on. Thank God we didn't get Tim Dormer, for instance. That was very great.

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That was a I was like, I feel like that passed that psych evaluation. But anyway.

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Sorry, doll. Um, I mean, not that that is a deal breaker for them. Um in fact, if you've done a stint in a psych ward, your preferred casting. Case in point. Um so when we they came back out again, I'm like, no, this was a leaky bucket already. If you've got a whole batch of, I don't want to say former reality TV stars. What do we call them? Not stars. Because they are not stars.

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Look, there I would say there are some absolute stars in this cast, and there are some that I'm like, hmm.

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I forgot have not realized or remembered you existed in 20 years.

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But overall, it's amazing. And it's very, it's like they did this cast for me. Because this is the cringiest cast of all time of a reality show. And I am so fucking excited to watch this show.

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I I again, let's so I now am finding out the cast, and I I can't so I'm stressed. Yeah. Because I am so personally invested in this season being a success. I am so sick and tired of Australia being shot on for having the worst version of the franchise when the first season was great and the second season is the most talked about.

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Well, that so that's the thing. So I don't think it's shadow. I think I mean it is shad on on Reddit. But hey, why you got my name in your mouth? Do you know what I mean? It's kind of like stop talking about me then if you hate it so much. Do you know what I love? Like every now and then some random new person on the Reddit will come up and go, just finished AU season two. And I'm like, here we go! And I'm like, ooh, what have they got to say? And it's like, what the fuck? And I'm love, and they're so mad, they're always so mad. I'm like so mad. I'm like, yeah, you're mad, but are you not entertained?

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Every, every single week. It came out over two years ago. There's someone new, angry about it every single week. What else is having that effect?

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And then everyone will say I can't wait for Evan Ross Katz to finally watch it. He'll be like, like, do you know what I'm about?

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I know, I know. It's gonna be huge. I can't watch! I'm not finished ranting. So they all then claim that it got cancelled because season two was such a bad season. No, as if you would cancel a show after like the messiest ending like that ever, it was up against the block people.

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Also, they've got that money. Spoilers, but they've got that money, so they can, you know, it's it's a it's a circular economy over there.

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So I need this to be a big comeback, and I'm stressed because this cast seems even denser than mine. And that is an achievement because famously the densest cast of all.

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And when we're saying density, we're referring to lack of previous interaction with the traders, general IQ.

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General IQ and lack of experience having watched the traders. Accomate least likely to be competent, is what I'm saying.

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All I can say is it's gonna be like I can't remember which US season was it where the survivor people just ran rings around everyone. Was it the first one?

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It was the first one.

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It's gonna be like that, because we've got four Survivor people who are gamers! Gamers! We got the gamers, and then we've got the Love Islands and whatnot. So I think it's gonna be like the gamers being like let the only people taking it seriously. The rest of them are gonna be there for the appearance fee. Absolutely. I'm not mad about so.

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This is what I mean. I'm here. I need this to be a success. I need you to sell me on why I'm excited about this, and I'm excited to go through it because I want this to be brilliant and I want to love all of these people. Yeah, but I want to have friends from Australian traitors. I'm desperate for them.

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Yeah. I was hoping for a few normies, because you know, this is a show I would do.

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Yeah.

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Like I don't think I could do Island show because I I can't not eat for like 20 minutes. I turn into a cunt. So I think I could do this one. The breakfast is chic.

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It's just of course, you would be amazing. They could find amazing normies.

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I could do this one. It's like the only one I would do. This is a good one. And it's a what? Films in like two weeks?

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This is what I mean. Three weeks. What's yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I love that.

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This cast confounds me because clearly they've true chosen to do all celebrities, celebrities, because they want the audience. They need a compelling, this is why you watch this event. Is this the cast you put together in order to bring in an audience?

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I'm gonna say yes. Okay, alright. Like, I think I am the audience for this cast. Okay, and then there's also it'll bring in all of the people that watch all these other silly shows that you probably don't watch. I don't watch. So I'm watching like 90% of these shows. So for me, this is like all stars of like the dumbest shows ever. The Bachelor ones I'm not familiar with, so that we're gonna struggle with them when we go through the cast. But literally, I'm very familiar with most of these people. Okay. In a like creepy way.

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Okay, I'm really excited. I am really excited.

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Should we go through it? Let's go through that. Let's just fucking do Oh, we buried the fucking lead. Gretel Colline's hair in the promo.

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Oh my god.

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The gay involved in this act of terrorism against our girl Gretel needs to be, I'm gonna say it, euthanized. Shot on site.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Disgusting. Our queen deserves better.

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And I've just been watching her on the Amazing Race, and she looked excellent there.

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With her daughter Epiphany.

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Oh my god, Epiphany is still laugh. They hate each other so much, and I'm obsessed. Like, you shouldn't have to try that hard to like each other and go on TV.

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But I think Greta was the perfect casting choice for host. I think it's so good, but the styling I'm gonna need to see. Like, come on, either go full Claudia Winkleman and just like who gives a fuck? Or full Alan Cumming because was her name Siobhan? Yeah, she was somewhere in between and didn't work. I'm gonna say it.

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I mean lesbians. I'm gonna say it.

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When they when they put that headband on her with the like playing card attached to it, honey.

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Lesbians.

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No, no, no, no. You either go full camp or not at all.

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No, we don't go made this in a craft or noon. But anyway.

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We digress. Um, are you you happy to see Gretel hosting?

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I am. It really brings me back to my big brother days. It brought me back to the turkey slapping scandal. When we had prime ministers who would comment on what was going on on reality TV.

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That was so good.

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So bring that back. I've you know, I'm a fan of Gretel actually. I've read her books.

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Yes, she's she's yeah, she's great. She's solid. Others are good choice. You're not gonna miss uh Roger.

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Roger has his own thing going on now. He's on the floor.

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Oh, is that like a that's like a deal or no deal vibe?

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But with quizzes. Oh it's funny. Okay, yeah. I've not watched it.

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I don't know. Well, love and light to you, Roger.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, love and light to you, Roger, wishing you all the best.

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But also, I think they realised, I think the producers are smart, they watched the international seasons, they're like, oh, we need a campus bar host. We can't have this dude. I don't know, he he tried, he did alright. Traders is for the gays. It's for the gays, so give us mother, and they delivered.

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Yeah. No, the gays and housewives, like that's who's watching this.

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Well, that's oh my god, don't. And that's who they've cast. So excited. Yeah. Alright, we're gonna do this alphabetically.

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Okay.

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Uh, so first up, we have to talk about AJ from Australian Survivor. Perfect! Perfect choice.

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I hate hate this so much. I love this.

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Perfect choice.

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I hate this. You know why I hate this? Because in this cast, this man's gonna get a sympathetic edit.

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You reckon? Nah. Because they want to build the story unless they go full, he's changed, he's white. Nah, they're gonna go, he's a cheeky, he's the deep most devious gamer of the moment.

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But they'll try and make him seem smart when famously everything, all of his lies were crafted by ChatGPT.

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They were.

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He delivers them with the conviction of But his flirt game was so good. Me faking an orgasm. And I just no, no, I like no, no. This is a hard no for me. I only know the survivor players.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay. But hard noise, and you don't want him in your personal space, or hard no for him as a casting choice.

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He makes my skin crawl, whether he like I have never had the distinct pleasure of meeting this man. Yeah. And I can live like that. See, I I don't want him on my TV.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, okay, okay. I did the because everything you're saying is exactly how I spoke about him when we were recapping his season of Australian Survivor, but I've since kind of come around in the way where I'm like, yeah, but fuck I loved hating him. It was so fun. And there was a few weeks there where he was carrying the storyline.

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I'm gonna say it. I I'm repressing that season from my memory.

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Do you think he's gonna be a little bit like uh your best mate Sam?

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Yeah, so my concern here is that he would I think if they that he will waste a traitor's spot because they've got to give it to him.

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They'll so give it to him.

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They've got to give it to one of the survivor players. I hope they give it to Kirby because I think she'd actually be much better at it.

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And she's got the world's best poker face. So she would slay as a trade-ar.

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She's a great liar. I think everyone will suspect AJ, but he's such a terrible liar, truth teller, everything. He's so fake and phony.

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Yeah.

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Maybe an early banishment we can manifest.

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Yeah, he'll probably rub people the wrong way. I'm worried for Kirby that she might get taken out first because threat level, but No, no, no. Uh, next is Alex Nation from The Bachelor, I'm told, but I have zero point of reference.

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Is Alex Nation the one who was on that ad where they said he goes, I'm a an astrona an astronomer, and she goes, Oh my god, that's so great, I'm a Pisces, or something along those lines. Was she that one?

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From the Matt Agnew season. Is that her?

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I only remember the advert.

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Uh yeah, I think that could be her. Yeah. Um, I don't know. Sounds like she's doing well.

SPEAKER_00

What does she look like? Just she's hot. I recognise her face, I think.

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Where is she? Here she is with her there. She is. Uh no, maybe not.

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We don't know her, sorry.

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You know, I don't think I know her. She just looks like an influencer.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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And like a mum, like a mum fluencer. Yeah. You know. Uh, yeah, I have nothing to say about these bachelor people.

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The other one I had intel, who and I maybe it was Kira, she began with a K. All of this Intel was got from other gays. Right. Keep in mind at this point.

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The group chat. I heard about this gay group chat. The gay group chat.

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I was like, where's my you don't want to be in this group chat? I'm telling you right now. You straight up don't.

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I actually am so bad. I'm like the worst in a group chat. I like I contribute like once a month, and then I'm like, mute.

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We are several wines deep at this point. Um she is a villain, she is a C-word, is what they say. Oh, about the other bachelor girl. So that's the only intel I have.

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Next is Alvin from Master Chef. Love. Like fucking love. When this one I was like, oh, okay, random, but sweet.

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He's a nice guy. I think I can get behind him.

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He's like, you know, fabulous, gay.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

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He's gonna win everyone over just by being kooky and fun, I think.

SPEAKER_00

And then probably be murdered first because he's Asian. You think so? Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, with this lot. Yes. I don't know. There's yeah. For Channel 10, this is giving their like their mid-range diversity. Do you know what I mean? But it's it's just scraping by. But in Australian television standards, they are like doing very well.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, for Australia, they're doing very well. My prediction, episode one, the traders say, I don't know about Alvin, he just seems sneaky.

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Uh.

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And then he gets murdered.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_00

But are we rooting for him?

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. I love.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think he's great.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, this is good. And so Alvin is like following in like Khan's footsteps here. Like Master Chef people being cast on competition shows that aren't about cooking. I think that's the only other time that's ever happened, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I mean, I dropped off Master Chef quite a while ago, but I am familiar with Alvin's work.

SPEAKER_01

Great, great, yeah. And he brings uh great eyewear. So I expect Camp eyewear and fabulous looks.

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And I hope he's smart as well. Yeah, I think he is. He's gotta be smarter than some of us.

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Anyone that can cook like that, I think it takes a bit of brain power. Looking forward to Elvin. Uh okay, next is Cam Merchant from Married at First Sight. Oh my god. You don't fuck with math.

SPEAKER_00

I only have the gays group chat intel on this one. Where I'm only nice one, you know, sweetie, married with kids now. It's a miracle.

SPEAKER_01

He's very handsome.

SPEAKER_00

I was gonna say, is he your type as this sort of very okay?

SPEAKER_01

He's cute, no?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah. In a kind of like Yes, yes, yeah. He seems sweet.

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He's a dag.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

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I think he's good, but yeah, the I mean, if you got through maths and Australia like still like loves you, like well done.

SPEAKER_00

Especially while I'm doing my predictions, Cam makes it far into the game. Um always oblivious, never really has any idea what's going on.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, oh yeah, he'll be like, What is what are we doing?

SPEAKER_00

P s is good friends with one of the traitors, is never perceived as a threat for murder or banishment.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Yeah, I c I can see that happening.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not spoiled on anything, by the way. I've this is I'm just predicting.

SPEAKER_01

No, no. Next is Claudia. From Love Island, Australia. Okay. Never heard of her more. Never heard of her either. She's hot. You Google her and it says, Are Claudia and Austin still together? Um, let's find out. Yes, they are.

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Miracle.

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So again, they're giving us some lovable, they're giving us um.

SPEAKER_00

I think we also need to do like most likely to be sexually harassed by AJ.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, we need eyes on Claudia around AJ. For sure.

SPEAKER_00

He does like a blonde though, so yeah, true.

SPEAKER_01

She might be marked safe from AJ's wrath. I mean, look.

SPEAKER_00

She is chat GPT.

SPEAKER_01

She's gorgy. I'd hate to judge a gorgeous woman that's been on Love Island, but let's see what Love Island Wiki has to say. Um yeah. She did well. She she won.

SPEAKER_00

Studied biomedicine. Yeah. I made that up.

SPEAKER_01

She won Love Island with Austin and they're still together. So wow. She's from Adelaide. She's 26. Alright. That's I'm sorry, she sounds boring to me.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, snooze.

SPEAKER_01

Like, I don't want someone that won Love Island to come up. I want someone that got like removed from the villa for being like too sexual. That's who I want on this show, you know?

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. If you weren't going to give us like a high gamer cast, at least give me the messiest cast that could be created.

SPEAKER_01

Now the next two we can almost discuss in tandem, and this was the one where I was like, wow, Tanner really leaning into the nostalgia at the moment with the big broth, the return of big brother, um, Gretel as the host, and then now on this show we get Cosima DeVito and Dicko from OG Australian Idol. Like, what? Surely you're familiar.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, completely. Cosima's the one where I'm like, I have not thought about you in 20 years.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, her name is she's one of those like who people that gets thrown out. Like random gays will just be like, oh Costuma's a veto. Like, she's like an she's like a bit of a anecdote, you know. But I love that. To have her return on TV, what, 20 plus years?

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

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Uh amazing.

SPEAKER_00

I'm into that. Dicko. Wasn't Dicko cancelled? Ugh.

SPEAKER_01

Probably.

SPEAKER_00

Probably. Who cares? Anyway.

SPEAKER_01

Dicko, we do you know who they needed as well? Was is Paulini.

SPEAKER_00

They did. They did.

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To have like a big mistake, huge moment. Yes. With the dress.

SPEAKER_00

I thought you were gonna go for Kyle Sanderland's, but absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01

I don't fuck with McKay.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely not. The Dicko, last time I really saw him on television was when he was hosting Australian Survivor, the pre-channel 20.

SPEAKER_01

What? Celebrity uh season. Yes. In Vanuatu. Yes. I've totally forgot about that. Is that on like seven?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. It's I had the guy who had the affair with Pauline Hanson and then did a lie detect test about it. Honestly. Iconic season. Iconic season.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, iconic.

SPEAKER_00

Um, so yeah, I'm look, I'm quite enthusiastic to have Dick O'Brien. No, I love he will play the role of like the token chauvinist who just doesn't believe anything women are saying at the round table. And I think it'll be great.

SPEAKER_01

I think he's gonna be one of the most well-known cast members. I think most of the cast, I don't know, anyone born before like I know some of these younger people might be like, who is that? Um, which is gonna make us feel old. But yeah, I welcome Dico to this cast. Him and Cosima. Like, that's just it's crazy to me that this is happening.

SPEAKER_00

Frida's going full A on me right now. Fit of consent, darling. I'm kind of into it.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, next is Mother Quake number one. Yeah. Gamble from The Rural Housewives of Melbourne. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

I only know of her via the gays group chat where I heard dumbest be alive.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, just okay. So, Gamble. She breeds Pomeranians.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, oh yes, I did hear that too, which I was saying.

SPEAKER_01

She lives in like Red Hill or like, you know, Peninsula Way. Um, she's got a fabulous, like, gay stepson. Oh, love. Um, she's married to an eye surgeon called Wolf Pup.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, I did remove that she calls him Wolf Pop.

SPEAKER_01

He looks a bit Frankenstein, he looks a bit like lobotomized, but we love him.

SPEAKER_00

Why do we call him Wolf Pup?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know, because she calls him that.

SPEAKER_00

She's like, Wofie!

SPEAKER_01

Wolf Wolf. Um she's so good. When provoked, she is like a viper. Like, I really hope people just start accusing her straight away because we're gonna get like incredible defensive content from Gamby.

SPEAKER_00

Prediction.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Her and Henry have a bit of a show flirt match. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

She gets Zen Hen.

SPEAKER_00

Zen Hen. He flirts with her for strategy. She goes along with it. She gets into a screaming match with AJ at a round table.

SPEAKER_01

I love these predictions. They're like fanfiction. Oh yeah, I'm just going crazy. I love it, I love it. Uh, I think look, unfortunately, if the US seasons are to go by, Housewives don't um have great track records. I mean, we did have we did have a a winning Housewife last season, but what, there was like four of them or three of them?

SPEAKER_00

Uh she didn't. Survivors are gonna drive the strategy here. AJ and Henry, and I love you, Henry, so I say this with love. Don't think I'm lumping you in with AJ. AJ and Henry are the kind of men who are delusional about their sex appeal with an older generation of women. Only slightly delusional because sometimes it does work.

SPEAKER_01

True.

SPEAKER_00

Both of them are going to go for the flirt strategy, especially with the older ladies.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I think Kirby is going to perceive the housewives as women she can get influence over. So I I think he could be right.

SPEAKER_01

I think Henry, and look, Henry's got a new look. He's cut the hair, he's looking a little bit more corporate in this suit. Um, when was the last time we saw Henry? What season was he on? I can't fucking know.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, are we getting to Henry now?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he's he's actually next. That's why I was like perfect.

SPEAKER_00

Henry. I have been worried about Henry, and I'm so glad he's back because love him.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he was good. I I'm surprised we haven't seen him sooner on a returnee. He did come back though, right? One time.

SPEAKER_00

So he was on season two. Um then he came back for All Star.

SPEAKER_01

That's right.

SPEAKER_00

Where he felt he just burnt out. He went kind of too hard. Yeah. They end Nick had to end up cutting him early because he got into a fight with Harry. Um God. And I think Henry kind of spiraled after that season. Okay. And he's sort of made intermittent returns to Instagram where he kind of relaunches his personal brand and then disappears again.

SPEAKER_01

Because he was like a kind of bar and bae, like um, yoga instructor, wasn't he? That was his whole shtick was I'm a yoga instructor.

SPEAKER_00

He's not really a yoga instructor. Of course not.

SPEAKER_01

But like they went with that.

SPEAKER_00

And then, but then he was selling something on Instagram. I don't remember.

SPEAKER_01

He gives me Crypto Bro energy hard.

SPEAKER_00

I wanted to know if he was okay. And I've thought so many times over the years about reaching out and being like, Are you okay? And just never have. And then here he appears on Twitter's Him and Kirby are the two where I'm like, Yes, I'm really into this.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, big time. Kirby's a get. Yes. Yeah. Uh all right, there's some brothers.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Josh Packham. This is another Love Island Stitch.

SPEAKER_00

Were they both on the block together as well or something?

SPEAKER_01

Josh, yeah, probably. What does it say? Yeah. Oh, see, look. I my prediction is that I'm going to be You're gonna wanna fuck them so bad. You're gonna want to fuck them so bad. That's my prediction. Them on the show.

SPEAKER_00

Absolute non-entity.

SPEAKER_01

Also a Love Island winner. So why are they putting these winners on? I mean, look.

SPEAKER_00

Were they also on the block?

SPEAKER_01

They like dump their man candy.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. No. They will contribute absolutely nothing and you will have a stiffy.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna have a stiffy, that's guaranteed. No, I don't think they were on the block. I feel like it would say.

SPEAKER_00

No, they were on another show. They were online.

SPEAKER_01

Oh no, they were on the block. You're right.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Of course they were. Yeah, here you go. Oh, no, they're not hot at all.

SPEAKER_00

Are they they're twins, but no, I you guarantee you're gonna be horny for them. I don't care what you say now.

SPEAKER_01

These matching avocado shirts that I'm looking at. Yeah. Not the vibe. Yeah, look, of course I am, because they're dumb straight guys on Australian television. But you know, yeah, my prediction, snooze first. There's gonna be such divisions by category, isn't there? Yes. All of the love island and bachelors are gonna form this like nucleus of stupidity.

SPEAKER_00

The survivor's gonna be overplaying and trying to form alliances, even though it's not an alliance game.

SPEAKER_01

And then like Reese and Queen Kong and Monake and Alvin are just gonna be like the gay corner. Like honestly, with maybe the housewives, I don't know. Oh, here we go. This is your girl next, Kira Maguire. Is this this is the K one from uh Batchin?

SPEAKER_00

I there was a lot of alcohol consumed, so I can't remember if C word was used as a slur or as a compliment.

SPEAKER_01

Um let's go with a bit of both. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um, she looks a bit like Erica Jane or something. She's kind of I don't know, she's serving in this pig. Let's um let's have a look. Let's get up. Oh, okay. Oh, I know this bitch.

SPEAKER_00

She's gonna be sexually harassed by AJ. Most likely to be sexually harassed by AJ.

SPEAKER_01

Definitely. Is she a wag? Probably. She's giving hardcore wag. These pictures are incredible.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, she's gorgeous.

SPEAKER_01

I'm ex- She's a gorgeous girl. Oh, I'm excited for her. Yeah, she's gonna be great.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not. I think she'll be there and she'll be hot.

SPEAKER_01

Nah, I'm hope. I've got high hopes for you, Kira.

SPEAKER_00

Do you like the show? Do you like the traitors?

SPEAKER_01

I love the traitors. Okay, alright. But I want it to be, you know, I want it to be equal parts good and cringy.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, okay, okay. I think I just need to embrace this from your point of view.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, yeah, yeah. I think you do. I think you need to lean in to and look, they're trying something different. And you've got to give that to them.

SPEAKER_00

And it's so Australian TV to be like, what if we take this tried, tested, and beloved format and then mished it with Love Island.

SPEAKER_01

And via JLP. Yeah. Yeah, totally. You're so right.

SPEAKER_00

How do we introduce like remember when they did Big Brother but with a Love Island twist? It was No.

SPEAKER_01

Or was that 10?

SPEAKER_00

It was that was no, it was the last season of Big Brother, and they were like, but everyone's sexy and single.

SPEAKER_01

It's like that's not Big Brother. That's a different we already had that show. Yeah. You're so right. It's very Australian TV to just confuse the shit out of it, the format.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

And cast a fuckload of influences. Yes, yes. And here we are. Here we go. Um, our girl Kirby is next. I'm stoked for her. Um she's gonna play well, but that's my worry, is that she's gonna play too well and everyone's gonna be like, oh no. Get that bitch out.

SPEAKER_00

She's so incredibly likable. I think she knows to turn it down.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And that she's gonna get there no gamers other than the survivor people. I back her to be the most chill of the show.

SPEAKER_01

She'll be the most social. I think the other survivors might stick together. She might, oh actually, Shane will probably mingle as well. Don't you think?

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_00

I think so. Kirby, yeah. Biggest risk to Kirby, in my opinion, again, I'm just saying because I don't know her sedatively, are AJ and Henry. And if they see her as a threat and they target her, Shane is gonna get left out because she's the older woman.

SPEAKER_01

I hope the survivors don't do what they did on US season one where they like think they're playing Survivor. Yeah, Sandra, right? And they act like they're playing Survivor, and it's like no, like this is very, very different. Like you can't come in and start like you actually don't really need like alliances, you just need to convince people of your suspicions. It's a popularity context. It's a popularity context. You have to be good at you know, debating and convincing, you know, which these survivor players they think it's more about like just getting numbers, but I don't really think it is.

SPEAKER_00

It's not about getting numbers, it's about being the most liked person there. Yeah, and I think Kirby can do that, being the most loud and the most wrong. Yeah, and that's also a prize.

SPEAKER_01

But Kirby, I'm just glad we get more Kirby on my screen. Love her in everything.

SPEAKER_00

God, imagine being Kirby, this huge get. She's like this rising star, she's just been one of the stars of International Survivor. Yeah, you get out there, and this is your cast. You'd be like, my appearance fee should have been three times as high.

SPEAKER_01

True. Uh, I don't know. This next one's pretty huge for me. Uh, it's Chrissy Marsh from The Real Housewives of Sydney. Fuck me. So Chrissy, is do you know anything about Chrissy?

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_01

So Chrissy is the one of two people that were on all three seasons of The Real Housewives of Sydney. So that show also died and they rebooted it. So she was one of the only people to stay on board. Her nickname is Chewbacca.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

Because she's a big hairy unit. Um, she's kind of like got this rambunctious, loud, kind of almost a bit bogan edge, but she's fucking rich. Like, I think she is married to someone whose net worth is in the billions. Uh, yeah, like they've they're full on the harbour with the yacht, like full. Their house is like insane. Uh, yeah, one of the richer housewives.

SPEAKER_02

Already.

SPEAKER_01

She's stunning, she's really funny. She's also one of the only housewives, especially from this last season's cast, who was willing to be like, oh yeah, um, you know, Johnny, if he's lucky, you know, maybe I'll give him a little yeah. Like, she makes dick jokes, she's happy to be sexual, and then some of the other housewives would get a bit pearl clutchy around her. You know, they like to slut chain out Chrissy. Um at home. We love snapping. So we live for Chrissy.

SPEAKER_00

She's also the one who was rumoured to be the host before it was firmly announced it was Gretel.

SPEAKER_01

Sorry? Yeah. That would have made absolutely no sense. No, don't do you see the articles.

SPEAKER_00

There were articles about it. Oh, I did not see that. There were articles rumouring that she was the new host.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Kind of love that. Yeah. But like, what the fuck? Yeah. Happy to Chrissy. She also recently she has a podcast, of course, and she's recently been like slagging off the show a little bit. Like Housewives, that is, being like, because they've finished season three, there's no word if we're getting another one. She doesn't seem to think there will be. She's kind of like, I'm I'm good. Um, didn't have a great time last season. So she's out there slagging off the show.

SPEAKER_00

She's diversifying your TV portfolio.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

And we love that for so if she doesn't need the money, what's she doing housewives and all this for?

SPEAKER_01

I think she likes being on TV. Yeah, I don't think I don't think her being on any of these shows about the money. Especially not housewives. I don't think, particularly in the Australian one, I don't think they get paid very much. Okay. And there's no prize money. It's just a vibe. I think she's doing this for the vibe, for the experience.

SPEAKER_00

She's a poor housewife. Yeah, okay, mood.

SPEAKER_01

You know, likes doing a thing. Um she's also got merch to push, they all do. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00

You don't need the fame for the money.

SPEAKER_01

True, true, true. Queen Kong is next.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, obsessed. This is such a good shout.

SPEAKER_01

So, this is one of the few cast members that I know personally, so I'm very excited to have a pal on the show. We I love Queen, obviously. I'm not fucking say anything bad about Queen Kong. Uh, she did, though, get a bad edit on her last TV appearance, which was Global All Stars. Did you fuck with that?

SPEAKER_00

I so I didn't watch it. This is one of the ones where I am familiar with her vicariously rather than actually watching the show. Things I know about her is that she's very talented, um, but then like thinks of herself as the mother hen. Yes. And no one really buys into that.

SPEAKER_01

Very much that. And that's the that's the vibe we got on Global All Stars. She was sort of mothering, and this one particular drag queen from Italy, because it was the Global All-Stars, was decided that she was the devil. And weirdly, they edited it kind of in that girl's favor, which was weird, and the fandom all rallied around this like sookie bitch from Italy. I know I was watching it like reading the fan reaction. I was like, am I watching the same show as these people? Probably biased because I know this person, but it's also like what? So I'm coming for redemption here. Yeah, she's gonna be lovely and mother motherly on this show for sure.

SPEAKER_00

Can I do a prediction?

SPEAKER_01

Please.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I think I can see her having a Melinda Varga arc from Canada where she teams up with another queer. Yeah. They are so confident that this dedicated.

SPEAKER_01

So they come as a package. Okay. As far as I'm concerned.

SPEAKER_00

Queen Kong Reese, like tight duo, convinced they're right, and sees the moral high ground while ruthlessly bullying another gay they're convinced is a traitor. Convincing everyone that Alvin is evil and definitely a traitor, and then Alvin definitely not being a traitor, and then getting murdered.

SPEAKER_01

I love that. Yeah. Uh jump scare cut two, Lawson from Maiden Bondi. This was This is why the fact that we're talking we're talking about Queen Kong and then now Lawson. I'm like, what universe are we in?

SPEAKER_00

When I started hearing the Maiden Bondi cast rumours, I started depression spiralling. That's when I started freaking out.

SPEAKER_01

Well, they're they're unemployed because that show has no I don't know, no longevity.

SPEAKER_00

Tell me about Maiden Bondi.

SPEAKER_01

So Maine Bondi, I think was one of the fucking most insane shows ever made. Highly recommend watching it. I'm also now gonna take this opportunity to plug my recaps I did with Maria. Like it was so, so good. Like this show was. Did you ever watch Made in Chelsea? No. Okay, so it's in the same universe as that. It's really stay, really stilted, really scripted content where like not for a second do you believe that anything happening is um real, but the audience is in on that. It's like East Enders, like it's it's not trying to be real. It's so stupid.

SPEAKER_00

It's a bit like the hills.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, it's exactly like the hills. You're watching it and you're like, oh, and they'll they'll do things like, oh, I'm just gonna go to the bar now and get another drink, and they'll be holding like a full drink. Like the like that actually happens, and you're like, ah, amazing. And so this season followed, you know, some rich brats in Sydney. Incredible. This guy has like a South African accent, which people bullied him online for.

SPEAKER_00

Is he from South Africa?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, but everyone just thought he was like a posh Australian, and he was being like, Oh, hey guys. That's Mel Arthur, man. And everyone was like, how this guy talks like a fuckhead. And then he came out, he did a video being like, I'm actually a South Africa on your gas.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm looking forward to that.

SPEAKER_00

The survivors are gonna hate this guy. You reckon? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. He's cute. He's not my style, but he's like objectively very good looking.

SPEAKER_00

I love this. I'm actually thrilled. I am going, I'm already making my way through all of your sluts in the gold coast or sluts and cans coverage. Um, so I can learn about this other person that begins with M. I now need to go back and listen to the Maiden Bondi coverage.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god. Um, next is the other twin from the block we've already covered them. They they come as a package. Do you think they're gonna do that actually? Like they get one vote or some shit?

SPEAKER_00

Oh god.

SPEAKER_01

They're pictured together on the thing. I hope not.

SPEAKER_00

Are they gonna do a twin twist?

SPEAKER_01

They might do a twin twist. Like the Logan twin style.

SPEAKER_00

They are doing nostalgia. They're going to do a twin twist.

SPEAKER_01

If they do full swapsies.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, which one does the turkey slapping? Which one does the turkey swap? I mean, look.

SPEAKER_01

I got two holes, boys. Take one each. Oh my god. Uh speaking of horny as fuck, Manaki is next who is on said show. This is this couldn't be better for me. This is like full cross promo for my Aussie Shaw recaps happening weekly at the moment. Manaki is like our one queer cast member. Actually, no, we've got Lexi as well, but um he is flying the flag. In the his first season, he was like, I'm bisexual. And then in the second season, he was like, I'm gay.

SPEAKER_00

Oh I love a bioraising by person.

SPEAKER_01

So but so this but the biorazure is real on Aussie Shaw, because Lexi also did the same thing.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, obsessed.

SPEAKER_01

Um yeah, we love that. But he's a gorgeous man, he's a very tall. I saw him recently just like on the street, and I was like, oh my god, Monaki. And he's gorgeous, very tall, very white teeth. Um Is he a slut? Yes. You can't not be and be on Aussie Shaw. Okay. Um Yeah, in the most recent episode, he gets some dick finally in the house and he's spagging hotties. Love him as sure. I think he's actually gonna be really good on this.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Because that you know the Aussie Show, they're loud and crazy. Like you the bull in China shop like vibes.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I can see. Do you think he's gonna get some dick in this house?

SPEAKER_01

Probably not. No. I don't think there's anyone down to clown. But hey, stranger things have happened.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I honestly I'd be really into the season if that happened. Like if we're going to Love Island twist on the traitors, let that happen.

SPEAKER_01

I think you're gonna really like him.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Like really lovable character. Uh another Love Island one. Rachel.

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_01

Let's have a quick Google. What have you got for us, Rachel? If there's not the word scandal in like the first I know.

SPEAKER_00

When I saw it was Nasser and Tim Dormer, at least there was scandal.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, see that would have been good. Alright. Oh, oh.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, she's got small naturals.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. She's Scott Snatchers. Oh, she got dumped on day 10.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, Pilates instructor and social media creator. Yeah, look, I'm into it. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not um that opposed to it.

SPEAKER_00

Most likely to come out as dating Henry after the season.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, big time. Yeah. If not gamble. One of the housewives. Look, Rachel, prove it's wrong, but at this point, I'm not that excited. Uh next is Rhys Nicholson. Incredible. Do you know anything about him?

SPEAKER_00

Tell me. Don't know anything about Reese. Well, I only from the gaze trap.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Uh, so they are a very well-known comedian um in Australia. They have the same role that Alan Carr plays at with Graham Norton on Drag Race. So they are like Rue's, like, you know sort of local insight. Okay. And now it's Michelle, because Rue's fallen off the drag race Bamagan. But uh, yeah, very respected comedian in Australia, owns a comedy venue on Burke Street with their partner Kyron. Cool Comedy Republic, it's really gorgeous. Yeah, just a bit of a legend and a really nice person and very funny.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, voted for person I'm most likely to want to be friends with.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you're gonna love race. Alright.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Into it.

SPEAKER_01

I think good. And again, similar to some like maybe Dicko and Kirby. I'm like, wow, these are like gets. Like this is a get.

SPEAKER_00

So how do we think they'll play?

SPEAKER_01

Similar to Alan Carr. I think Reese is there to make bit to do bits and not to play the game. I don't think Reese has any interest in winning the game, but Reese will be giving us very good television. Okay. Yeah. And being silly.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Uh Reese's also been on Taskmaster.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um so yeah. Booked and blessed.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Getting all the gigs. Um was great on that. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Funny. Funny. Character moment. We're gonna need a lot of heavy lifting because let's be honest, the Love Island people aren't gonna be funny. They're just gonna be there. No, they're just gonna be there.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. Uh okay, here we go. Rob Farnum.

SPEAKER_00

Uh, this is the biggest get of the cast. This is the case. Let's let me see a photo. Oh god.

SPEAKER_01

I love it. Just says on here it says musician. Really? Sure thing. Sure, Jad. Johnny Farnum's son. Wow. Look, it's because Robert Irwin wasn't available. Yeah, Robert.

SPEAKER_00

Robert Irwin said no.

SPEAKER_01

Robert Irwin said, bitch, I'm in the States doing dancing with the stars. Literally. And slang.

SPEAKER_00

I'm in real TV. What do you mean you want me on here with Rachel from The Bachelor?

SPEAKER_01

Rob Harnham can get the fuck away from me. I'm sorry. He's terrifying. I Joe might have some competition for most creepy.

SPEAKER_00

We I know that we have the Rando relatives. You know, we have Taylor Swift.

SPEAKER_01

Dylan Efron.

SPEAKER_00

We have Dylan Ephron. We have Taylor Swift's mother-in-law. We do Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

Like British parliamentarian.

SPEAKER_01

But I'd it's a big cast, so they need to have had it out.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

You know, and Rob's doing Rub's doing great work.

SPEAKER_00

I okay, look, I I'm am I excited to see him on the cast? No. Neither.

SPEAKER_01

However. I'll agree with you finally for that.

SPEAKER_00

However, I don't know already that he's terrible, which actually makes him better than I'd say a significant portion of this customer.

SPEAKER_01

It's the same with all the Love Island girlies and the Bachelor of Girls. Although I've already written them off. You've already so no, but I'm I'm coming in with an open heart, an open mind with them. I'm like, prove me wrong. They've got one chance each to prove me wrong. So does little Robbie Farnham. Though the cast are gonna be like, oh, oh, the voice. The son of the voice. Like, do you know what I mean? Okay. It's gonna be Australiana. The the twins playing as one person are gonna be all up for him. Yeah, the the Logan twins are gonna be like, oh, bloody legend, mate. Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna really take it to a place of excited for the season now.

SPEAKER_00

Now the fan fiction of the twin twist.

SPEAKER_01

The twin twist is great, I can't wait. For the little for them to show us the little trapdoor. Maybe it's oh my god, they're both traders, but only one of them can be in the castle at a time. I loved it.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, I love this season of the traitors.

SPEAKER_01

Because it is getting tired. Like we we live for the trades, but it is getting a bit tired when you're like us and you watch all of it.

SPEAKER_00

It's never getting tired. It's an It is getting tired.

SPEAKER_01

That Trojan horse.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, the missions get very tired.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, okay, look, let this be the messiest season of the traitors that existed.

SPEAKER_01

Even messier than yours. I want the Reddit comments to be like, I thought season two was bad.

SPEAKER_00

Season three is disgusting! In the traitors India, you had an old guy who napped throughout the entire show. You had influences screaming sister effort in each other. So I want this to be worse than that.

SPEAKER_01

I reckon we can get there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. And do you know who else is gonna help us do that?

SPEAKER_00

Who?

SPEAKER_01

Shane fucking Gould.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god. And we've got Shane Gould.

SPEAKER_01

Like.

SPEAKER_00

What is this timeline? What the fuck? Shane, uh like, this is so. This is a rift in the multiverse. It really is. Yeah. I would love for her to do well, but I can't see her making it past week one.

SPEAKER_01

You reckon? People might feel bad. People love an Olympian and an old lady. And they might treat her like you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but it's a popularity contest.

SPEAKER_01

Look, I'm not mad if she goes week one. I'd I'm not, I'm famously not a fan of Shangold.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, because she's from the mateship era of Australian Survivor, which I hate.

SPEAKER_00

She was boring on Survivor, and I think she'll be boring on this show.

SPEAKER_01

She's like, I'm proof you can win with loyalty and oh cool.

SPEAKER_00

She'll be boring on this show.

SPEAKER_01

She'll be very boring. Yeah. Our final uh cast member is Tully from Big Brother.

SPEAKER_00

Do I have any recollection of Tully?

SPEAKER_01

So which Big Brother? Which one was she on? Because I gave up. When it left 10, I gave up, but I feel like she might have been on the last 10 one.

SPEAKER_00

But they are casting across networks, so um They are, and I I need like it she s seems familiar, but I need flashbacks.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. She's taken Big Brother off her bio. She's already moved to things. Yeah, I remember her being quite cute, but yeah, I don't know, she's not for me. She's influencer. That's a big following. Yeah, that is a huge following. That's why they've got her on.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, she was on Big Brother 10. Was I still watching at that point? Oh, on nine.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, she used to look like that and she's had this crazy glow up. Yeah. She won, right?

SPEAKER_00

Did she?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I have no memory. Did she?

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway, I It does make me feel like there's still potential for me to get influencer level hot though.

SPEAKER_01

She yeah, she's she cleaned up hard. Um actual show.

SPEAKER_00

She's out at seven. Oh she I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Oh fucking know.

SPEAKER_00

Who knows?

SPEAKER_01

Uh yeah, look.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that's big b oh, so she came back for fourteen.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, she did too. She did ten and fourteen.

SPEAKER_00

Evicted. A thirteenth. She came thirteenth on ten and then on fourteen, eleven. So no, she's always Yeah, she doesn't mind.

SPEAKER_01

In my mind, she was a winner, but I don't know. I didn't watch it.

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_01

This was a that was when Big Brother went to a dark place after it left 10. Yeah. And I just couldn't. I refused. So yeah, so that's a bit it's a bit of a flex for them to, but I guess we we're in a different time now. Because back in the day they would never dare casting people from other networks.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

Or if they did, they'd be like, I was on a show. You know what I mean? Like they wouldn't name it, but they're full naming it with this.

SPEAKER_00

And I also think they're like, who knows which network's gonna own the traders?

SPEAKER_01

Well, that's at the point where we live in a fucking world where, like, I don't know, soon there's gonna be like one streaming service that owns everything.

SPEAKER_00

We're hot potatoing from network to network at this point.

SPEAKER_01

And I guess they're making this for streaming, right? Like Paramount Plus.

SPEAKER_00

Are they? I'm sure. Surely no, it'll be on free to work.

SPEAKER_01

No, it'll be on free to no, but I mean, like, they're also there's that secondary audience of like selling it overseas. Yeah, and they don't have Jeff Propes to like shut down it being streamed in America.

SPEAKER_00

So that was so toxic.

SPEAKER_01

Right. So have I managed to get you a little bit more excited?

SPEAKER_00

No, I am really excited about it now. I think I just needed it reframing. I mean, the only reason why I was so negative was because as I said, I need this to be a big success. Yes. And I'm looking at it and I'm gonna say these people aren't going to play the game well.

SPEAKER_01

No, and you're absolutely right. I think they're not gonna play the game well at all.

SPEAKER_00

But will it be a really compelling TV show? I think it could.

SPEAKER_01

It could. Because the difference is between like celebrity UK traders, all of those people, because because of the success that the Traders has been in the UK, all of those people have watched it. All of them. Because everyone in the UK watched the traders.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Here no one watched it. No one watched it. So I think a lot of these people are doing it for the paycheck for the appearance on TV to stay relevant. Um, and I don't think many of them, if it honestly, I think the Survivor players are gonna be the only people who have watched it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like, honestly. You're telling me fucking And Shane won't have. Yeah, you're telling me Dicko and Reese Nicholson are watching The Traders. No.

SPEAKER_00

I can see maybe Que Kong would watch at least real.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but that's not going on the show, but I think the people who would actually do their homework Alvin, Queen Kong, the Survivors.

SPEAKER_01

I don't mind a messy game though, where people don't really know what's going on.

SPEAKER_00

I know, but look what happened on mine.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, fingers crossed, I I'm whatever happens, I will become this season's biggest advocate.

SPEAKER_01

Yay, me too. I can't wait for the Reddit comments. That's what I'm most excited about.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, Reddit is going to be over the moon. Yeah. They should have brought Sam back. Honestly, they that's You fit right in with this class two.

SPEAKER_01

I'm actually really surprised they didn't. There's not a single returning traders player.

SPEAKER_00

I think they should have brought Sam back. Maybe they will.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god. Maybe they will halfway through or some shit. I don't fucking know.

SPEAKER_00

With the twin twist?

SPEAKER_01

Maybe he's the third twin.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Well, we did it.

SPEAKER_00

We did it.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you so much for joining me for this emergency episode. I believe it's airing early next year.

SPEAKER_00

No idea.

SPEAKER_01

That's what I kind of gathered from.

SPEAKER_00

We ours aired in August. So.

SPEAKER_01

I think it's gonna air before Survivor. Okay. I think it's gonna be like a Jan feb. Like after Big Brother. Because they've already dropped all this stuff. I don't know. Why not?

SPEAKER_00

Alright, maybe.

SPEAKER_01

And I think they want to test it. I don't know. I don't think they're that fussed about it. Because also they what? They shot it in the same location as the Kiwi show in New Zealand. Cheap Kiwi production. Cheap Kiwi production. They've piggybacked on that, which is very similar to what happens in the UK.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

With the American one piggybacking on their set. So that tells me that they're like not that fussed about this. I don't think it's just a bit of fun.

SPEAKER_00

These people aren't going to demand much of an appearance fee, most of them anyway. No. So they can afford for this to flop. Which is why I'm so concerned. I can't afford for this to flop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I care.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, we'll see. Hopefully, they've at least signed some contracts that they have to do another one. Do you reckon they'll alternate, like the next one will be normies? Or do I do you think they're full celebrated?

SPEAKER_00

I think it's gonna go full celebs lover. Next, it's gonna be all celebs who are all single.

SPEAKER_01

Would you do it?

SPEAKER_00

I have small naturals and an oversized nose. I am never going to get hard.

SPEAKER_01

I would love a showdown between you and Sam again. Producers, if you're listening. I think that's a great idea.

SPEAKER_00

Small naturals for the wind.

SPEAKER_01

I'm also surprised we didn't get a King George on this cast. I thought he would be a shoe-in, but maybe they're saving him for later on if it's save it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I am surprised. I think he would have been a big guy.

SPEAKER_01

Huge. Yeah. Anyway. Thanks, doll. Ala. Thank you, Sam.

SPEAKER_00

You've taught me off the cliff. I feel so much better now.

SPEAKER_01

See you, Gorgie. Bye. Bye.

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