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The Traitors Australia - Season 3 Trailer (w/ Annabel Fidler)
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It’s a gay EMERGENCY! The Traitors Australia Season 3 cast has DROPPED and holy shit are we being fed.. from the reality TV garbage heap! Faithful diva with the best soft naturals going round, Annabel Fidler joins Sam to go through the cast and predict some insane fan-fiction theories about what is to come. A lot is riding on this Ten! Let’s not let Annabel down. The babes also touchdown on the Traitors multi-verse including UK Celebrity, Ireland and more.
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Intro
SPEAKER_01This podcast was produced on the land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation.
SPEAKER_00The content is hideous.
SPEAKER_02Sorry about this. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00Hiya. Hiya.
Frida's TV Debut
SPEAKER_01Baby girl. We're here. We're alive. We're doing it. We're doing it. We're exhausted, but it's a gay emergency, and we had to discuss this. The tree message you I was like, listen, doll.
SPEAKER_00It's all pause on deck right now. Even Frida's ready.
SPEAKER_01Frida is couldn't be readier. She was born ready for this moment.
SPEAKER_00The cast.
SPEAKER_01This cast is fucked up. But before we get into that, I need to tell you about Frida's TV debut.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay. Tell me, because you can't just tease that to me and then not give me all the graphic details. What was it? Silver screen, big screen.
SPEAKER_01Well, look, we're starting small. We're starting in infomercial adjacent. Oh. Um, I believe it's some SponCon on some like Channel 7 show called like healthy and wellness or some shit. Um, but you will see Frida Winina Margarita with Dr. Kate of Bondi Vet and Real Housewives of Sydney Fame. Is it pink for dogs? Is that what she is? She does get fat shamed and teeth shamed.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, Frida, don't listen.
SPEAKER_01She's like, how often do you brush your teeth? And looks at me and I'm like, who the fuck? How am I what? Brushing this dog's teeth.
SPEAKER_00Dogs pay big money to get a fat ass like this, let me tell you. I agree.
SPEAKER_01I agree. You're beautiful just how you are.
SPEAKER_00Flawless.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, so that was fun. Okay, I love that. Yeah, it'll be out, I think like early next month. You better believe I'll be milking that content.
SPEAKER_00Let's get the movie poster. I want a huge cardboard cut out.
SPEAKER_01We'll do a trade.
SPEAKER_00Can we book out a cinema or a laugh?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. We'll do like a meet and greet situation with Frida.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, please. Yes. I do. I think that's great.
SPEAKER_01And so you are.
Annabel's Busy
SPEAKER_01It's a busy time to be a trader because you are doing A hat with Puyah, which I'm listening to and loving on possibly the best season to ever happen, celebrity UK traders.
SPEAKER_00Traitor's season has started early this year. And I am just gagged. Like we just had Trader's Island, which was perfectly watchable.
SPEAKER_01I loved it. Mainly for the accents and oh, we haven't even debriefed on Ireland. We've not even debriefed on Island. Let's talk about what was his name? Ben.
SPEAKER_00Oh, you are Ben.
SPEAKER_01The things Ben did to me on the inside.
SPEAKER_00You love them a little bit fascist.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I want I want like an angry straight man.
SPEAKER_00I know. I know.
SPEAKER_01I've been literally like I know. I listen to the podcast.
SPEAKER_00I listened to the podcast. I've been listening to your oh my god, what is it? It's not made in Bondi, it's the Aussie Shaw coverage, and I'm just like, Sam, do I need to stage an intervention?
SPEAKER_01It's so good.
SPEAKER_00But yeah. Traders Canada starts next week. We've got Celebrity Traders UK.
SPEAKER_01Are there celebs on this one of Canada?
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01All or just like if you argue. They always do a few years. They're doing the like you got.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Truly blessed. And then Celebrity
The Celebrity Traitors UK is Amazing
SPEAKER_00UK traders is just the best thing that's ever happened to me in my entire life, and I could explode.
SPEAKER_01The Alan Carr content is like we have to keep we have to pause when watching because we are just like screaming. We are like the the wrists are a limp in our household during Alan Carr on screen.
SPEAKER_00I could watch Alan Carr and Tom Daly bicker in the way only besties can be savage to each other for the rest of my life. Have you seen the latest shot of Jonathan Ross dressed as Claudia?
SPEAKER_01No, I haven't. But I have seen, thanks to 10 social media before I've seen the episode, Tom Daly's shower scene.
SPEAKER_00Tom Daly shower scene.
SPEAKER_01We won. Okay. Move over Freddy. Freddie Who?
SPEAKER_00And this time I'm seeing him naked consensually. Exactly. Yes.
SPEAKER_01So that's good. Yeah, UK, amazing. Zero notes. Ireland was. Yeah, you're right. Watchable was what I'll say for Ireland. I got excited because they were excited. Yeah, it was a- Because it was new and they were you could tell they were like really frothing.
SPEAKER_00It was a good season. I would put it top mid tier.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Top mid. Canada. I struggled with the last one, not gonna lie.
SPEAKER_00People do struggle with Canada.
SPEAKER_01I struggle with all Canadian reality TV though, because they're just too nice. I'm like, I need shade.
SPEAKER_00But they're also unhinged. Like they just make the most insane decisions.
SPEAKER_01They really do. I did love, wasn't there like a there was a brother sister?
SPEAKER_00Oh. There was a brother-sister, Kira and Nick, I wouldn't say.
SPEAKER_01They were hot. Like both of them.
SPEAKER_00They were hot. They were both hot. Um if we were gonna do a little bit of help me step bro, it would be them.
SPEAKER_01It's was giving porn search terms.
SPEAKER_00Also, I loved Michael John, the creepy one who looked like a troll who would kind of sexually harass the women.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was there.
SPEAKER_00He was there.
SPEAKER_01So that's right, and you'll be covering that on babes.
SPEAKER_00So Canada will be on Babes on the Brink.
SPEAKER_01But you are busy.
SPEAKER_00Uh anything UK or UK adjacent will be uh with Pooya on We Know the Traiters.
SPEAKER_01I loved the BBC bit. When you were like the BBC, and Pooh was like, go on. And I could just say, and it is not a I wasn't watching the video, but I could just hear your face through the audio.
SPEAKER_00This isn't cringe part. I'm like, I've it was a stare-off because I'm like, don't dare me to say it because I'll say it, Pooya.
SPEAKER_02Like so good.
SPEAKER_00And I'm not the one who'll get in trouble.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, exactly. Oh, so good. Absolutely. I could see the higher ups that are getting very concerned. So
The Traitors Australia Season 3 Trailer
SPEAKER_01we had so do you think this cast drop from 10 was planned? Or did the leak happen and then they were like, fuck, might as well just drop it.
SPEAKER_00I think that they had to be proactive about it. So let me give you my whole emotional thing through this. They have been teasing for ever since my season was cancelled. Well, it was cancelled after my season. My season also is a cancellable offense. Um they have been.
SPEAKER_01No fault of yours.
SPEAKER_00Threatening to they've been threatening to renew it. So it had kind of got to the point where we hear it's being renewed rumours, and I roll my eyes and I go, yeah, sure, whatever.
SPEAKER_01Sure, Jan.
SPEAKER_00Confirmed it is renewed. Okay. Then I start hearing the rumours about who's going to release.
SPEAKER_01I may have contributed to. Because I was hearing whispers about other ex-reality TV celebs that aren't cast. Yes. But that's definitely I reckon those people were in conversations.
SPEAKER_00I think they were in conversations. I'm hearing mixages of ones who were on, who weren't on. Thank God we didn't get Tim Dormer, for instance. That was very great.
SPEAKER_01That was a I was like, I feel like that passed that psych evaluation. But anyway.
SPEAKER_00Sorry, doll. Um, I mean, not that that is a deal breaker for them. Um in fact, if you've done a stint in a psych ward, your preferred casting. Case in point. Um so when we they came back out again, I'm like, no, this was a leaky bucket already. If you've got a whole batch of, I don't want to say former reality TV stars. What do we call them? Not stars. Because they are not stars.
SPEAKER_01Look, there I would say there are some absolute stars in this cast, and there are some that I'm like, hmm.
SPEAKER_00I forgot have not realized or remembered you existed in 20 years.
SPEAKER_01But overall, it's amazing. And it's very, it's like they did this cast for me. Because this is the cringiest cast of all time of a reality show. And I am so fucking excited to watch this show.
SPEAKER_00I I again, let's so I now am finding out the cast, and I I can't so I'm stressed. Yeah. Because I am so personally invested in this season being a success. I am so sick and tired of Australia being shot on for having the worst version of the franchise when the first season was great and the second season is the most talked about.
SPEAKER_01Well, that so that's the thing. So I don't think it's shadow. I think I mean it is shad on on Reddit. But hey, why you got my name in your mouth? Do you know what I mean? It's kind of like stop talking about me then if you hate it so much. Do you know what I love? Like every now and then some random new person on the Reddit will come up and go, just finished AU season two. And I'm like, here we go! And I'm like, ooh, what have they got to say? And it's like, what the fuck? And I'm love, and they're so mad, they're always so mad. I'm like so mad. I'm like, yeah, you're mad, but are you not entertained?
SPEAKER_00Every, every single week. It came out over two years ago. There's someone new, angry about it every single week. What else is having that effect?
SPEAKER_01And then everyone will say I can't wait for Evan Ross Katz to finally watch it. He'll be like, like, do you know what I'm about?
SPEAKER_00I know, I know. It's gonna be huge. I can't watch! I'm not finished ranting. So they all then claim that it got cancelled because season two was such a bad season. No, as if you would cancel a show after like the messiest ending like that ever, it was up against the block people.
SPEAKER_01Also, they've got that money. Spoilers, but they've got that money, so they can, you know, it's it's a it's a circular economy over there.
SPEAKER_00So I need this to be a big comeback, and I'm stressed because this cast seems even denser than mine. And that is an achievement because famously the densest cast of all.
SPEAKER_01And when we're saying density, we're referring to lack of previous interaction with the traders, general IQ.
SPEAKER_00General IQ and lack of experience having watched the traders. Accomate least likely to be competent, is what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01All I can say is it's gonna be like I can't remember which US season was it where the survivor people just ran rings around everyone. Was it the first one?
SPEAKER_00It was the first one.
SPEAKER_01It's gonna be like that, because we've got four Survivor people who are gamers! Gamers! We got the gamers, and then we've got the Love Islands and whatnot. So I think it's gonna be like the gamers being like let the only people taking it seriously. The rest of them are gonna be there for the appearance fee. Absolutely. I'm not mad about so.
SPEAKER_00This is what I mean. I'm here. I need this to be a success. I need you to sell me on why I'm excited about this, and I'm excited to go through it because I want this to be brilliant and I want to love all of these people. Yeah, but I want to have friends from Australian traitors. I'm desperate for them.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I was hoping for a few normies, because you know, this is a show I would do.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Like I don't think I could do Island show because I I can't not eat for like 20 minutes. I turn into a cunt. So I think I could do this one. The breakfast is chic.
SPEAKER_00It's just of course, you would be amazing. They could find amazing normies.
SPEAKER_01I could do this one. It's like the only one I would do. This is a good one. And it's a what? Films in like two weeks?
SPEAKER_00This is what I mean. Three weeks. What's yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I love that.
SPEAKER_00This cast confounds me because clearly they've true chosen to do all celebrities, celebrities, because they want the audience. They need a compelling, this is why you watch this event. Is this the cast you put together in order to bring in an audience?
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna say yes. Okay, alright. Like, I think I am the audience for this cast. Okay, and then there's also it'll bring in all of the people that watch all these other silly shows that you probably don't watch. I don't watch. So I'm watching like 90% of these shows. So for me, this is like all stars of like the dumbest shows ever. The Bachelor ones I'm not familiar with, so that we're gonna struggle with them when we go through the cast. But literally, I'm very familiar with most of these people. Okay. In a like creepy way.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I'm really excited. I am really excited.
SPEAKER_01Should we go through it? Let's go through that. Let's just fucking do Oh, we buried the fucking lead. Gretel Colline's hair in the promo.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01The gay involved in this act of terrorism against our girl Gretel needs to be, I'm gonna say it, euthanized. Shot on site.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Disgusting. Our queen deserves better.
SPEAKER_00And I've just been watching her on the Amazing Race, and she looked excellent there.
SPEAKER_01With her daughter Epiphany.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, Epiphany is still laugh. They hate each other so much, and I'm obsessed. Like, you shouldn't have to try that hard to like each other and go on TV.
SPEAKER_01But I think Greta was the perfect casting choice for host. I think it's so good, but the styling I'm gonna need to see. Like, come on, either go full Claudia Winkleman and just like who gives a fuck? Or full Alan Cumming because was her name Siobhan? Yeah, she was somewhere in between and didn't work. I'm gonna say it.
SPEAKER_00I mean lesbians. I'm gonna say it.
SPEAKER_01When they when they put that headband on her with the like playing card attached to it, honey.
SPEAKER_00Lesbians.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no, no. You either go full camp or not at all.
SPEAKER_00No, we don't go made this in a craft or noon. But anyway.
SPEAKER_01We digress. Um, are you you happy to see Gretel hosting?
SPEAKER_00I am. It really brings me back to my big brother days. It brought me back to the turkey slapping scandal. When we had prime ministers who would comment on what was going on on reality TV.
SPEAKER_01That was so good.
SPEAKER_00So bring that back. I've you know, I'm a fan of Gretel actually. I've read her books.
SPEAKER_01Yes, she's she's yeah, she's great. She's solid. Others are good choice. You're not gonna miss uh Roger.
SPEAKER_00Roger has his own thing going on now. He's on the floor.
SPEAKER_01Oh, is that like a that's like a deal or no deal vibe?
SPEAKER_00But with quizzes. Oh it's funny. Okay, yeah. I've not watched it.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. Well, love and light to you, Roger.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, love and light to you, Roger, wishing you all the best.
SPEAKER_01But also, I think they realised, I think the producers are smart, they watched the international seasons, they're like, oh, we need a campus bar host. We can't have this dude. I don't know, he he tried, he did alright. Traders is for the gays. It's for the gays, so give us mother, and they delivered.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. No, the gays and housewives, like that's who's watching this.
SPEAKER_01Well, that's oh my god, don't. And that's who they've cast. So excited. Yeah. Alright, we're gonna do this alphabetically.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Uh, so first up, we have to talk about AJ from Australian Survivor. Perfect! Perfect choice.
SPEAKER_00I hate hate this so much. I love this.
SPEAKER_01Perfect choice.
SPEAKER_00I hate this. You know why I hate this? Because in this cast, this man's gonna get a sympathetic edit.
SPEAKER_01You reckon? Nah. Because they want to build the story unless they go full, he's changed, he's white. Nah, they're gonna go, he's a cheeky, he's the deep most devious gamer of the moment.
SPEAKER_00But they'll try and make him seem smart when famously everything, all of his lies were crafted by ChatGPT.
SPEAKER_01They were.
SPEAKER_00He delivers them with the conviction of But his flirt game was so good. Me faking an orgasm. And I just no, no, I like no, no. This is a hard no for me. I only know the survivor players.
SPEAKER_01Okay, okay. But hard noise, and you don't want him in your personal space, or hard no for him as a casting choice.
SPEAKER_00He makes my skin crawl, whether he like I have never had the distinct pleasure of meeting this man. Yeah. And I can live like that. See, I I don't want him on my TV.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, okay, okay. I did the because everything you're saying is exactly how I spoke about him when we were recapping his season of Australian Survivor, but I've since kind of come around in the way where I'm like, yeah, but fuck I loved hating him. It was so fun. And there was a few weeks there where he was carrying the storyline.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna say it. I I'm repressing that season from my memory.
SPEAKER_01Do you think he's gonna be a little bit like uh your best mate Sam?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so my concern here is that he would I think if they that he will waste a traitor's spot because they've got to give it to him.
SPEAKER_01They'll so give it to him.
SPEAKER_00They've got to give it to one of the survivor players. I hope they give it to Kirby because I think she'd actually be much better at it.
SPEAKER_01And she's got the world's best poker face. So she would slay as a trade-ar.
SPEAKER_00She's a great liar. I think everyone will suspect AJ, but he's such a terrible liar, truth teller, everything. He's so fake and phony.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Maybe an early banishment we can manifest.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he'll probably rub people the wrong way. I'm worried for Kirby that she might get taken out first because threat level, but No, no, no. Uh, next is Alex Nation from The Bachelor, I'm told, but I have zero point of reference.
SPEAKER_00Is Alex Nation the one who was on that ad where they said he goes, I'm a an astrona an astronomer, and she goes, Oh my god, that's so great, I'm a Pisces, or something along those lines. Was she that one?
SPEAKER_01From the Matt Agnew season. Is that her?
SPEAKER_00I only remember the advert.
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah, I think that could be her. Yeah. Um, I don't know. Sounds like she's doing well.
SPEAKER_00What does she look like? Just she's hot. I recognise her face, I think.
SPEAKER_01Where is she? Here she is with her there. She is. Uh no, maybe not.
SPEAKER_00We don't know her, sorry.
SPEAKER_01You know, I don't think I know her. She just looks like an influencer.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And like a mum, like a mum fluencer. Yeah. You know. Uh, yeah, I have nothing to say about these bachelor people.
SPEAKER_00The other one I had intel, who and I maybe it was Kira, she began with a K. All of this Intel was got from other gays. Right. Keep in mind at this point.
SPEAKER_01The group chat. I heard about this gay group chat. The gay group chat.
SPEAKER_00I was like, where's my you don't want to be in this group chat? I'm telling you right now. You straight up don't.
SPEAKER_01I actually am so bad. I'm like the worst in a group chat. I like I contribute like once a month, and then I'm like, mute.
SPEAKER_00We are several wines deep at this point. Um she is a villain, she is a C-word, is what they say. Oh, about the other bachelor girl. So that's the only intel I have.
SPEAKER_01Next is Alvin from Master Chef. Love. Like fucking love. When this one I was like, oh, okay, random, but sweet.
SPEAKER_00He's a nice guy. I think I can get behind him.
SPEAKER_01He's like, you know, fabulous, gay.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01He's gonna win everyone over just by being kooky and fun, I think.
SPEAKER_00And then probably be murdered first because he's Asian. You think so? Yes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, with this lot. Yes. I don't know. There's yeah. For Channel 10, this is giving their like their mid-range diversity. Do you know what I mean? But it's it's just scraping by. But in Australian television standards, they are like doing very well.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, for Australia, they're doing very well. My prediction, episode one, the traders say, I don't know about Alvin, he just seems sneaky.
SPEAKER_01Uh.
SPEAKER_00And then he gets murdered.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, true.
SPEAKER_00But are we rooting for him?
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. I love.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think he's great.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, this is good. And so Alvin is like following in like Khan's footsteps here. Like Master Chef people being cast on competition shows that aren't about cooking. I think that's the only other time that's ever happened, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, I dropped off Master Chef quite a while ago, but I am familiar with Alvin's work.
SPEAKER_01Great, great, yeah. And he brings uh great eyewear. So I expect Camp eyewear and fabulous looks.
SPEAKER_00And I hope he's smart as well. Yeah, I think he is. He's gotta be smarter than some of us.
SPEAKER_01Anyone that can cook like that, I think it takes a bit of brain power. Looking forward to Elvin. Uh okay, next is Cam Merchant from Married at First Sight. Oh my god. You don't fuck with math.
SPEAKER_00I only have the gays group chat intel on this one. Where I'm only nice one, you know, sweetie, married with kids now. It's a miracle.
SPEAKER_01He's very handsome.
SPEAKER_00I was gonna say, is he your type as this sort of very okay?
SPEAKER_01He's cute, no?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah. In a kind of like Yes, yes, yeah. He seems sweet.
SPEAKER_01He's a dag.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I think he's good, but yeah, the I mean, if you got through maths and Australia like still like loves you, like well done.
SPEAKER_00Especially while I'm doing my predictions, Cam makes it far into the game. Um always oblivious, never really has any idea what's going on.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, oh yeah, he'll be like, What is what are we doing?
SPEAKER_00P s is good friends with one of the traitors, is never perceived as a threat for murder or banishment.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Yeah, I c I can see that happening.
SPEAKER_00I'm not spoiled on anything, by the way. I've this is I'm just predicting.
SPEAKER_01No, no. Next is Claudia. From Love Island, Australia. Okay. Never heard of her more. Never heard of her either. She's hot. You Google her and it says, Are Claudia and Austin still together? Um, let's find out. Yes, they are.
unknownMiracle.
SPEAKER_01So again, they're giving us some lovable, they're giving us um.
SPEAKER_00I think we also need to do like most likely to be sexually harassed by AJ.
SPEAKER_01Oh, we need eyes on Claudia around AJ. For sure.
SPEAKER_00He does like a blonde though, so yeah, true.
SPEAKER_01She might be marked safe from AJ's wrath. I mean, look.
SPEAKER_00She is chat GPT.
SPEAKER_01She's gorgy. I'd hate to judge a gorgeous woman that's been on Love Island, but let's see what Love Island Wiki has to say. Um yeah. She did well. She she won.
SPEAKER_00Studied biomedicine. Yeah. I made that up.
SPEAKER_01She won Love Island with Austin and they're still together. So wow. She's from Adelaide. She's 26. Alright. That's I'm sorry, she sounds boring to me.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, snooze.
SPEAKER_01Like, I don't want someone that won Love Island to come up. I want someone that got like removed from the villa for being like too sexual. That's who I want on this show, you know?
SPEAKER_00Exactly. If you weren't going to give us like a high gamer cast, at least give me the messiest cast that could be created.
SPEAKER_01Now the next two we can almost discuss in tandem, and this was the one where I was like, wow, Tanner really leaning into the nostalgia at the moment with the big broth, the return of big brother, um, Gretel as the host, and then now on this show we get Cosima DeVito and Dicko from OG Australian Idol. Like, what? Surely you're familiar.
SPEAKER_00Yes, completely. Cosima's the one where I'm like, I have not thought about you in 20 years.
SPEAKER_01I mean, her name is she's one of those like who people that gets thrown out. Like random gays will just be like, oh Costuma's a veto. Like, she's like an she's like a bit of a anecdote, you know. But I love that. To have her return on TV, what, 20 plus years?
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01Uh amazing.
SPEAKER_00I'm into that. Dicko. Wasn't Dicko cancelled? Ugh.
SPEAKER_01Probably.
SPEAKER_00Probably. Who cares? Anyway.
SPEAKER_01Dicko, we do you know who they needed as well? Was is Paulini.
SPEAKER_00They did. They did.
SPEAKER_01To have like a big mistake, huge moment. Yes. With the dress.
SPEAKER_00I thought you were gonna go for Kyle Sanderland's, but absolutely not.
SPEAKER_01I don't fuck with McKay.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely not. The Dicko, last time I really saw him on television was when he was hosting Australian Survivor, the pre-channel 20.
SPEAKER_01What? Celebrity uh season. Yes. In Vanuatu. Yes. I've totally forgot about that. Is that on like seven?
SPEAKER_00I don't know. It's I had the guy who had the affair with Pauline Hanson and then did a lie detect test about it. Honestly. Iconic season. Iconic season.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, iconic.
SPEAKER_00Um, so yeah, I'm look, I'm quite enthusiastic to have Dick O'Brien. No, I love he will play the role of like the token chauvinist who just doesn't believe anything women are saying at the round table. And I think it'll be great.
SPEAKER_01I think he's gonna be one of the most well-known cast members. I think most of the cast, I don't know, anyone born before like I know some of these younger people might be like, who is that? Um, which is gonna make us feel old. But yeah, I welcome Dico to this cast. Him and Cosima. Like, that's just it's crazy to me that this is happening.
SPEAKER_00Frida's going full A on me right now. Fit of consent, darling. I'm kind of into it.
SPEAKER_01Okay, next is Mother Quake number one. Yeah. Gamble from The Rural Housewives of Melbourne. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00I only know of her via the gays group chat where I heard dumbest be alive.
SPEAKER_01Oh, just okay. So, Gamble. She breeds Pomeranians.
SPEAKER_00Oh, oh yes, I did hear that too, which I was saying.
SPEAKER_01She lives in like Red Hill or like, you know, Peninsula Way. Um, she's got a fabulous, like, gay stepson. Oh, love. Um, she's married to an eye surgeon called Wolf Pup.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, I did remove that she calls him Wolf Pop.
SPEAKER_01He looks a bit Frankenstein, he looks a bit like lobotomized, but we love him.
SPEAKER_00Why do we call him Wolf Pup?
SPEAKER_01I don't know, because she calls him that.
SPEAKER_00She's like, Wofie!
SPEAKER_01Wolf Wolf. Um she's so good. When provoked, she is like a viper. Like, I really hope people just start accusing her straight away because we're gonna get like incredible defensive content from Gamby.
SPEAKER_00Prediction.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Her and Henry have a bit of a show flirt match. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01She gets Zen Hen.
SPEAKER_00Zen Hen. He flirts with her for strategy. She goes along with it. She gets into a screaming match with AJ at a round table.
SPEAKER_01I love these predictions. They're like fanfiction. Oh yeah, I'm just going crazy. I love it, I love it. Uh, I think look, unfortunately, if the US seasons are to go by, Housewives don't um have great track records. I mean, we did have we did have a a winning Housewife last season, but what, there was like four of them or three of them?
SPEAKER_00Uh she didn't. Survivors are gonna drive the strategy here. AJ and Henry, and I love you, Henry, so I say this with love. Don't think I'm lumping you in with AJ. AJ and Henry are the kind of men who are delusional about their sex appeal with an older generation of women. Only slightly delusional because sometimes it does work.
SPEAKER_01True.
SPEAKER_00Both of them are going to go for the flirt strategy, especially with the older ladies.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I think Kirby is going to perceive the housewives as women she can get influence over. So I I think he could be right.
SPEAKER_01I think Henry, and look, Henry's got a new look. He's cut the hair, he's looking a little bit more corporate in this suit. Um, when was the last time we saw Henry? What season was he on? I can't fucking know.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, are we getting to Henry now?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he's he's actually next. That's why I was like perfect.
SPEAKER_00Henry. I have been worried about Henry, and I'm so glad he's back because love him.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he was good. I I'm surprised we haven't seen him sooner on a returnee. He did come back though, right? One time.
SPEAKER_00So he was on season two. Um then he came back for All Star.
SPEAKER_01That's right.
SPEAKER_00Where he felt he just burnt out. He went kind of too hard. Yeah. They end Nick had to end up cutting him early because he got into a fight with Harry. Um God. And I think Henry kind of spiraled after that season. Okay. And he's sort of made intermittent returns to Instagram where he kind of relaunches his personal brand and then disappears again.
SPEAKER_01Because he was like a kind of bar and bae, like um, yoga instructor, wasn't he? That was his whole shtick was I'm a yoga instructor.
SPEAKER_00He's not really a yoga instructor. Of course not.
SPEAKER_01But like they went with that.
SPEAKER_00And then, but then he was selling something on Instagram. I don't remember.
SPEAKER_01He gives me Crypto Bro energy hard.
SPEAKER_00I wanted to know if he was okay. And I've thought so many times over the years about reaching out and being like, Are you okay? And just never have. And then here he appears on Twitter's Him and Kirby are the two where I'm like, Yes, I'm really into this.
SPEAKER_01Oh, big time. Kirby's a get. Yes. Yeah. Uh all right, there's some brothers.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Josh Packham. This is another Love Island Stitch.
SPEAKER_00Were they both on the block together as well or something?
SPEAKER_01Josh, yeah, probably. What does it say? Yeah. Oh, see, look. I my prediction is that I'm going to be You're gonna wanna fuck them so bad. You're gonna want to fuck them so bad. That's my prediction. Them on the show.
SPEAKER_00Absolute non-entity.
SPEAKER_01Also a Love Island winner. So why are they putting these winners on? I mean, look.
SPEAKER_00Were they also on the block?
SPEAKER_01They like dump their man candy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. No. They will contribute absolutely nothing and you will have a stiffy.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna have a stiffy, that's guaranteed. No, I don't think they were on the block. I feel like it would say.
SPEAKER_00No, they were on another show. They were online.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, they were on the block. You're right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Of course they were. Yeah, here you go. Oh, no, they're not hot at all.
SPEAKER_00Are they they're twins, but no, I you guarantee you're gonna be horny for them. I don't care what you say now.
SPEAKER_01These matching avocado shirts that I'm looking at. Yeah. Not the vibe. Yeah, look, of course I am, because they're dumb straight guys on Australian television. But you know, yeah, my prediction, snooze first. There's gonna be such divisions by category, isn't there? Yes. All of the love island and bachelors are gonna form this like nucleus of stupidity.
SPEAKER_00The survivor's gonna be overplaying and trying to form alliances, even though it's not an alliance game.
SPEAKER_01And then like Reese and Queen Kong and Monake and Alvin are just gonna be like the gay corner. Like honestly, with maybe the housewives, I don't know. Oh, here we go. This is your girl next, Kira Maguire. Is this this is the K one from uh Batchin?
SPEAKER_00I there was a lot of alcohol consumed, so I can't remember if C word was used as a slur or as a compliment.
SPEAKER_01Um let's go with a bit of both. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, she looks a bit like Erica Jane or something. She's kind of I don't know, she's serving in this pig. Let's um let's have a look. Let's get up. Oh, okay. Oh, I know this bitch.
SPEAKER_00She's gonna be sexually harassed by AJ. Most likely to be sexually harassed by AJ.
SPEAKER_01Definitely. Is she a wag? Probably. She's giving hardcore wag. These pictures are incredible.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, she's gorgeous.
SPEAKER_01I'm ex- She's a gorgeous girl. Oh, I'm excited for her. Yeah, she's gonna be great.
SPEAKER_00I'm not. I think she'll be there and she'll be hot.
SPEAKER_01Nah, I'm hope. I've got high hopes for you, Kira.
SPEAKER_00Do you like the show? Do you like the traitors?
SPEAKER_01I love the traitors. Okay, alright. But I want it to be, you know, I want it to be equal parts good and cringy.
SPEAKER_00Okay, okay, okay. I think I just need to embrace this from your point of view.
SPEAKER_01Okay, yeah, yeah. I think you do. I think you need to lean in to and look, they're trying something different. And you've got to give that to them.
SPEAKER_00And it's so Australian TV to be like, what if we take this tried, tested, and beloved format and then mished it with Love Island.
SPEAKER_01And via JLP. Yeah. Yeah, totally. You're so right.
SPEAKER_00How do we introduce like remember when they did Big Brother but with a Love Island twist? It was No.
SPEAKER_01Or was that 10?
SPEAKER_00It was that was no, it was the last season of Big Brother, and they were like, but everyone's sexy and single.
SPEAKER_01It's like that's not Big Brother. That's a different we already had that show. Yeah. You're so right. It's very Australian TV to just confuse the shit out of it, the format.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01And cast a fuckload of influences. Yes, yes. And here we are. Here we go. Um, our girl Kirby is next. I'm stoked for her. Um she's gonna play well, but that's my worry, is that she's gonna play too well and everyone's gonna be like, oh no. Get that bitch out.
SPEAKER_00She's so incredibly likable. I think she knows to turn it down.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And that she's gonna get there no gamers other than the survivor people. I back her to be the most chill of the show.
SPEAKER_01She'll be the most social. I think the other survivors might stick together. She might, oh actually, Shane will probably mingle as well. Don't you think?
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_00I think so. Kirby, yeah. Biggest risk to Kirby, in my opinion, again, I'm just saying because I don't know her sedatively, are AJ and Henry. And if they see her as a threat and they target her, Shane is gonna get left out because she's the older woman.
SPEAKER_01I hope the survivors don't do what they did on US season one where they like think they're playing Survivor. Yeah, Sandra, right? And they act like they're playing Survivor, and it's like no, like this is very, very different. Like you can't come in and start like you actually don't really need like alliances, you just need to convince people of your suspicions. It's a popularity context. It's a popularity context. You have to be good at you know, debating and convincing, you know, which these survivor players they think it's more about like just getting numbers, but I don't really think it is.
SPEAKER_00It's not about getting numbers, it's about being the most liked person there. Yeah, and I think Kirby can do that, being the most loud and the most wrong. Yeah, and that's also a prize.
SPEAKER_01But Kirby, I'm just glad we get more Kirby on my screen. Love her in everything.
SPEAKER_00God, imagine being Kirby, this huge get. She's like this rising star, she's just been one of the stars of International Survivor. Yeah, you get out there, and this is your cast. You'd be like, my appearance fee should have been three times as high.
SPEAKER_01True. Uh, I don't know. This next one's pretty huge for me. Uh, it's Chrissy Marsh from The Real Housewives of Sydney. Fuck me. So Chrissy, is do you know anything about Chrissy?
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_01So Chrissy is the one of two people that were on all three seasons of The Real Housewives of Sydney. So that show also died and they rebooted it. So she was one of the only people to stay on board. Her nickname is Chewbacca.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01Because she's a big hairy unit. Um, she's kind of like got this rambunctious, loud, kind of almost a bit bogan edge, but she's fucking rich. Like, I think she is married to someone whose net worth is in the billions. Uh, yeah, like they've they're full on the harbour with the yacht, like full. Their house is like insane. Uh, yeah, one of the richer housewives.
SPEAKER_02Already.
SPEAKER_01She's stunning, she's really funny. She's also one of the only housewives, especially from this last season's cast, who was willing to be like, oh yeah, um, you know, Johnny, if he's lucky, you know, maybe I'll give him a little yeah. Like, she makes dick jokes, she's happy to be sexual, and then some of the other housewives would get a bit pearl clutchy around her. You know, they like to slut chain out Chrissy. Um at home. We love snapping. So we live for Chrissy.
SPEAKER_00She's also the one who was rumoured to be the host before it was firmly announced it was Gretel.
SPEAKER_01Sorry? Yeah. That would have made absolutely no sense. No, don't do you see the articles.
SPEAKER_00There were articles about it. Oh, I did not see that. There were articles rumouring that she was the new host.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Kind of love that. Yeah. But like, what the fuck? Yeah. Happy to Chrissy. She also recently she has a podcast, of course, and she's recently been like slagging off the show a little bit. Like Housewives, that is, being like, because they've finished season three, there's no word if we're getting another one. She doesn't seem to think there will be. She's kind of like, I'm I'm good. Um, didn't have a great time last season. So she's out there slagging off the show.
SPEAKER_00She's diversifying your TV portfolio.
SPEAKER_01Exactly.
SPEAKER_00And we love that for so if she doesn't need the money, what's she doing housewives and all this for?
SPEAKER_01I think she likes being on TV. Yeah, I don't think I don't think her being on any of these shows about the money. Especially not housewives. I don't think, particularly in the Australian one, I don't think they get paid very much. Okay. And there's no prize money. It's just a vibe. I think she's doing this for the vibe, for the experience.
SPEAKER_00She's a poor housewife. Yeah, okay, mood.
SPEAKER_01You know, likes doing a thing. Um she's also got merch to push, they all do. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_00You don't need the fame for the money.
SPEAKER_01True, true, true. Queen Kong is next.
SPEAKER_00Yes, obsessed. This is such a good shout.
SPEAKER_01So, this is one of the few cast members that I know personally, so I'm very excited to have a pal on the show. We I love Queen, obviously. I'm not fucking say anything bad about Queen Kong. Uh, she did, though, get a bad edit on her last TV appearance, which was Global All Stars. Did you fuck with that?
SPEAKER_00I so I didn't watch it. This is one of the ones where I am familiar with her vicariously rather than actually watching the show. Things I know about her is that she's very talented, um, but then like thinks of herself as the mother hen. Yes. And no one really buys into that.
SPEAKER_01Very much that. And that's the that's the vibe we got on Global All Stars. She was sort of mothering, and this one particular drag queen from Italy, because it was the Global All-Stars, was decided that she was the devil. And weirdly, they edited it kind of in that girl's favor, which was weird, and the fandom all rallied around this like sookie bitch from Italy. I know I was watching it like reading the fan reaction. I was like, am I watching the same show as these people? Probably biased because I know this person, but it's also like what? So I'm coming for redemption here. Yeah, she's gonna be lovely and mother motherly on this show for sure.
SPEAKER_00Can I do a prediction?
SPEAKER_01Please.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I think I can see her having a Melinda Varga arc from Canada where she teams up with another queer. Yeah. They are so confident that this dedicated.
SPEAKER_01So they come as a package. Okay. As far as I'm concerned.
SPEAKER_00Queen Kong Reese, like tight duo, convinced they're right, and sees the moral high ground while ruthlessly bullying another gay they're convinced is a traitor. Convincing everyone that Alvin is evil and definitely a traitor, and then Alvin definitely not being a traitor, and then getting murdered.
SPEAKER_01I love that. Yeah. Uh jump scare cut two, Lawson from Maiden Bondi. This was This is why the fact that we're talking we're talking about Queen Kong and then now Lawson. I'm like, what universe are we in?
SPEAKER_00When I started hearing the Maiden Bondi cast rumours, I started depression spiralling. That's when I started freaking out.
SPEAKER_01Well, they're they're unemployed because that show has no I don't know, no longevity.
SPEAKER_00Tell me about Maiden Bondi.
SPEAKER_01So Maine Bondi, I think was one of the fucking most insane shows ever made. Highly recommend watching it. I'm also now gonna take this opportunity to plug my recaps I did with Maria. Like it was so, so good. Like this show was. Did you ever watch Made in Chelsea? No. Okay, so it's in the same universe as that. It's really stay, really stilted, really scripted content where like not for a second do you believe that anything happening is um real, but the audience is in on that. It's like East Enders, like it's it's not trying to be real. It's so stupid.
SPEAKER_00It's a bit like the hills.
SPEAKER_01Yes, it's exactly like the hills. You're watching it and you're like, oh, and they'll they'll do things like, oh, I'm just gonna go to the bar now and get another drink, and they'll be holding like a full drink. Like the like that actually happens, and you're like, ah, amazing. And so this season followed, you know, some rich brats in Sydney. Incredible. This guy has like a South African accent, which people bullied him online for.
SPEAKER_00Is he from South Africa?
SPEAKER_01Yes, but everyone just thought he was like a posh Australian, and he was being like, Oh, hey guys. That's Mel Arthur, man. And everyone was like, how this guy talks like a fuckhead. And then he came out, he did a video being like, I'm actually a South Africa on your gas.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01So I'm looking forward to that.
SPEAKER_00The survivors are gonna hate this guy. You reckon? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. He's cute. He's not my style, but he's like objectively very good looking.
SPEAKER_00I love this. I'm actually thrilled. I am going, I'm already making my way through all of your sluts in the gold coast or sluts and cans coverage. Um, so I can learn about this other person that begins with M. I now need to go back and listen to the Maiden Bondi coverage.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god. Um, next is the other twin from the block we've already covered them. They they come as a package. Do you think they're gonna do that actually? Like they get one vote or some shit?
SPEAKER_00Oh god.
SPEAKER_01They're pictured together on the thing. I hope not.
SPEAKER_00Are they gonna do a twin twist?
SPEAKER_01They might do a twin twist. Like the Logan twin style.
SPEAKER_00They are doing nostalgia. They're going to do a twin twist.
SPEAKER_01If they do full swapsies.
SPEAKER_00Okay, which one does the turkey slapping? Which one does the turkey swap? I mean, look.
SPEAKER_01I got two holes, boys. Take one each. Oh my god. Uh speaking of horny as fuck, Manaki is next who is on said show. This is this couldn't be better for me. This is like full cross promo for my Aussie Shaw recaps happening weekly at the moment. Manaki is like our one queer cast member. Actually, no, we've got Lexi as well, but um he is flying the flag. In the his first season, he was like, I'm bisexual. And then in the second season, he was like, I'm gay.
SPEAKER_00Oh I love a bioraising by person.
SPEAKER_01So but so this but the biorazure is real on Aussie Shaw, because Lexi also did the same thing.
SPEAKER_00Oh, obsessed.
SPEAKER_01Um yeah, we love that. But he's a gorgeous man, he's a very tall. I saw him recently just like on the street, and I was like, oh my god, Monaki. And he's gorgeous, very tall, very white teeth. Um Is he a slut? Yes. You can't not be and be on Aussie Shaw. Okay. Um Yeah, in the most recent episode, he gets some dick finally in the house and he's spagging hotties. Love him as sure. I think he's actually gonna be really good on this.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_01Because that you know the Aussie Show, they're loud and crazy. Like you the bull in China shop like vibes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I can see. Do you think he's gonna get some dick in this house?
SPEAKER_01Probably not. No. I don't think there's anyone down to clown. But hey, stranger things have happened.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I honestly I'd be really into the season if that happened. Like if we're going to Love Island twist on the traitors, let that happen.
SPEAKER_01I think you're gonna really like him.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Like really lovable character. Uh another Love Island one. Rachel.
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_01Let's have a quick Google. What have you got for us, Rachel? If there's not the word scandal in like the first I know.
SPEAKER_00When I saw it was Nasser and Tim Dormer, at least there was scandal.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, see that would have been good. Alright. Oh, oh.
SPEAKER_00Okay, she's got small naturals.
SPEAKER_01Yep. She's Scott Snatchers. Oh, she got dumped on day 10.
SPEAKER_00Oh, Pilates instructor and social media creator. Yeah, look, I'm into it. Okay.
SPEAKER_01I'm not um that opposed to it.
SPEAKER_00Most likely to come out as dating Henry after the season.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, big time. Yeah. If not gamble. One of the housewives. Look, Rachel, prove it's wrong, but at this point, I'm not that excited. Uh next is Rhys Nicholson. Incredible. Do you know anything about him?
SPEAKER_00Tell me. Don't know anything about Reese. Well, I only from the gaze trap.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Uh, so they are a very well-known comedian um in Australia. They have the same role that Alan Carr plays at with Graham Norton on Drag Race. So they are like Rue's, like, you know sort of local insight. Okay. And now it's Michelle, because Rue's fallen off the drag race Bamagan. But uh, yeah, very respected comedian in Australia, owns a comedy venue on Burke Street with their partner Kyron. Cool Comedy Republic, it's really gorgeous. Yeah, just a bit of a legend and a really nice person and very funny.
SPEAKER_00Okay, voted for person I'm most likely to want to be friends with.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you're gonna love race. Alright.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Into it.
SPEAKER_01I think good. And again, similar to some like maybe Dicko and Kirby. I'm like, wow, these are like gets. Like this is a get.
SPEAKER_00So how do we think they'll play?
SPEAKER_01Similar to Alan Carr. I think Reese is there to make bit to do bits and not to play the game. I don't think Reese has any interest in winning the game, but Reese will be giving us very good television. Okay. Yeah. And being silly.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Uh Reese's also been on Taskmaster.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um so yeah. Booked and blessed.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Getting all the gigs. Um was great on that. So yeah.
SPEAKER_00Funny. Funny. Character moment. We're gonna need a lot of heavy lifting because let's be honest, the Love Island people aren't gonna be funny. They're just gonna be there. No, they're just gonna be there.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Uh okay, here we go. Rob Farnum.
SPEAKER_00Uh, this is the biggest get of the cast. This is the case. Let's let me see a photo. Oh god.
SPEAKER_01I love it. Just says on here it says musician. Really? Sure thing. Sure, Jad. Johnny Farnum's son. Wow. Look, it's because Robert Irwin wasn't available. Yeah, Robert.
SPEAKER_00Robert Irwin said no.
SPEAKER_01Robert Irwin said, bitch, I'm in the States doing dancing with the stars. Literally. And slang.
SPEAKER_00I'm in real TV. What do you mean you want me on here with Rachel from The Bachelor?
SPEAKER_01Rob Harnham can get the fuck away from me. I'm sorry. He's terrifying. I Joe might have some competition for most creepy.
SPEAKER_00We I know that we have the Rando relatives. You know, we have Taylor Swift.
SPEAKER_01Dylan Efron.
SPEAKER_00We have Dylan Ephron. We have Taylor Swift's mother-in-law. We do Oh, that's right.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00Like British parliamentarian.
SPEAKER_01But I'd it's a big cast, so they need to have had it out.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01You know, and Rob's doing Rub's doing great work.
SPEAKER_00I okay, look, I I'm am I excited to see him on the cast? No. Neither.
SPEAKER_01However. I'll agree with you finally for that.
SPEAKER_00However, I don't know already that he's terrible, which actually makes him better than I'd say a significant portion of this customer.
SPEAKER_01It's the same with all the Love Island girlies and the Bachelor of Girls. Although I've already written them off. You've already so no, but I'm I'm coming in with an open heart, an open mind with them. I'm like, prove me wrong. They've got one chance each to prove me wrong. So does little Robbie Farnham. Though the cast are gonna be like, oh, oh, the voice. The son of the voice. Like, do you know what I mean? Okay. It's gonna be Australiana. The the twins playing as one person are gonna be all up for him. Yeah, the the Logan twins are gonna be like, oh, bloody legend, mate. Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna really take it to a place of excited for the season now.
SPEAKER_00Now the fan fiction of the twin twist.
SPEAKER_01The twin twist is great, I can't wait. For the little for them to show us the little trapdoor. Maybe it's oh my god, they're both traders, but only one of them can be in the castle at a time. I loved it.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I love this season of the traitors.
SPEAKER_01Because it is getting tired. Like we we live for the trades, but it is getting a bit tired when you're like us and you watch all of it.
SPEAKER_00It's never getting tired. It's an It is getting tired.
SPEAKER_01That Trojan horse.
SPEAKER_00Okay, the missions get very tired.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, okay, look, let this be the messiest season of the traitors that existed.
SPEAKER_01Even messier than yours. I want the Reddit comments to be like, I thought season two was bad.
SPEAKER_00Season three is disgusting! In the traitors India, you had an old guy who napped throughout the entire show. You had influences screaming sister effort in each other. So I want this to be worse than that.
SPEAKER_01I reckon we can get there.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yep. And do you know who else is gonna help us do that?
SPEAKER_00Who?
SPEAKER_01Shane fucking Gould.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god. And we've got Shane Gould.
SPEAKER_01Like.
SPEAKER_00What is this timeline? What the fuck? Shane, uh like, this is so. This is a rift in the multiverse. It really is. Yeah. I would love for her to do well, but I can't see her making it past week one.
SPEAKER_01You reckon? People might feel bad. People love an Olympian and an old lady. And they might treat her like you know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but it's a popularity contest.
SPEAKER_01Look, I'm not mad if she goes week one. I'd I'm not, I'm famously not a fan of Shangold.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, because she's from the mateship era of Australian Survivor, which I hate.
SPEAKER_00She was boring on Survivor, and I think she'll be boring on this show.
SPEAKER_01She's like, I'm proof you can win with loyalty and oh cool.
SPEAKER_00She'll be boring on this show.
SPEAKER_01She'll be very boring. Yeah. Our final uh cast member is Tully from Big Brother.
SPEAKER_00Do I have any recollection of Tully?
SPEAKER_01So which Big Brother? Which one was she on? Because I gave up. When it left 10, I gave up, but I feel like she might have been on the last 10 one.
SPEAKER_00But they are casting across networks, so um They are, and I I need like it she s seems familiar, but I need flashbacks.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. She's taken Big Brother off her bio. She's already moved to things. Yeah, I remember her being quite cute, but yeah, I don't know, she's not for me. She's influencer. That's a big following. Yeah, that is a huge following. That's why they've got her on.
SPEAKER_00Oh, she was on Big Brother 10. Was I still watching at that point? Oh, on nine.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she used to look like that and she's had this crazy glow up. Yeah. She won, right?
SPEAKER_00Did she?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think so.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I have no memory. Did she?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_00Anyway, I It does make me feel like there's still potential for me to get influencer level hot though.
SPEAKER_01She yeah, she's she cleaned up hard. Um actual show.
SPEAKER_00She's out at seven. Oh she I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Oh fucking know.
SPEAKER_00Who knows?
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah, look.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's big b oh, so she came back for fourteen.
SPEAKER_01Oh, she did too. She did ten and fourteen.
SPEAKER_00Evicted. A thirteenth. She came thirteenth on ten and then on fourteen, eleven. So no, she's always Yeah, she doesn't mind.
SPEAKER_01In my mind, she was a winner, but I don't know. I didn't watch it.
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_01This was a that was when Big Brother went to a dark place after it left 10. Yeah. And I just couldn't. I refused. So yeah, so that's a bit it's a bit of a flex for them to, but I guess we we're in a different time now. Because back in the day they would never dare casting people from other networks.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Or if they did, they'd be like, I was on a show. You know what I mean? Like they wouldn't name it, but they're full naming it with this.
SPEAKER_00And I also think they're like, who knows which network's gonna own the traders?
SPEAKER_01Well, that's at the point where we live in a fucking world where, like, I don't know, soon there's gonna be like one streaming service that owns everything.
SPEAKER_00We're hot potatoing from network to network at this point.
SPEAKER_01And I guess they're making this for streaming, right? Like Paramount Plus.
SPEAKER_00Are they? I'm sure. Surely no, it'll be on free to work.
SPEAKER_01No, it'll be on free to no, but I mean, like, they're also there's that secondary audience of like selling it overseas. Yeah, and they don't have Jeff Propes to like shut down it being streamed in America.
SPEAKER_00So that was so toxic.
SPEAKER_01Right. So have I managed to get you a little bit more excited?
SPEAKER_00No, I am really excited about it now. I think I just needed it reframing. I mean, the only reason why I was so negative was because as I said, I need this to be a big success. Yes. And I'm looking at it and I'm gonna say these people aren't going to play the game well.
SPEAKER_01No, and you're absolutely right. I think they're not gonna play the game well at all.
SPEAKER_00But will it be a really compelling TV show? I think it could.
SPEAKER_01It could. Because the difference is between like celebrity UK traders, all of those people, because because of the success that the Traders has been in the UK, all of those people have watched it. All of them. Because everyone in the UK watched the traders.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01Here no one watched it. No one watched it. So I think a lot of these people are doing it for the paycheck for the appearance on TV to stay relevant. Um, and I don't think many of them, if it honestly, I think the Survivor players are gonna be the only people who have watched it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Like, honestly. You're telling me fucking And Shane won't have. Yeah, you're telling me Dicko and Reese Nicholson are watching The Traders. No.
SPEAKER_00I can see maybe Que Kong would watch at least real.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, true.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but that's not going on the show, but I think the people who would actually do their homework Alvin, Queen Kong, the Survivors.
SPEAKER_01I don't mind a messy game though, where people don't really know what's going on.
SPEAKER_00I know, but look what happened on mine.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, true.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, fingers crossed, I I'm whatever happens, I will become this season's biggest advocate.
SPEAKER_01Yay, me too. I can't wait for the Reddit comments. That's what I'm most excited about.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, Reddit is going to be over the moon. Yeah. They should have brought Sam back. Honestly, they that's You fit right in with this class two.
SPEAKER_01I'm actually really surprised they didn't. There's not a single returning traders player.
SPEAKER_00I think they should have brought Sam back. Maybe they will.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god. Maybe they will halfway through or some shit. I don't fucking know.
SPEAKER_00With the twin twist?
SPEAKER_01Maybe he's the third twin.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01Well, we did it.
SPEAKER_00We did it.
SPEAKER_01Thank you so much for joining me for this emergency episode. I believe it's airing early next year.
SPEAKER_00No idea.
SPEAKER_01That's what I kind of gathered from.
SPEAKER_00We ours aired in August. So.
SPEAKER_01I think it's gonna air before Survivor. Okay. I think it's gonna be like a Jan feb. Like after Big Brother. Because they've already dropped all this stuff. I don't know. Why not?
SPEAKER_00Alright, maybe.
SPEAKER_01And I think they want to test it. I don't know. I don't think they're that fussed about it. Because also they what? They shot it in the same location as the Kiwi show in New Zealand. Cheap Kiwi production. Cheap Kiwi production. They've piggybacked on that, which is very similar to what happens in the UK.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01With the American one piggybacking on their set. So that tells me that they're like not that fussed about this. I don't think it's just a bit of fun.
SPEAKER_00These people aren't going to demand much of an appearance fee, most of them anyway. No. So they can afford for this to flop. Which is why I'm so concerned. I can't afford for this to flop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I care.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, we'll see. Hopefully, they've at least signed some contracts that they have to do another one. Do you reckon they'll alternate, like the next one will be normies? Or do I do you think they're full celebrated?
SPEAKER_00I think it's gonna go full celebs lover. Next, it's gonna be all celebs who are all single.
SPEAKER_01Would you do it?
SPEAKER_00I have small naturals and an oversized nose. I am never going to get hard.
SPEAKER_01I would love a showdown between you and Sam again. Producers, if you're listening. I think that's a great idea.
SPEAKER_00Small naturals for the wind.
SPEAKER_01I'm also surprised we didn't get a King George on this cast. I thought he would be a shoe-in, but maybe they're saving him for later on if it's save it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I am surprised. I think he would have been a big guy.
SPEAKER_01Huge. Yeah. Anyway. Thanks, doll. Ala. Thank you, Sam.
SPEAKER_00You've taught me off the cliff. I feel so much better now.
SPEAKER_01See you, Gorgie. Bye. Bye.
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