Gay Propaganda (w/ Ash Flanders)

It might be Trump’s America, but it’s Ash and Sam’s couch.. And the gays have TOO MUCH to say about the dystopian Reality TV landscape.. and it’s not looking good. Keep up as these two homos get stuck into Real Housewives, Survivor, Intervision 2025, Big Brother UK and so many unhinged tangents. Plus subscribe to UNCUT for some Project Runway, Alien Earth and more.

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Transcript

Intro

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This podcast was produced on the land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation.

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Welcome to Australia.

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This is quite tragic. Someone who is such a connoisseur of reality television. The content is hideous.

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So sorry about this. Oh my god.

Diva Alert

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Diva. I don't know who's the bigger diva.

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Oh, you do.

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Dude, it's not me. It's this little diva. She's getting worse when that doorbell goes. Divas tend to do that. And it's like I start setting up the podcast equipment, and she looks at me and she's like.

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Who is it this time?

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She's like, which faggot have you got coming over today? And when can I bite their ankles? Don't you? You start licking your lips. Yes. How are you, Diva? I'm good. Have we started? Oh my god. We've we're on. Okay. Wow. Yes. Always on placeful for me. Life's a cabaret, dog.

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Oh Jesus. Um life is actually not a cabaret. Um I'm good. Life is actually not a cabaret. With Bethany going, go to sleep. Go to sleep. Oh my god, I think I'm gonna stop listening to Bethany's podcasts.

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You have to. I don't think it's good.

Bethany and Britney, Mescal and Pascal

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Like, look, I love Bethany. I love knowing that Bethany is making content. I don't need to consume it. People tell me about it enough, you know?

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And she really has a voice that is like, it's shocking that I want to put that, I choose to put that between my ears.

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It's like Trump content. Like it we will make its way to you anyway.

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And you don't need to go and look for it. Quantity over quality. Like she is just like ready to talk about anything at all times.

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Uh no, mainly things like what? Supermodel snack.

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Here's what I did first. Here's how I'm better than you. Here's why I'm always winning. Here's why you don't understand. Like, can I tell you? I'm crazy. I'm crazy.

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Winning, that's very Charlie Shane.

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And yeah.

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It is, yeah.

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But she's always literally, I think I want to make a Bethany Frankel bingo card where it's like every time she's gonna be a chance. Tuna salad, you know, like chicken salad. Yeah, but also I'll show and I'll go. Or like, you're playing chess, I'm playing check, you're playing checkers, I'm playing chess. Like, it's just like there's always like I started that, you know, I was the first one to do this. I was the first, like, yeah, she would be like, I was the first person to consider breathing oxygen.

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Like, God bless, but she didn't bring Mescal to America because that was um Eren.

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Yes, Erin discovered Mescal. Paul Mescal.

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Paul Mescal. She brought him well.

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I would thank her for that.

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Me too.

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And those thick little thighs. He wears shorts like no one else. Like an Irish man has never been able to pull off shorts.

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He's got such an Irish face, though, doesn't he? Like, I'm not the face is mid, let's be honest. Beyond. I can say that. Yeah. With a semi-shot.

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Well, he's very our face. It's like a big old nose and just a face.

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Yeah. No one's no.

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No. But there's something about him people just love. I think it is like boy next door kind of. Yeah, and that he's mum like talented. I want to say mildly. He's not like he's not like a genius. Like you don't look at him and get like really intimidated.

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He did was after sun, which was like, if you didn't cry, if you didn't sob like a child after that, there's something wrong with you.

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Then there is definitely something wrong with you.

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You didn't sob like a child after that?

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I got so bored in that. Like, I don't know if it was something I'd like an edible that I'd had. Like I might have been in the wrong mood, but I was just like, honestly, it got towards the end. I think I just skipped. Not skipped out of the room. Oh, skipped the film.

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Oh, well then that would be a good one.

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And then skipped out of the room. But I get it. I'm like, he's really depressed.

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He killed himself. Yeah. You like lit a cigarette and you're like, say, yeah. Suck it up.

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Your life's hard. Yeah. You're on a resort. What's so hard? Come on. You're poor Mescal. You'll make it work.

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But that was kind of what like gave him because he's got all this cred, no?

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From like Sally Rooney, from like was that it? Like, what started the I don't know. The Mescal. He just trained.

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Yeah. I don't know what I'm saying. And then him and I feel like he rose to fame at the same time as Pedro Pascal. Oh, Pedro. And I feel like they helped each other. Gay bait. They gay bait and their names rhyme.

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Mescal and Pascal. It just yeah, it just wasn't.

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I think people got them mixed up or something. I don't know. We digress. Um, what have you been

Fringe Show

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up to? You've uh your little fringe moment.

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I've been I've got a fringe moment coming up. The show is called, as you know.

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Instructions.

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Instructions.

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But it's like a rotating roster.

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That's it. I barely know the title because I don't know the script yet. I don't know anything about it. Is it a script? I don't know. I turn up and I get told what to do.

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I was hoping it would be you just on stage with a bottle of rose topics. Free associating.

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You would be producing that job. I would but no, I'm gonna have to turn up. It's like this new uh thing in theatre, they're doing it a lot where like the actor turns up and even the actor doesn't know what's going on.

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Oh fuck off. They hand you a script on. Yeah.

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Or maybe I'll have headphones with instructions, or who knows? But I will be receiving.

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You'll okay.

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Which, hey, if you're built for it. Yeah. God knows how to practice.

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Yeah, you rock up and they're like, alright, strip. Strip. Not if they want to sell tickets. Biggest thing you've ever seen.

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And I'm like, well, it is fringe festival. I guess I have to do this.

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Well, I need to do this for these 12 people. Yeah. October 10th. Yeah. At I'm assuming Trades Hall. Yeah, Rough Trades Hall. Rough Trades Hall. It's not at a basement somewhere. No. Your show last year fucking set the world on fire. I loved a brief episode.

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A brief episode where I took you through Greece and Albania and then deep into grief.

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And then I went and retraced your steps. You did. Yeah. And I was like, the whole trip, I was just like, oh my god, like this is. She was right. She was right.

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She wasn't lying. It wasn't a bit. No, it really is crazy. Athens is truly amazing. Up in the beautiful.

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Somebody like injecting heroin into their eyeballs. Yeah. On the street on the plane. And that wasn't. And I said, Adam, stop. Uh no, and then yeah, I yeah. Go off. They're really going off.

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Honey, there is poverty the likes of which you just don't see here. There is old school European poverty. I saw a man covered in what can only be described as medieval boils with an arm outstretched, waiting for Jesus still. Like it was a lot.

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Out the front of the Lindsay Lohan Club.

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Well, yeah, pretty. And it was Lindsay.

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And um that's I love it's still there. So it's not open, but it's still there. And it has some huge low hand sign. I'm like, the fact that they haven't even no one's oh heaven.

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But I mean it's very low hand to have like low hand in lights and no one's home. Like that's very Can we talk about Britney? Have you seen Britney like that? She's not lights on no one's home.

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She's been lights on no one home for years. But that one you sent me the other day that was particularly it's upsetting. Particularly upsetting.

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We need a welfare check. Can we get the cat team on?

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I've stopped because I was, you know, it was titillating at first at the start, and now I'm like, I feel bad. It feels unethical.

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We wanted to free her, and then you like put her back in.

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Put her back.

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Put her back. Oh god, put her back. Not like this, not like this. Yeah. It feels like Britney could end in like an ass-to-ass requiem for a dream moment. I don't want to be hyperbolic.

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If you had to block one, Bethany or Brittany. Which one? From what? Oxygen? Yeah, and and then just your.

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See, I think I think Britney needs more oxygen, and I think Bethany needs a little less. Yeah. We need to slow Bethany. Actually, let's slow them. Give me a tank dart and I'll just crank them both.

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Trank blow dart. I would love to see. Imagine Bethany just like stoned out of her brain.

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I would just love to take the edge off her. I would love to just just go like hey. Just a edible. Just like a cookie. Just like hit the vape. You know, something. Let's bring you down. She is up. She's way too high. She's she maybe maybe stop playing chess and do play a little checkers. Actually, just stop playing. Stop playing in my face. Stop playing between my ears. I know. But she's I'll show her no go.

Happy 2nd Birthday!

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Oh my god. So it's the second birthday. Of the pod. The cringe is real dog. Oh my god.

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A lot of white boys that start a podcast don't make it to two years. I know, so before a sniper takes them.

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We can only hope that's next to the show. Yeah, I've booked it. It's for you to this year five years. I'm just gonna put the bullets. Can you imagine my state funeral? I can. I hope it would be grand. Oh my god.

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I just think at the amount of queens that would be there. It would be like if the right did want to take out queers, that would be the event.

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They'd be like, oh, what a slut.

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Yeah. And there'd be a lot of it'd be that classic thing of like a woman turns up and and everyone's like, how did you know? I'm just like, he was my husband. And it would be you, but countless like Melbourne bears and otters and like because you're very like Noah's Ark with your taste. You have like two of every kind.

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Yeah, I'm touching every corner of the community.

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Yes, and not just touching it, fondling it, jiggling it.

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Oh my god.

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I'm an equal opportunity employer. I like Noah's Ark, that's better. Because we are in, you know, dark.

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Yeah, and you're often flooding.

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And yeah, I am. We do need to preserve ourselves. We do after Trump takes us all out for being. I feel worth welcome. Yeah.

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Have you seen people now do like lobotomies?

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Like you can actually get a lobotomy.

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Yeah.

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I do it every night. It's called The Real Housewives.

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Okay. Brilliant segue. Okay. Are we going to talk Real Housewives? Well, you did the segue, so it would be weird not to.

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Well, before we do, I do need to shamelessly plug the Patreon. Okay. So we are doing Real House Eyes of London over there. And I thought, because it was a bit of a gamble. I'm like, okay, I'm going to start a Patreon. I'm going to do Real House Eyes of London. I hope it's good. And can I tell you? You're not watching it, are you?

SPEAKER_00 10:31

No, but you're going to tell me it's brilliant.

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It's fucking these, especially so the la first three episodes, I was like, I was like, fuck, what have I done here?

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Meanwhile, I think you were already telling me in the first three episodes, like, you have to be watching.

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No, because I wanted you to watch it so I could get you on to talk about it, you fucking idiot. These last two

The Real Housewives of London

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episodes are not just saying this, like some of the best housewives ever. Okay. They've done two back-to-back to be continued. And they have felt they've felt like they've earned them. That's it. You'd have to really earn. This woman, Amanda, like, she kind of she's there with all of the poison grace of a a British lady, but then she's just like falling apart inside.

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Do they smell rich? These like do these ones feel legitimate. They do feel very rich.

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Someone says in the first episode, no cost of living crisis here. Which I'm like, oh boy, fuck, oh boy. Just driving around London in a convertible. But she um she's sitting pretty the first half of the season, like the Queen Bee. Very kind of Gene Leano style. Well, they're all a bit intimidated by her because she's fabulous.

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Yeah, because you're an insignificant ass here.

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Yeah. And then and she keeps saying things like, Oh, I don't do toxic gossip. I would never engage in a toxic luncheon where we would gossip. And I'm just like and then they bring in a bombshell enters the villa, her like ex-best friend. Who's this? Nick. Who just literally rocks up. It's ex on the fucking bed. Yeah. Unreal. She rocks up and she just basically. She sprays her at the picnic in front of everyone. This picnic goes for like two episodes. And the exchange, some of the lines in these exchanges, these there's um what does you say? Calm down, love. Have another drink. Have another drink. And then she goes, Oh, have another drink. Well, how's all that Azempic going that you've been shoving in your body for the last last four years? And she goes back, quite good, actually. I've lost eight kilos. It's like back and forth like that for like an episode.

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So like dinosaurs. Unbelievable.

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And we're all just like, yeah, so good. And so now she's being like challenged.

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So this newcomer just doesn't give a shit about it.

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Yeah, I mean, it's it's someone who was on Ladies of London. I don't know if you ever watched that, but she's come in and just disrupted the whole thing. But we are having a does the top dog feel shaken by it? Oh no, it's like she's over. It's like game over. Like they're all they're all one by one turning against turn out, and it is delicious. So yeah, I can't wait to see where it goes. And if you want to hear my recaps for that, you need to subscribe to the Patreon.

SPEAKER_00 13:14

Okay. Well, shuts fire.

SPEAKER_02 13:16

Yeah. Um, but yes. But I've been thinking about the pod and some of my highlights. Yes. And I must say the live show we did earlier in the year, which I can't believe that was this year. Was a low light. That was terrible. That was when I was like, let's stop this. No, that was so far.

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That was so fun.

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Just like, I don't know, getting some gays to the pub to talk about housewives. It's like a life achievement.

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And some beautiful women as well. But there were so much. Don't forget that. Yeah. Yeah. There were women on the mic, there were women in the audience.

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Yes, we do.

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Even though in the live show you did say Ash Flanders hates women, which I do like sometimes I'll be going to sleep and I'll hear like Ash Flanders is going to wake up in time.

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That was the Ms. Siwa. Which I called. You fucking called it.

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Called it. And my friend Paula, as always, the Oracle of Hawkesburn.

BBUK is Back!

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She had called it from the jump.

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Shout out to you.

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Yeah. She knew.

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She just looked at JoJo and was like, nah. She was like, that's like no lesbian I've ever heard of. Yeah.

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That is no lesbian.

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So she's fully with Chris Chris. And they're like gonna have a show. Like literally, like they're gonna have like a show.

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Yeah. From a showmance to a show.

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But how long do we give it? Because I don't think he's into her. He's doing it for the class. Yes!

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He is not into anything. He would call his own name out during sex. Like he is into himself. Like. Yeah. And JoJo is lost lost. Like, I don't think JoJo has a clue clue who she is, is.

SPEAKER_02 14:50

They've gone quiet, but Big Brother's back. UK Big Brother is back, I think, this week or next week. Just with the regular people. There's always the normies they cast. They're not normies. They're not like the normies. Australian television, where like you can be normy, but you have to be like hot or an influence. Yeah, no. In the UK, they're like, oh yeah, you've missing an arm and a tooth. Great, you're on.

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Yeah, you draw on your eyebrows like they're two huge caterpillars. Get in here.

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You've so fake tan that it's the only thing on T is vape juice.

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Yes.

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Fuck yeah. It's incredible. Yeah. And then absolutely.

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You hate immigration, like cra people with crazy beliefs. Yes. Yeah, you don't.

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They love putting like nut job right wingers in with like a trans person and just being like, off you go, sort that out.

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Like, I'm like a dream of being a lord, and you know, I'm a trans person that lives in a bin. Yeah. And it's like YouTube, that was a great thing. And then they always get along though. That's what's always amazing. It's like how often those people go like, you're actually alright. I thought I thought I was gonna hate you. Can I be honest? Thought I was gonna hate you. I actually love you. I actually think you're amazing.

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Courtney Act was great on that season.

SPEAKER_00 15:57

Well, I don't know about that. Let's not go nuts. I felt like she was trying to groom that poor straight guy the whole time. Yeah. Felt like he needed a shelter or a hotline. No, even her like skirt accidentally falling off when she was walking in.

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That was fucking smart. I mean, it's smart.

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Yeah, I'll accuse her of a lot of things. I'll never accuse her of being smart. Oh my god. Talented, sure. Everywhere, yes. Marketable, definitely. Pretty, absolutely. Uh all right. End of list.

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Housewives. Yes. You're not watching

Housewives Roundup

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London, and I can't convince you.

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Of anything.

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Okay. Salt Lake is back.

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It sure is, baby.

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And so we've had one episode. We've had one episode. There's another one tonight, which I cannot wait to watch. Um, thoughts on this, Blair Witch?

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I felt like that was really unnecessary, but I was almost into like again, I feel like they were just showing us this is how much we are team players on. Like, if production wants to do this, we're doing it. Like, these women will do anything to make TV, but in a way that I like.

SPEAKER_02 17:06

We're like up for it. They're like, oh yeah, you want to give us camcorders and tell us like we'll make up fake ghost stories? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 17:13

Yes. Also, like Whitney can say to Brittany, like, how'd you get your money by sucking dick? And that's not even like that's just like nothing in that episode. They don't even talk about it again.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

For this show, that is like very child's play.

SPEAKER_00 17:28

That's just like past the salt. But like on other seasons, that would be a huge accusation. Like, remember when like Brynn just like on Ober joked about Brynn, like that's because they're the snowflake purple! What you said. Oh yeah, but the Salt Lake ladies are just in it to win it. Love that Lisa Barlow didn't even do the first thing. Oh good.

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She's like, no, I'm not getting in an IP. John and I have an important to kill me. Yeah, but her ears were burning because they couldn't get Lisa Barlow's name out of her mouth, which is what we love. And Lisa loves too.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

Oh, Lisa absolutely loves it. What do you think the deal is with Natara Readers like who's the water sign and why don't you have trust with them or whatever?

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And she's like, and her getting um convinced the Gensha. That's gonna that's not gonna end well. That is going to, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:21

I mean, I really hope Bronwyn has a good season. I'm a little worried, but I'm I'm worried that Bronwyn's gonna go the way of Katie on OC. But do you watch OC?

SPEAKER_02 18:29

Yeah, yeah. Katie, I feel for yeah, Katie needs our thoughts and prayers. She's being like bullied. And I think she's telling the truth. 100%. Yeah. Me too. And but also, don't we care? No. Um, but I loved um Lisa Barley not being there. Yeah. I'm all talking about it. I loved the sound grab of Heather being like, Genshar is in prison where she belongs. Like wink to camera. I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:57

Okay, Heather. It's not worth it. For someone who couldn't even tell us that she punched you in the face, look who found her voice.

SPEAKER_02 19:02

Oh my god, punch in the face, skate was so frustrating. I'm glad we've moved away from that.

SPEAKER_00 19:07

Yeah, I'm like, yeah. I'm gonna punch a few more people in the face if we don't just tell the truth about this so we can move on.

SPEAKER_02 19:13

Yeah, Jensha is in the press a lot at the moment because you know she might be getting out soon. Is it next year or the year after or something?

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Yeah.

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And yes. Apparently, Andy Cohen's like, I don't want to see her again, which I'm like, I think that's a misdirect.

SPEAKER_00 19:29

Because John Oliver, did you see John Oliver was explaining it all on some like on was it Kimmel? No, it was on the Kimmel. One of the white men. And um, he was on there going, yeah, explaining the whole series, and then saying, like, if she's not back on the show, then Andy is not the producer I think he is.

SPEAKER_02 19:46

Um and I think that's the plan. 100% gonna be the plan. Yeah. And then I've and then Monica Garcia.

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Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 19:53

Ms. Von Tees has said she's keen to come back.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

So I feel like they are I think she'd be keen to be at the opening of a car wash.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

Like she is not booked, she's not booked nor but she was on House of Villains, like season two, as like a special guest, and that was I think Jane the Dragon Queen is gonna be on House of Villains as an actual cast member. Like it's it's not that show is what is that show? I'm wondering. I'm the audience of that show, and I don't even like it.

SPEAKER_00 20:21

I watch it and don't like it.

SPEAKER_02 20:23

It's no, it's bad.

SPEAKER_00 20:24

It's yeah, it was funny in the way that it was making fun of reality shows, but then it's still kind of doing the crime.

SPEAKER_02 20:30

I do like that they just put Tiffany Bard on it back to back seasons with no explanation. They're like, yeah, she's on every time she's on the week. Yes, yeah. But she she's invited every season. Yeah. Because of course she's the HBIC.

SPEAKER_00 20:43

Well, she called Omar where else you're gonna hear call Omarosa a cum guzzling Republican whore, and I sleep so much better knowing that you are not in the White House. That was that was just like amazing. Who would be?

SPEAKER_02 20:54

But then they get rid of Tiffany and then the show sucks.

SPEAKER_00 20:56

Yeah. We just need a show called the Tiffany Monologues, where Tiffany just does a monologue and that's it.

SPEAKER_02 21:03

I'm green like that. Yeah. Until Trump takes it off the air. Those ratings. She never rated well.

SPEAKER_00 21:11

Wait, how do we feel about Whitney's red hair?

SPEAKER_02 21:14

Okay. I didn't hate it. But I'm a Whitney, I'm a wild rose apologist.

SPEAKER_00 21:20

Well, you should have bought her jewelry because that business is gone.

SPEAKER_02 21:25

I don't see you dripping in it. Hang on, I just whip it out. Like fucking rose chat.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

They're like the makeup company's gone too, or did she have any of it?

SPEAKER_01 21:35

When she was like, I had a business that failed. I had a business that failed. I'm like, yes. Yeah. Correct. And a lot of Americans have had businesses that failed. That felt. And you sucked.

SPEAKER_00 21:49

And then Britney had nowhere to go. Brittany had nowhere to go. Britney was like, oh I'll hug you now. And when she came up. She's just listening to hug.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

I don't want you to hug.

SPEAKER_02 21:58

Brittany, oh God. Because Britney's very divisive. Some people are like living for Britney because she's chaos. Some people just find it. I I get secondhand embarrassment from watching Britney. But I love it.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

I absolutely but I almost think that's her purpose. And I almost think she's there to be like someone that everyone can agree to make fun of. Like it's a horrible thing where it's like she's just like covered in loser dust.

SPEAKER_02 22:23

She is. And that's what I love about it, especially when like Elisa Barlow or Meredith Marks are involved. Like the she's recording us. Like that was so. And no offense.

SPEAKER_00 22:34

I still really want Meredith to wake up. Like I'm just like, Oh, she's awake. Wake up Pearl. She's zanned out of the world. I know that's what I mean. I mean, we need to can we swap the meds for an upper? Oh, okay. Because she's just so vagued out all the time that I'm like, I don't know that she's gonna deliver any story ever.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

Yeah, she had no idea where she was in that RV trip. No, I mean, neither did anyone.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

Whereas Mary Cosby Mary Cosby's like vague in a different way, but she is so funny and such great. Incredible.

SPEAKER_02 23:04

Mary Cosby just like picking at that like bagel because Angie Kay forgot to bring all of the food. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

I mean, Mary can do anything. Oh, wait, I sent you that. Hold on, let me find it.

SPEAKER_02 23:15

I fully believe that Angie Kay genuinely just forgot to pack the food as well, but absolutely. First I was like, maybe that's a bit, and I'm like, no.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

Mary, yeah. Mary Cosby when they're just like, they're like trying to set up this whole ghost story. Let's go like do the ghost story. And then Mary just goes, Isn't it time to go to bed? Like Isn't it time to go to bed? We were thought of this. Yeah. And her eyes are kind of like squinting.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

They're rolling constantly, so they're always back here. It's so good.

SPEAKER_00 23:45

But she was just like, it was so clear they were setting up to do a bit, and she was like, Can't we just go to bed? Like she was like not in the mood. Again, what's so funny is they're all such teen players with production, but Mary seemed like she's still very happy to go, I'm not doing that. Remember when she sat and made McDonald's instead of going to the dinner? She sat in the van.

SPEAKER_02 24:03

And they used all of the footage of it, her ordering McDonald's. They played like the or it was, and I honestly, that was more interesting than like, I don't know, whatever fucking like side of the road bullshit Heather was doing.

SPEAKER_00 24:15

Mary is interested. Well Heather has to well Heather has to like vomit and perhaps piss herself in front of us on a van. Mary just sitting quietly eating McDonald's.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

Heather's whole new head is amazing, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

Look, I've heard reports that it's it's interesting up close.

SPEAKER_02 24:30

Yeah. Oh, because she was here not long ago. Oh. Yes. But Beauty Lab and Laser is not a business that felt Beauty Lab is in the eye of the beholder.

SPEAKER_00 24:40

It's doing well. So she is Beauty Lab.

SPEAKER_02 24:42

She's doing well. But yeah, the the lab. The red hair, you think it's going. You've heard reports that the red hair doesn't stay.

SPEAKER_00 24:49

No, no, no. I in one of the confessionals she had blonde hair again. And I was like, I wonder if it's It's Wiggs. I also laughed. It's oh it's a it's a Ferrier rinse. Um I loved that in one of the episodes they showed Lisa not being in the back, like not being in her confessional thing. And um, I was like, oh my god, I really hadn't clocked again how all those confessional backgrounds are AI all the time. Yeah, they're just a green screen.

SPEAKER_02 25:14

They're not in their house. Yeah, they it's this illusion that they're like in their home. Yes. I think they take some like I think they're in the back of the van.

SPEAKER_00 25:21

Like Tapitha takes over and they've got a green screen down. Yeah. Give me your keys, I'm taking over. Totaline. I'm taking over beauty labs.

SPEAKER_02 25:29

Beauty labs.

SPEAKER_00 25:30

The secret to turning a failing beauty company into a successful one is one week with me. I'm gonna change everything.

SPEAKER_02 25:36

I do love Whitney's uh fail business. So last season she was being accused of Allie Bon Blah being the um, you know, the source for her shitty jewelry. And then I love just this season being like, yes.

SPEAKER_00 25:51

Yes, I wasn't, it didn't work. Yeah, I tried to resell I tried to stamp my name on something, and you know what? Didn't work. Turns out it was a terrible thing. If I had watched any other Housewife franchise, I might have realized that a little earlier.

SPEAKER_02 26:05

This fucking show. Like only this show could they do that, and and you're just like, fuck yeah. Yeah, like do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 26:12

I know, but it's like next, it's yeah, add it to like renew with Ramona or whatever her skin line was, the Ramona uh Rose like the Oh Sheba drinking rain.

SPEAKER_02 26:22

They're all the same. G and A.

SPEAKER_00 26:24

Pinogrigio, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:25

They're all there's so many, you could the toaster oven, yeah. Surely there's some crazed fan out there that is like collecting all the time.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

That's what BravoCon is. It's just like all of them with little stalls.

SPEAKER_02 26:37

Yeah, BravoCon as enticing as it is, I think, would be. That's why too close to it.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

You went to BravoCon, you're just there to bang Andy. Been there, done that.

SPEAKER_02 26:48

Where's the light? No, I wish. Oh. Where's the light? Oh, please.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

He would. You would. You wouldn't fuck Andy Conn. No, I feel like Andy Conn's fucked me enough with his programming. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

He's certainly is.

SPEAKER_00 27:00

Yeah, I'm weirdly more on the side of like Kathy Griffin.

SPEAKER_02 27:03

Oh my god. She's also got a new head, Hussein.

SPEAKER_00 27:07

Uh yeah, she's on a facelift tour.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

But she's always on an she's always got a new head. But the one that she's got currently, Fabian. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:13

You can tell she was a friend of Joan Rivers now.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

Yeah, well, she's slowly just becoming Joan. Yeah. Which is great.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

But her and Melissa, I don't think, are close.

SPEAKER_02 27:21

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 27:22

Yeah. It didn't go down well. Well, because they brought Kathy in to take over for Joan on Fashion Police, and then it failed.

SPEAKER_02 27:30

Ah, that's right. It failed. It actually know what?

SPEAKER_01 27:33

It was a show that failed.

SPEAKER_00 27:34

And a lot of shows failed.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

Yeah. And you're not supporting women.

SPEAKER_00 27:37

I just feel like Katio and she's like, you know what? I'm getting older and my body's changing and I'm not going to apologize for it.

SPEAKER_02 27:45

Alright, should we talk about OC? Yes. So fucking hell. Like, just where to start?

SPEAKER_00 27:51

I just want to know what's going on with Shannon. Just in general. Shannon? She's a weird wolf. Her energy is kooky dookie.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

She's fucked up, man. Yeah. Like, I was watching because Miami and uh OC come out like at the same time at the moment. And a friend over on the weekend, and we watch both. And like Miami is like so fun. And like and like the whole thing, you're just like laughing, living. And then we watch OC right afterwards and I and we were both just looked at each other and like, this is fucking dark.

SPEAKER_00 28:22

Yeah. And it's like moving from like a like a beautiful sunny island to uh the suburbs.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

The fucking suburbs. Yeah, the suburbs. And they are these like Republican white women with a lot of I don't know, questionable choices all over. Shannon Bador is like very unwell.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

Yeah, in like a way that makes me just question a lot of things. Like I don't think it's just drinking. I don't think it's just playing up for the camera. I don't think it's it's just like a like a in the same way I might be a bit worried for Britney. I'm a little worried for Shannon. Yeah. And she doesn't even have the cardio abilities of Britney.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

No. Oh my god, I used to work with a woman that just is exactly Shannon. Like she kind of tries to be a fun lady of the moment, and then as soon as you say anything that she slightly doesn't agree with, she's like, well, and like freaks out. Yes. And then like and then becomes a victim and like panics. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 29:27

I also feel like Shannon takes everything to a sad place. You like it's sad. You'll say, like, what a lovely day. And Shannon would be the person that's like, Yeah, they say it's gonna rain later. Yeah, well, you know, yesterday was.

SPEAKER_02 29:41

Yeah. Yeah, and it's been hard for me, and I need time. You got fucked up and drove into a house.

SPEAKER_00 29:50

Like, and even when she's like, you know, and I finally settled the lawsuit, and it's like, yeah, because you paid it, because you owed it. Yeah. Like, I don't know. It's hard to be to be the victim when you're like, no, you did owe that money, and you've got to pay it. Yeah. But I mean, I think the guys are always scum too.

SPEAKER_02 30:05

But um I just think as well, like this show, like a lot of franchises are getting a little pause. I think this is the next one that needs it because it's you're doing similar to New Jersey in that it's very ugly. It's ugly, it's getting messy, it's getting bully.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:18

In not in a not in a fabulous bully way. Yeah. In a mental health way. And like, especially with Katie, I'm just like, oh my god. But what's like Gina's storyline? What's Emily's story? Oh my god, get the fucking doing social. She's a real estate agent.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

Allegedly. So was Ramona.

SPEAKER_02 30:40

Yeah. I mean, I do love, I go to O say for Heather DeBro. I love Heather DeBro. She is like watching her try and just like produce the show is my kink. It's so good.

SPEAKER_00 30:52

Love it also because she just feels like so type A, trying to control everything. Yeah. And trying to be cool and always trying to work out how things are gonna play and getting it wrong a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

Sleep over the house, like, oh my god, with all their like personal chefs and they have they have too much money, it's disgusting, no taste.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

What I really liked was it was a real rich person. When the other two were like, um, can I have my eggs like this? And the guy was like, I would never have it. Like the chef was saying to them, I would never cook it like that, I'll never do it like that. And then Heather just went, I'm gonna have my omelette and I like it well done. And she was not interested in his opinion. Because guess what, bitch? You're the cook. You cook what the client wants. It's that, you know, wealth whispers thing. Like Heather just said it in a way. I was once at a really wealthy person's house, and the husband came in. He didn't know that I wasn't staff, I was actually there to see this person. Sharp and fuck up. The husband came in and he just looked at me and he said, Why is this door open? This door should be closed. And then this the woman had to go, you remember Ash?

SPEAKER_02 31:56

Our good friend.

SPEAKER_00 31:57

And he was like, Oh, Ash, have you got a haircut? You've lost weight. He tried everything.

SPEAKER_02 32:02

Now close the fucking door.

SPEAKER_00 32:03

No, no, he was like, but when he thought I was staffed, the way he spoke to me. Wow. I felt my blood boil. Yeah, I was like, you don't talk to me like that, but that's their world.

SPEAKER_02 32:14

Oh, and this is them doing her and Terry like the on camera, putting on that. Like the cameras go away and imagine. They're like, all right, back in your cells.

SPEAKER_00 32:21

Do you reckon they sleep in separate beds? I reckon they're probably. Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_02 32:26

I think they sleep in different houses. Like they have different time zones. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:30

You know, she's in the 80s and he's in the 60s.

SPEAKER_02 32:32

The way she always drops, like, because they've bought this Beverly Hills house that's like next door to Drake. And like her trying to like act like she knows or cares who Drake is, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 32:41

I also love that all her kids are like every L G B N T.

SPEAKER_02 32:44

Oh, I love that. And how she's like living for it. She milks it all the time. Oh, wow. I'm just so lucky I've got all of these children.

SPEAKER_00 32:52

You know, because they're really, they're really teaching me. They're really teaching, like everything she says feels so overly worked out. Like she's practiced it in the mirror all night.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

The clip they played of her doing like a musical production.

SPEAKER_00 33:06

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:07

Oh my god. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:08

I want to go front row. And that's when I was like, actually, she gives me music theater performer energy. Like she's always on. Yes. Too much makeup and on.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's no, it's a challenging watch.

SPEAKER_00 33:21

It's very funny that the women were like, Terry's so funny. I'm like, I would find him a bit tiresome. Like he seems nice enough, sure.

SPEAKER_02 33:29

We all watched Botched, but like Yeah. Nah. And I just think if you're putting in a lie detector test element to a season, it's done.

unknown 33:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:39

It's a cheap gimmick. I don't like it. I the whole thing I was just like.

SPEAKER_00 33:44

Tamra's a kook.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

Like Tamara has Tamara is hard stuff, man.

SPEAKER_00 33:49

Tamra feels like in a bad, like in the way that I'm happy that the Salt Lake ladies will do anything for the show, it feels like Tamara's the dark side of that. Of like she will burn every relationship she has for fame.

SPEAKER_02 34:00

And then Joe and Teddy on their pod just like causing even more cast. Yeah, no, I I can't.

SPEAKER_00 34:06

I I'm Teddy looks great with that short hair, by the way. Oh my god. She actually does. I think she really looks really beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

Yeah. I just can't like engage with Tamara because I'm I'm actually genuinely scared of her.

SPEAKER_00 34:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:21

That's your opinion. Yeah! Like it's oh yeah. Yeah, it's I think there's no bottom line.

SPEAKER_02 34:26

It's not what I come to these housewives.

SPEAKER_00 34:29

Also, when you hear about people's kids not speaking to them and like it's just like ooh, this is the this is the dark side of housewives.

SPEAKER_02 34:36

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 34:37

Yeah, it's why Bethany called it a toxic environment. It's a zero-sum game. Someone's gotta win, someone's gotta lose.

SPEAKER_02 34:44

Oh my god. Um speaking of the dark side, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:48

Now that we live in Trump's America, I have Well, we live in Australia, don't you just watch a lot of American TV. Are we not?

SPEAKER_02 34:58

I

Intervision 2025

SPEAKER_02 34:59

need to um tell you about a cultural experience I had earlier this week, which was a museum? No, the Intervision song contest. Intervision intersex Eurovision. This is Vladimir Putin's answer to Eurovision. It was like a Soviet-era ripoff of Eurovision that they did back in the 60s. They've like tried to bring it back a few times, so it never really worked. And then this year Putin was like, this is the fucking year. We're back. We're bringing it back. There was all this weird, the whole thing is weird, man. Like there's fucking, there was like circulating of like, is it coming back? When? Who are the participating, like countries and artists and whatever? And then just all of a sudden it was like bang, it's like on YouTube.

SPEAKER_00 35:47

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 35:47

Uh it was like a delayed telecast in most countries, of course. And I watched every frame of it because I was like, I live for this shit. I'm like, I'm ready for the apocalypse, baby. Like sign me up. Dress for it. Oh my god, if you want to see like the tacky Russian version of Eurovision, yeah, please. Like I thought Eurovision was the tacky Russian version. You thought it couldn't get worse, but this shit is this is like the propaganda version of Eurovision. Unbelievable. They obviously got excited with the budget and they got like, you know, those 3D graphics of you know like EDM DJs when they have like a sexy girl that's like this, and they look a little bit robotic. Yep. They had little Russia, yeah. They had that. Every country had like an avatar of a sexy lady just moving in like stereotypical like cultural costume. So it was like China, and it was like sexy lady with like a dragon, okay, and then like you know, Venezuela, and it was like sexy lady with like a hair.

SPEAKER_00 36:56

So all these countries agreed to compete in this Russian Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:58

Well, the countries that competed were yeah, it was like they were all ready to be like Qatar, UA, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. South Africa, um so United States involved. However, there was controversy. What? So this is so wild. And no one's talking about this, and I'm like, this is endlessly fascinating to me. United States was said they'd do it. They were gonna send, do you know B Howard? He may or may not be related to Michael Jackson. Okay, he Yes, he looks exactly like B. Yeah. He looks exactly like Michael Jackson. Creepy guy dude.

SPEAKER_00 37:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:37

He pulled out for reasons unknown. So then USA were like, oh, we're gonna send this other girl called Vassie, who's a Greek Australian singer. Stop it. Okay, girl from Melbourne, probably. Probably. Yeah. This is where it gets like, I'm like, oh my god. Team Vassie already. Vassie's song was like a little bop. In English or Greek? Yeah, yeah, no, it was like an English song. It was like very like, you know, 2010s pop girl, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 38:06

Holy Verlands B-side. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 38:08

And I was like, can't wait for this. It gets to her bit, and they go, uh Yeah, look, the United States of America aren't performing tonight. Uh we've had and this is also the whole show is in Russian and Mandarin. So I have to watch it with subs. And they're like, Isn't it just so sad when politics gets involved in a beautiful show about creativity? Yeah, Russia, it is a horrible Australian government have intervened. Yes, they said this on the show. They're like, the Australian government has called on this artist to not perform and blah blah blah. And so you can blame them for why why you don't get an American act tonight, and everyone's like, oh, and then they like go on with the show. Also, the Russian entrant after his song was like, he performs and it's amazing, of course. Like they had like way more effects and stuff for that. But can I just quickly and then at the end he goes, please don't vote for me? It would be unfair. So I'm I'm saying I'm no longer eligible to win because I've already won.

SPEAKER_00 39:12

Isn't Eurovision the regular one really gay? Yes. And Russia's famously knocked down with the gays. Yes. So like what what's that act like?

SPEAKER_02 39:21

So, okay. Funny you should ask. So the winning country was Vietnam. Incredibly gay performance. Okay. Like gay, gay, gay. You can't fight for Vietnam. Very femme boy stunned doing a little Vietnamese rap rap. To be gay, and I believe confirmed gay. Okay. Uh, and then afterwards, when asked about it, Russia were like, well, look, yes, he won and everything, but as long as he's not spreading the gay agenda, the only propaganda we'll spread is our own. Thank you very much. Thank you. No gay propaganda here. So they actually said like we won't have it. But yes, it's like a company.

SPEAKER_00 40:01

And when I was in Vietnam, there were a lot of Russians there.

SPEAKER_02 40:03

Yeah, they do, yeah. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:04

There's a good, there's a you know, there's a commie connection. Yeah. Honey, the commies, honey. All the commies gotta get.

SPEAKER_02 40:11

Honestly, if you want to peek into a different world, like parallel universe, like watch some clips. I was like, I was radicalized. Like, it's fucked. Not not a single song was good. Like they were all just like, uh And were they all propagandary? Like were they all about Oh yeah, the South African song was pretty propagandary. It was just very like, oh, we're all together and blah blah blah. Oh yeah, South Africa, famously all about together. It was very that lot of um, you know, you can be black or white or whatever. A lot of the Yeah, now you can't. Yeah, a lot of the songs were like that. Yeah. A lot of peace, unity, blah, but like, okay, come on. Practice what you preach, bitch. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:56

My friends who go to South Africa are like, it's still really scary and rough over there. Yeah. Not that it's perfect over here, hey.

SPEAKER_02 41:02

Of course not, but honestly, like that radicalized me. Maybe music will bring us all together. Exactly. That's the point of these. And then I was just recovering from Intervision, and then Survivor

Survivor Influencer Island

SPEAKER_02 41:14

Influencer Island came to my attention. You know what?

SPEAKER_00 41:17

I'd rather be in Mother Russia.

SPEAKER_02 41:20

I literally was like, the world is over. Jeff Jeff folks is worse than Putin.

SPEAKER_00 41:25

What does it mean? So it's a shorter season.

SPEAKER_02 41:27

It's not a season, it's just like bit it's on it's just like a web thing. Oh, is it? Yeah, it's not even a real, it's like a stunt. It's promo for season 49. Oh, okay. You'll be watching uh how many more is Jeff gonna host?

SPEAKER_00 41:41

I think it's as long as I can prop him up. Yeah. They might even. I know I love Jeff. I know you're so over here, but I love Jeff.

SPEAKER_02 41:47

Jeff Probst is a terror. I think he should I think Trump should class him as a terrorist.

SPEAKER_00 41:53

See, well, you're banging Andy Connor, I'll bang Jeff Probes.

SPEAKER_02 41:55

Oh. Very happily. Yeah. Look, no kink shaming here.

SPEAKER_00 42:00

No.

SPEAKER_02 42:01

What would you want him to say? What would you want him to whisper?

SPEAKER_00 42:04

Previously on my dick. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:09

Got nothing for you.

SPEAKER_00 42:11

Drop your buffs. He'd have to say drop your buffs first. Okay. And then say previously on the first. And then that's when you're going to be able to do that. And then when I'm I'm like, are you gonna come? He'll say, I got nothing for you.

SPEAKER_02 42:21

So you want a bit of edge play. Edging.

SPEAKER_00 42:24

I want to edge with probes. We do. I want an anal probed.

SPEAKER_02 42:27

We do Jeff Propes roleplay with Tani Freyder here. I'm hoping it's not sexual. No, with um when we don't have any treats for her. When he's like, Got nothing for you, you can head back to camp. And she goes, Well.

SPEAKER_00 42:38

Me and my ex used to always do um whenever he'd go, um, first things first, I'm gonna go, I'm the realist.

SPEAKER_02 42:44

First things first, I'm gonna take back that idol. First things first, I'm the realist. First things first.

SPEAKER_00 42:54

Bring Iggy Azalea to host it. Well, oh, imagine they're just like, wouldn't it be fucking cool if Anthony or is it John Lapalia? Jonathan Lapalia. Jonathan Lapalia was the host of America.

SPEAKER_02 43:06

Well, honestly. Well, they've just been seen together. Really?

SPEAKER_00 43:10

Jeff and him.

SPEAKER_02 43:11

They had a little a little host.

SPEAKER_00 43:14

I think he'd be a great host of the American One Show.

SPEAKER_02 43:16

I feel like they could be doing that. Yeah. Grooming. And look, one man's trash.

SPEAKER_00 43:21

Do you think it would then all be have been part of a scheme to get him over there?

SPEAKER_02 43:24

I think everything is all part of a huge intergovernmental scheme by Russia.

SPEAKER_00 43:29

Led by Putin Bolton.

SPEAKER_02 43:31

To take Jonathan LePalley away from me personally.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

Yeah, you love him. I love him too. He was a great.

SPEAKER_02 43:36

Oh, JLP is amazing. Can you yeah, I can't fathom.

SPEAKER_00 43:39

Are you gonna be able to watch the has he already hosted yet? Isn't that already?

SPEAKER_02 43:42

Yeah, new guys hosted. He hasn't star they filmed it, but it hasn't dropped. Of course I'm gonna watch it.

SPEAKER_00 43:47

And he's just like a hot model to begin with, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:50

And also you've never really fucked with Australian Survivor.

SPEAKER_00 43:53

Shawnee, love. King George, love. So I know like the hits. You know that but I don't I don't Oh my god. Golden God though. That like hot, dumb guy in the speedos.

SPEAKER_02 44:03

Which one?

SPEAKER_00 44:04

I know. Well that's all of them. Simon meant. And there was that great episode that started with one of them going, I've hidden it in my ass. Can I see it? He's like, look, let me feel.

SPEAKER_02 44:12

It's big. Yeah, you know where it is. Yeah. They just like they really know that clip. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:18

Everything. Russia would not have been okay with next season. Simon. Yeah. That took it again. I hope. The only thing I worry about with Australian Survivor is like they're already rinse-repeating people so often.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

No, look, I have no issue with that.

SPEAKER_00 44:32

Which, you know, casting person has Asperger's and doesn't like change? Because we can have new people.

SPEAKER_02 44:37

Ten just they they like being comfortable, they like doing, they like working with people they know, and they they love just pitching to the fucking dumbass Australian audience. Who just like what they already know. To go, yep, look who's back, and then we all go, ah, Sean Tent.

SPEAKER_00 44:51

I will watch Shawnee in anything. I paid for a cameo from Shawnee.

SPEAKER_02 44:54

Did you really?

SPEAKER_00 44:54

Yeah, she was amazing.

SPEAKER_02 44:55

What did she do?

SPEAKER_00 44:56

Uh it was like, yeah, for my ex who was battling at cancer, and she was like, um, and I'd mentioned in my thing, you know, like how inspiring she goes, you know, when I was in that water and I didn't know if I was gonna go, you just gotta keep going. And it was sound corny as well.

SPEAKER_02 45:11

She went, look, I've never had cancer, but I did go in the water once. And it was a little tricky. And you went, oh Shawnee.

SPEAKER_00 45:17

I was like, Shawnee, you're amazing. We paid for one for um, I paid for one from Sonia Morgan too, and hers was amazing.

SPEAKER_02 45:22

Couldn't afford Kylie, but you got Shawnee.

SPEAKER_00 45:24

Oh, I love Shawnee. Shawnee's my fave. I'm team Shawnee all the way.

SPEAKER_02 45:28

Truly. And so you didn't watch Australia vs. the world though? No. You should, it's only 10 episodes, it's amazing. But yeah, warning, she's not in it very much. You didn't watch it for Parvity?

SPEAKER_00 45:39

See, I don't I'm not upset. See, that's before my time.

SPEAKER_02 45:41

Like, I know Parvity, but like you're watching 49? I'm confused.

SPEAKER_00 45:46

Yeah, I know, I know. Well, I'd never watched Elizabeth Hasselbeck's season. I never watched when they were like here in Australia. There are so many I didn't watch Boston Robb's original, like I haven't watched the first season.

SPEAKER_02 45:55

You need to do at some point a rewatch.

SPEAKER_00 45:59

Yeah, I could do it. I could do it.

SPEAKER_02 46:01

I mean, I love the season two, man, like Australian outback season, incredible. That's Elizabeth. That's Elizabeth and Colby and Jerry. It's very like that is.

SPEAKER_00 46:11

Also, I love it when people did things that you just kind of don't do anymore. Like when people would um that guy who lied about his grandma dying or grandpa dying. The guy, the people who like burn people's shit, who like ruin food. I'm really into like sore losers and like people that are happy to just be like crazy villains.

SPEAKER_02 46:29

And because now they just cast Asperger's fans that are like, oh my god, my dream was to be on Survivor and I'm here. And it's like, okay. Yeah. Well done. I mean now be entertaining.

SPEAKER_00 46:39

And can't do it. Whoops. Often those people fail as well. Like they fail. Who was that recent contestant? He'd like, he'd fully, like, he'd fully like made all of the challenges in his house and he'd like practiced all of them and like done puzzles all the time.

SPEAKER_02 46:56

When they roll the clips of people building the puzzles at home, I'm like, fuck me. It's this is becoming like embarrassing.

SPEAKER_00 47:03

I don't know, it's becoming closer to like world's best magicians, and you're just watching people practice the trick at home. It's like, are you for real? This used to be like about people's skills they didn't know they had. Like, yeah, I was a school teacher. Who knew I could move that boulder?

SPEAKER_02 47:17

But it's like, yeah, no, you've been and the sob stories and stuff, because like last season, wasn't there? There was that one girl, she had like ADHD or something. That was for trauma. And yeah, don't you remember? And then the firefighter guy like hugged her or whatever, and then that was sort of like a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 47:32

Oh no, she had that was she didn't have ADHD. She had like, I think she had pretty something, but yes, whatever. But she would get really overwhelmed and hysterically cry.

SPEAKER_02 47:39

Yeah. And then that was the whole season was just like, oh wow, we like left in this moment where like people supported her, and I was like, okay. It's also like and then cut to like Australian Survivor, and it's like Shawnee being like inflation's a bitch.

SPEAKER_00 47:58

I just like Shawnee so much because she looks so she's happy to look bimbo-ish and silly, and she's a total monster. That's what I love. And she has no trouble like cutting people down.

SPEAKER_02 48:09

She yeah, unfortunately, we didn't get that second part on Os V World. I think well, she just had a kid, so I think she was just there for the paycheck, but which go off Queen. But also, yeah, she just kind of every now and then she'd be like to Parv and sort of like girlies, yeah, girlies alliance, and they were just kind of like who who is this? Honey, if you're gonna be in the meet and greet, you're gonna need a respect. Like it was very that, yeah, very that. Yeah, she got eclipsed by the star power of Parv, I think. Oh, damn, and Parv's a Liz, right? Well, I think she's an equal opportunity employer.

SPEAKER_00 48:47

Okay, good honor.

SPEAKER_02 48:49

Yeah, I think she gets involved. Yeah, I there was some content that came out recently where there was she was talking about some girl, and I was like, Oh, she was in a relationship uh with someone that was not male recently, but then I believe that's over now. I don't know what's going on. Yeah. I think she's yeah, she's weirdly private.

SPEAKER_00 49:10

Yeah, except also attention seeking.

SPEAKER_02 49:12

Yeah. So it's like, well, she's very private. She's a better politician. Like, she's very the way she speaks, especially the way she speaks at like the final tribal. You're just you're there and you're just like, give her the money. But I think with that comes, someone that is like, yeah, they don't want all of their shit out and about. I reckon she'd be fucking fun to go out with. I bet she's got the fucking bag on her, ready to go, don't you think?

SPEAKER_00 49:37

Amazing how quickly it always comes down to the bag with you. I'm usually in the bag in a different way. I've just had one too many roses. Like, I'm old school in the bag. You're actually in the bag.

SPEAKER_02 49:48

Yeah, well, if it's there, be ashamed to waste.

SPEAKER_00 49:51

With our noses, I'm surprised anyone lets you near it.

SPEAKER_02 49:54

Exactly. So that's my update from Dystopian Future. Oh,

Housewives Casting Goss

SPEAKER_02 50:00

also, Beverly Hills is back. Is it? Wait, no, no, no, it's about back, but they've announced the cast.

SPEAKER_00 50:07

I don't know anything about it. I know, I do actually, yes, I do.

SPEAKER_02 50:10

So we need to talk about this. Dorite is back.

SPEAKER_00 50:14

Great.

SPEAKER_02 50:15

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:16

I'm into it. I wonder if we're gonna have like a caramel or we're back to blonde, or we're doing the lowlights, are we brunette? It depends on the are we British, are we South African? Are we American? Are we single? Are we divorced? Are we married?

SPEAKER_02 50:29

I think still I think her and PK are do you think I could also buy that the whole thing was just a setup? Like Kyle and Mauricio.

SPEAKER_00 50:37

Do you reckon?

SPEAKER_02 50:38

Yeah. I think they broke up a long time ago. Kyle.

SPEAKER_00 50:44

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 50:45

Yeah. And then I reckon Dorit was like, I want to do that too.

SPEAKER_00 50:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:51

Coil.

SPEAKER_00 50:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:52

Um Erica is back because of course Bravo fucking uh inside her pussy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:00

I don't mind Erica, although apparently a terrible person in real life, but uh, you know, not great to gay designers and stuff, hasn't paid bills and tried to sue them and things. I think Gajan's a monster, but go off.

SPEAKER_02 51:13

Apparently she's got charming on camera, though. Oh, she's great on the show. I think the last few seasons, her her complaining about living in a tiny house.

SPEAKER_00 51:23

That's my favourite house on the series.

SPEAKER_02 51:25

Me too.

SPEAKER_00 51:25

I think it's the cutest house.

SPEAKER_02 51:27

But her being like, oh, I've lost it all.

SPEAKER_00 51:30

That was more sad, but Martin Lawrence Bullard came in to make design delicious in here.

SPEAKER_02 51:36

When that was great. And the wall the wall.

SPEAKER_00 51:38

But did you ever watch Million Dollar Decorators? Because he was one of them. And he was like, Design is delicious. And he does Sharon Osborne's place, and there's you know a union jack pillow and shit. Like it's just like a bitcage.

SPEAKER_02 51:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:51

A real tin. Very birdcage. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot going on. Um, so Erica Dread. Sutton is back. Name 'em. Name 'em. She's unfortunately unmedicated. No, unfortunately, in the hearts and minds of the fans. I don't know how she did it, but well done.

SPEAKER_00 52:10

What are her fans called or something? That's do they have a name? Yes, I can't remember what they're called. Sutton. Name 'em's glutton for satin.

SPEAKER_02 52:18

Glutton's for Sutton. Uh Bose is back.

SPEAKER_00 52:21

Great. Love. Fucking love. Lost her house. She's rebuilding. She's got a like, there's a huge story there.

SPEAKER_02 52:28

She also skyrocketed to like S tier status for me from immediately, but particularly when she went on Watch What Happens Live, and she was so good. Yeah. Uh, just cutting Andy down. And the reunion, she was so good. Like, I thought she was even better. Like, she was great on the show, but then even better on like a panel.

SPEAKER_00 52:48

She is just, it's just I really enjoy having smart people on the show. Yes. And Bose is clearly really intelligent. And she won't be outplayed. You know, and I'm sure the show will get her eventually, because it always does. Yeah, yeah. But like, and you have to eventually give up some things. But like, Bose is keeping herself real tidy. I really like it.

SPEAKER_02 53:09

She's great. Welcome back to Bose. Then we have Newbie's Rachel Zoe.

SPEAKER_00 53:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 53:15

Interesting choice, but I'm kind of here for it. She's married with some kids. Yeah, I don't know what she's up to. They say, I've never really been that interested in her, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 53:25

All I know about her is that she gave Nicole Richie either a tapeworm or an eating disorder. Or both. Or both. Yeah. Because it's just like as soon as everyone was doing that LA boho chic thing, yes. They lost a lot of weight. Yep, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:40

Boho shake, or as I call it, heroin chic. Yeah. Yeah. I think that she will come with a lot of great, like, naughty era stories.

SPEAKER_00 53:49

Do you think she'll tell them though? I hope so. Because I could imagine she'd also like hold off and try and get a book or something. Maybe she already has several books. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 53:56

Oh, they're all fucking doing books.

SPEAKER_00 53:58

Uh and then do you think her and Nicole still talk?

SPEAKER_02 54:02

I don't know. I love Nicole Ritchie. I like Nicole Ritchie. Get it back on everything.

SPEAKER_00 54:09

She'd be in one of my top like five of like. She'd be at my dinner party. You know, you can do like a dinner party with yeah, she's she'd be funny as fuck. She's great. Cool and in on it.

SPEAKER_02 54:18

I'd rather hang out with her than Paris. Like, I also stand Paris, but I think you'd have more fun with Nicole. Yes. Because Paris is too not real anymore.

SPEAKER_00 54:28

Nicole's also just fucked up. Her sense of humor's fucked up.

SPEAKER_02 54:31

But real fucked up. Not like delusional fucked up.

SPEAKER_00 54:34

No, genuine. Like I was on heroin for a while. I got I've seen some dark shit. I'm back. I'm like a bit granola now, and I'm like a hippie, but I also have like a fashion line, and I'm also an actress and a hustler. And yeah, she gets it. She just gets it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:48

Boho Girly.

SPEAKER_00 54:49

And she's to me the sunny side of the Kelly Clarkson moon. Like, I feel like not Kelly Clarkson, Kelly Osborne. Kelly Osborne. Don't you bring Kelly Clark? No, no, no. Kelly Clarkson is a whole other galaxy of things. But um, no, you know how like Kelly Osborne, equally musician, famous father, famous as a kid, really big in the early aughts. Um, but then like I think Kelly also really gets it all and is really in on it, but just puts her foot in her mouth a lot, obviously, and like I think doesn't get it in the way Nicole actually gets it. Or like Nicole does a cleaner execution. Because I think Kelly probably has a great sense of humor and is like dark and funny, but like I'd rather hang out with Nicole.

SPEAKER_02 55:33

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 55:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:34

Yeah, she'd also have the bag. Uh and then the other one is Amanda Francis. No idea who that is. Neither. And according to her Wikipedia page, she is a world-renowned thought leader on financial empowerment for women.

SPEAKER_00 55:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 55:50

And she's a best-selling author through her wildly popular digital courses and best-selling book, Rich as Fuck.

SPEAKER_00 55:58

I'm getting MLM.

SPEAKER_02 56:00

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:00

Come to my lecture, buy my book.

SPEAKER_02 56:02

Yeah, Whitney Rose is listening. Well, maybe she's gonna help someone who's had a failed business. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 56:08

So yeah, I Do you reckon she's gonna tell Carl to take everything?

SPEAKER_02 56:12

Oh that's why they put her on. To to like probe the other women about their finances. Need a little help with some.

SPEAKER_00 56:20

Well, she can help Erica, but I see I'm glad Erica got it all back together, but I loved Erica in the season.

SPEAKER_02 56:26

She was really messy and like telling everyone to fuck off and like Oh, that was great when she was like just wobbling, carrying one eye, just like vibrating the whole season and being like, Don't you fucking talk about those victims. Yeah, or what? What?

SPEAKER_00 56:40

Nothing, Erica.

SPEAKER_02 56:42

Yeah, and she never at any point acknowledged that people died. She's like, these earrings or whatever. Oh god, that was incredible.

SPEAKER_00 56:52

But then now it's now it's a different thing. I don't quite know what her storyline's meant.

SPEAKER_02 56:56

No, like after that, now her storyline is just I've lost it all and I'm in a tiny house that's actually gorgeous. Yeah, not at all tiny.

SPEAKER_00 57:04

No. Yeah, did you feel weird when we were like I don't know, there was something about like when she was still married to what was his name? To her husband, um Tom Gerardti. It's Tom, it's about Tom. It's about Tom. Please don't tell me it's about Tom. Question mark. Um How could you do this to me? Question mark. Um that she I don't know, there was something sad about the fact that like so much of her life had been a lie. Not that she didn't know about it. I think that like she just presented such an obvious lie to us for so long, and we're all just like, oh, okay, like I'm sure they don't have sex, but they're in love, and how sweet. And then I'm like, I don't think any of that was real, like at all.

SPEAKER_02 57:43

It was that but the defensiveness for me was just like, what are you doing? Which media advisor told you to do this? Like all you do in a situation like that is you be like, I didn't know anything, yeah, I'm leaving his ass, he's a gross crook, but obviously I'm like, you know, it's it's hard because we're in love, whatever. And then you just distance yourself, and then you also like furiously apologize and have empathy, have some empathy and be like, and maybe not use like blood money to buy diamonds. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 58:10

She was like worried about, but blood diamonds shine the best. But um, I thought she was worried about like admitting any cop like that by saying she felt bad was admitting culpability. That but that's clearly not the case.

SPEAKER_02 58:22

True, and then you're right, I think she was probably pressured into being like that by like his lawyers or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 58:26

But then she that's her excuse for everything. It's like I was getting advice and Iran appeal.

SPEAKER_02 58:32

We I actually can't talk about that. That's Beverly Hills out there, and they can never talk about anything.

SPEAKER_00 58:36

And they're all actresses, which I don't like.

SPEAKER_02 58:38

Which is why Salt Lake City is top fucking shelf.

SPEAKER_00 58:42

So they might be acting, but they're bad actors, and it's funny anyway.

SPEAKER_02 58:45

And they're down to clown. Yes, yeah. Oh my god, we have to touch on Belahide.

SPEAKER_00 58:51

Okay, well, I I don't know too much about Miss Bellahide. But you're not saying that. But she's sick, yeah. She's in bed. She has lame de girls. They all have lame disease.

SPEAKER_02 58:59

The whole family's got lame d'igeas.

SPEAKER_00 59:00

You gotta go to that uh glass fridge and get something out of it. Fuck. Some what are the less almonds? Just have six almonds and lie down.

SPEAKER_02 59:08

Those photos though, like you know, if you were in your deathbed and your family was there to console you, but then you're like also taking sick. Like, is she meant to be? Well, they're posting snaps for the gram. So it's like, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_00 59:25

And she's like, I can't be there. I don't even know where fucking it's gonna be.

SPEAKER_02 59:28

All I know is that it looks bad.

SPEAKER_00 59:31

Yeah. And Bella is like because there's the two. One of them's like crazy thin European model, and one of them's like American athletic, muscly model.

SPEAKER_02 59:43

Which is oh yeah, yeah. Well, so Bella is the Bella was the bad girl. She was the one that had the DUI. Bella and her D UI, and then she dated the weak one for a little bit. She was like naughty, whereas like Ziziji's very like blonde and oh so Zizhi was the American one. I guess so, yeah. Ziziji's supermodel of the bigger.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:02

Bella was like rail thin. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:05

Yes, and looked kind of more alien, which would be my diagnosis for her. Currently. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:12

But ooh. Anyway. I just Yolanda to me is yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:18

Mama Jar gone dark. Zero Dark 30. Yeah. Scary. Scary Mama Jack.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:24

Scary.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:25

Yeah, she's not uh, yeah. But you know, I worry for a lot of all of their kids. Like I think Lisa Runa's kids have an interesting time. I think it's it's a lot, you know, it's a lot. There's a new sorry, I know we're not advertising other podcasts, but if you know there's a podcast about America's next top model.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:42

Oh, there's a few. No, but there's a new model. Does Shakeula have one even? Oh, like a like an expose. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:48

And it has like, it has like, I feels like it has higher production. Oh, okay, I'll listen to you. How did I hear about it? For Bethany's podcast? It was like, um, but it's like a proper like deep dive into the curse of America's next top model.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:00

Sign me up. Because there was a really badly made like uh reality show about how toxic reality shows were, which was amazing. Uh, that I watched, and there was one episode on Top Model, and they had like Lisa D'Amato who got real fucked over, but yeah, she was happy to fully trash.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:18

Adrian Carey first were not always happy to.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:20

All of them were there just being like, what the fuck? And that was good-ish, but I was like, I want more. And I guess now the biggest loser, Docco, is that I watched all of that.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:31

That was a bit of shit. Caffeine pills and water wave, like we knew. The thing I liked about was that um Gillian uh Michaels and Bob Harper don't talk, and that Gillian seems like which we've kind of gotten to know over the last few years. I don't think she's very nice, and I think she's love Bob. No, love Bob. Bob's great. He was great, I mean she is in Jillian, yeah. Oh, oh not she is in Bob. We love her, yeah. She is in Jillian. Like yikes. Not nice. Do you remember that story when AJ Rochester, who was the host of Australia's uh biggest loser, she um moved to America and she's had a crazy social media kind of like she had the kind of social media where she was like, We've got puppies and we need to sell them. Can anyone re-home these puppies and like videos of her going to the drive-thru and she's put on all this weight and you know anyway? She had a story where she was like became an Uber Eats driver essentially in LA and had to deliver booze one time to a party, and it was Bob Harper's party, and she had to give it to him, and he was like, Oh my god, do you want to stay? And she's like, I can't, I'm working.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:34

I can't, I'm an alcoholic, and I'm working on it.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:37

Not an alcoholic, I think she might have food issues because she like had crazy weight gain and and loss and stuff. That is a wild a former theatre restaurant worker like myself, so join the union.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:46

Yeah, yes. Um, before we head over to Uncut, yeah. The Uncut Interior Illusions Lounge to talk about Project Runway and other things. Uh

Drag Race UK

SPEAKER_02 1:02:58

Uncut on the bias. We're gonna get yes. Drag Race UK is back this week. Will you be watching?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:03

I didn't even know about it. Um, hey, sure, sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:07

It's yeah. I will because the UK one always is always good.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:11

The drag race exhaustion is real. Like, I do feel tired. I'm sure I'll still watch, but I do feel tired about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:19

Very tired about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:20

I feel almost as tired as RuPaul is, clearly. I feel like he's just slowly piecing out.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:25

And look, I watched the Meet the Coins, and I've gotta say, it's just the same shit. Like, even in the UK now, they've had enough seasons of it where it's like they're like, all right, it's me. Hey, all right, I'm a bit of um, I look glamorous, but I'm a real mouth, I'm a slab. And you're just like, oh my god, we we fucking get it.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:46

Yeah, and then and then there'll be some high concept kind of like I'm a carpet saleswoman from Leeds or something. Like, and it's like okay. And then there's someone who's like, I'm cool and black and sexy and I weigh like 20 kilos. And then there's someone else who's like, I've never really done drag before, but I'm trying it out.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:02

And I'm from Northern Ireland.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:05

Yeah, yeah. And then it's like, I am from a batch of ketamine, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:09

Which so I can't wait to see them all do it again.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:12

So you your drag character should just be called the bag.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:16

The bag. The bag of chips.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:19

Oh bag of something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:21

Should we go hop on over to Uncut?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:23

Yeah, let's pour some more wine and and hop on Uncut.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:25

All right. We'll see you there, Dallas.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:27

Ma'am. Bye bye.