And Just Like Poop Criuse... (w/ Stephen Wakefield)

MAYDAY! It's a poopmergemcy episode with total “Samantha”, Stephen Wakefield. The divas take a mid-winter check in on Netflix docuseries, Survivor 48, The Real Housewives of Atlanta, Next Gen NYC and more. Then the girlies go deep on everything wrong with And Just Like That Season 3 so far. Ms Bradshaw is not safe.

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Transcript

Intro

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This podcast was produced on the land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation.

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Welcome to Australia! Someone who is such a connoisseur of reality television. The content is hideous.

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Oh my god. Oh my god. I wasn't ready for that. She's rolling! Oh sorry. Action.

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Hello, darling. Hi.

Stephen Invented The Couch

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Hi, Baba.

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Look, I I think I suggested it, maybe.

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But we started Ali. Yeah, we started the couch in the famous uh Balinese recap of uh Real Housewives Sydney. And then now I just I can't not be in a place of couch.

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No, I think this works. Yeah. It's cringe to be at a table. It is.

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And it's it disarms the guests when they are lying down. We did have last week Michael McDermott was very upset that some people wear shoes on the couch. And to that I say, hey girl. Well, and is upset. Sorry, not too shall we take our shoes off. Do you want to see my feet?

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Remember in Bali actually, I was like going, I wonder if people will get a bit horny for the feet content. Well, that's the thing.

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I'm like, paywall that shit.

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Yeah.

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If you would like to see this episode with no shoes on, subscribe. It's literally the same thing. Perfect.

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I think my mum noticed this podcast. Does she really? Um, yeah, we talk about it.

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There's a few random people that I'm like, what? Like someone I met on a tour once, which shout out to you guys.

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I love it. Fantastic.

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Who are like, we're gonna listen to your pod. I'm like, do you watch any of these shows? No, yeah.

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Well, I guess when I watch the show, about it, people are like, Oh, I never I've never seen a Housewives, but I I've listened to the podcast and it just sounds so fun.

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I have heard people be like, You've spoken about shows, so then I've gone and watched them. Yes. I think like Mormon Wives, not enough people are smashing that. Go and watch it. It was good.

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I will. I'm gonna be one of those people like Game of Thrones that I started uh after everyone watched four seasons and I went, What is this show?

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You'll wait for a spin-off to start.

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And then I started and I watched it.

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When they start as Real Husbands, you'll be like, Oh, I'm on the wives now.

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Gimme. Yeah. Gimme, gimme, gimme. Um sorry, my brain's just like flashed because I wanted to talk to you about. Sorry, I'm taking over the pod. I wanted to talk to you

Drag King Show

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about um the Drag Kings show.

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Oh, yes. So I haven't watched one episode. It's one out.

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I've got it ready to go.

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I tried to watch yesterday, but then I you best believe I'm already in talks with Gene Litzer about some kind of We gotta bring Gene in. We gotta talk about. I mean, look, I'm not gonna commit to that just yet because it might be shit house.

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Yeah.

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But what I'm hearing is that it's it could be good.

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At least in through like just notes.

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Yeah.

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Gene's a perfect person because she has the drag race drag race podcast. Um, and so it could be good just to have like a little a little like segment, a little moment.

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From what I've heard, it's like it's all heart, no budget, which I love shows like that. Like it's giving season one. Yeah, apparently it's like that. The best. Also, about bloody time, we had some drag kings. Yeah, definitely.

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I mean, there's some seriously, some of the most inventive performers. They've got to do so much more. They can't rely on body oddy odd.

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Someone made an analogy to me once about drag kings, where they were like, This is a drag performer themselves, so I won't name. But they were like, Look, it's just like at the circus, you know, you've got the the sword swallowers and the and the jugglers, and unfortunately, no, you know, nobody wants to book the jugglers, and I'm like, girl, we're gonna tell you who I think said that. And I was like, Yeah, but it's true, it's it's a hard life for a king.

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But they're there, they're doing it, they're on the show. Great, makes sense.

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Every now and then one will pop up at baby drag, and I'm like, go off.

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Yeah, same. Love it.

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Get the coins, yeah. We'll report back on Drag King's show.

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Should we dial in Gene and we'll talk?

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Hey, she hasn't started it yet either. Okay, cool. Um no one knows where to watch it, but we're working on it. I think it's on Apple.

unknown 4:21

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 4:22

Oh, yeah, because it's that uh it's a new site called Revelry or Reveler or Revolver Upstairs or something like that.

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It's a new revolver-based streaming service.

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Look, don't put it past them.

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I would actually, if there was a live stream of Revolver, I would tune in occasionally.

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I would too.

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If you were ever like having a sober weekend and you just want to feel good about yourself, you just chuck it on and be like, I'm not there.

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I'd be like, all right, all right, secret dumd dollar show, show me. Come on, come on, daddy dumdola. You love it at a time.

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I love it.

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Oh my god, I'm such a Was he you so you just threw a party in Sydney recently.

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Oh yeah. Was he at that? No. But it was he's was it that crew? No, did I make that up?

SPEAKER_01 5:06

No, no, no. Uh I was with uh Nina Las Vegas in the celebration of her tenth record label uh anniversary. So we threw a big party in Sydney which was really fun. Um and she's yeah, close with all that crew, but I mean no no DD too. No D D there.

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No, but other iconic the only D D was the Diddy that you put Tom Dalling.

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Well, shushy, shushy, shushy. No one knows about that. Oh cute, yeah.

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I he's a little kitty. And when Art Simone did the Can we talk about Art Simone doing Dom Dollar Drag? That needs to be on the drag king show.

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That was truly it blew my mind. I was watching it being so skeptical, being like, alright, here we go. There we go. It did take a while to get there, and then I was like, whoa, and then I think um uh Dom Dollar got in on the comments and posting, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he loves that shit. Come on, it was cool, it was really cool. Yeah, a true ally. I cannot believe it.

SPEAKER_02 6:05

I was like, because they've got the same kind of jaw angular, yeah, and like art has a fantastic jawline. I know, enviable yeah, um art dollar art dollar uh so did you watch the trending Netflix documentary special about the poop the poop cruise?

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Do you know what I actually did? I did on your recommendation Well, I was like I don't know, yeah.

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This does not need to be It was 55 minutes, could have been 20.

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It it actually could have been I'm happy for the case.

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She's excited about Dom Dollar, get off me. Frida would thrive on a poop cruise. Oh yeah, she'd love it. She'd be like rolling around, she'd be like, excrement falling from the ceiling, sign me up in a buffet, in a buffet? You'd be sniffing those red bags, you filthy skilly bitch. Um poop

Trainwreck: Poop Cruise

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cruise. Yeah.

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I ex I I actually expect it to be a bit more dramatic. Same. Well, it is dramatic. It was both more dramatic than I thought. Gulf of Mexico less Mexico less America. Gulf of Mexico. Um, and it's like, yeah, the cruise ship gets stuck there for like five, like five days.

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Stranded would be.

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No reception and helicopters going around, like it's hot, there's no air con. I get it. Uncomfortable. Bad, bad, bad. And then the toilets stopped working. Yeah. Now that would actually drive me so insane. It would drive me insane.

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Those three girls, the girls that are like, Mexico, take Philip Shot.

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Like, I was going on my dream bridle shower, and you would not believe the horror it turned into. Oh, wait, actually, it's not that southern. Sorry, I had to put on a really bad accent.

SPEAKER_02 7:57

Um the middle one looked like kind of like Isla Fisher or something. She looked she looked um like a D-lister. Anyway, the when they started talking at the start, I was like, oh shut up, you precious queens. They were like, the red bag and peeing in the shower, they were scandalized by peeing in the shower. And I was like, I do that every day. Like for saying much. But then when the tugboats pulled the boat and the poo started squelching around, then I was like, oh, okay. I was like, now I am joining the girlies on their journey. Yeah. But at first I was like, shut up. I was like, get over.

SPEAKER_01 8:40

Everyone's so privileged. They're just like, Oh, my holiday was ruined. My four-day, five-day holiday was ruined. And it's like, actually, where do you think you're gonna go if there's an emergency on these boats? Like, where did you think you were going? The best bit is when the um the sister cruise ship comes close and then they think they're being rescued. And then we're just being and then it's just all these people on a working cruise ship taking pictures and waving, going, would you not having dreams? I would unalive at that point. Oh my god.

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I can't think of a fate worse than being stuck on a the poop cruise. And then a non-poop cruise comes by and you are just being I would actually jump off.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Oh, I would swim to the other cruise or die trying.

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The VIP boat is over there. I need to be on that one. I can't be on this one.

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Also, is it Jen, the cruise director? I love her. Oh my god. I love her so much. She is just uh she's uh the last bastion of hope in this world.

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I loved her. And do you know why she has that job? She's the party style.

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And she's unflashable.

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Yep. She's just like she was on contact aside. It's like, let's go. It's your party gets to be a big thing. The bags was her idea. Yep. She was like, everyone loves bags.

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Get on the bags at the booth. She was great.

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Yeah, she was really good. She was a really good narrator, too.

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Hmm. And just being able to live through that, like, she can truly do anything now. Like, I think Jen should be the president, the CEO of the universe.

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Yep. Yep, I agree.

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Give her a job that requires more pressure than that. I think she can rise to the occasion.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

I think so too. I think so. That's who you want in the White House. Um the biggest revelation I think that comes from it is that when it cuts to the maritime lawyer.

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The cigar the cigar smoker with the fish tank in the marriage. That maritime lawyer's jerking off watching this boat. He's like he's like, I'm gonna make so much money from this ship.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

But you know, my my tempo hat is like, okay, that guy funded that documentary with the winnings 100%. Because at the very end they talk about what happens to the cruise ship, what happens to the people, uh Missy Moo with the bridal shower, she had the perfect wedding. Like, everyone ended up having a great time, and now it's a funny story in their life. Yeah. Then there's a title card that comes up that says that that lawyer settled all of his cases. I didn't know. And I was like, This is like this is not an ambulance chaser. This is a like a C accident chasing lawyer. And they this is propaganda for him to go look at what I've done.

SPEAKER_02 11:25

They all got full refunds plus cash, plus they got like a lot of stuff. They got a lot, but and so great time to watch this because I'm just about to go on a cruise. So I was like, Adam, we're watching this documentary before we go on a cruise year. And then he was like, Do we need insurance? Yes, and I was like, Yes, yes, so we looked into cruise insurance, which is really expensive, by the way. We have bought some, but Adam, Adam was like, Oh nah, but old mate will just come, he'll sort us out. Yeah, he was like, nah, but they all got refunds. Like, if anything goes down, we'll be fine. And I was like, babe, that's because it was a PR disaster.

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Yeah, CNN picked it up.

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Yeah, oh my god, that was also a stretch, like getting the CNN reporter involved to be like, it wouldn't normally be a story, but you know, then Pooh was involved, and I was like, ladies, get the cameras rolling, we're going to Galveston or whatever the fuck.

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We had a new CEO, and she he saw what was happening and was like, we're gonna do something different today. We're gonna cover that story. And so they sent helicopters.

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The poo crews. Yeah, it was look, it was cute. Will I be checking out the rest of the train wreck series? Probably not.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

Is it a whole series? Apparently, they're just like all different okay. Do you know what it is? It's like Firefest.

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Exactly. Yeah, the Firefest Occo popped off, and now they're like, what else was a shit show? Yeah, yeah, a literal shit show. It should have been called shit show, not train wreck.

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Yeah. Come on, Netflix call us. Netflix call us.

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I love also because I very rarely partake in Netflix, but when I do, I'm like, I do like to see what's trending in this fine nation.

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Yeah.

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And it was like that was number one. Number two was K-pop demon hunters. What the fuck is that? I don't know. I wanted to ask you about that because I was like, this is I've had like six people text me this week being like, are you watching K-pop demon hunters? And I'm like, no, should I be?

SPEAKER_01 13:23

Should we? Looks cute. Okay, I think it's for cute. I don't really I don't really dip into Netflix either. No, because it's except for Gilmore girls.

SPEAKER_02 13:30

Oh, is that on that? Oh, yeah, yeah. But that's not their content. They're I'm talking mostly their original content, which is like 90% of it these days.

SPEAKER_01 13:37

Yes, yes, yes, yes. It's all whatever. Whatever.

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It's documentaries that they drag the fuck out. Like you meet one person and then they're like, oh. And then next week you meet like the murderer, and you're like, oh my god, kill me. Like I'm next.

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Take me out. Come on, just do me. Do me.

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But there was that. Have you oh so you haven't

The Curious Case of Natalia Grace

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seen the Natalia Gross? So speaking of documentaries, because we finally finished all of it.

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Because it's multiple seasons.

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Yeah, so this is the curious case of Natalia Gross. There's three seasons of it. Amazing. The first one is a little bit of a struggle because you're like, what the fuck is this? It's like the real world version of the orphan. Oh my god. That horror movie.

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Yeah.

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Or so you think. So they totally paint this like disabled dwarf as like a a monster in the first season.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

And you're like, which is uncomfortable for that. Is that because they like they really listen to the m adopted mother's side of the story too much? Because I remember because I haven't seen the documentary, but I remember um watching it kind of unfold online. And I remember being like the biggest confusion was like the mum being like, No, she's an adult.

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So it turns out she's not an adult. That woman was insane. Yeah. And then so you need to get to season two to learn all this. And season two. So season two, they finally bring Natalia into the menu. Yeah. And you're just like, whoa.

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Like insane. Okay. This actual poor person.

SPEAKER_02 15:08

You're like, what the fuck? But then also but then she's finally out of that situation. And she gets adopted by these crazy happy clappers. And then it's like a whole and then she starts speaking like praise Jesus. Like it's wild. And then you're like, thank fuck she's finally okay. And then I'm not even gonna tell you what happens next because it's wild, but season three that came out like earlier this year.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

It gets dark, though. You're like darker.

SPEAKER_02 15:34

Oh, it's darks you out, but it is shot like 90-day fiance. Like it has the production value of a TLC show. The learning channel. It's poverty porn. Uh-huh. It's it's not uh it's not giving Netflix documentary, it's giving absolute trash. Yeah. Um, so that appeals to me.

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Okay. I'm in.

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Yeah, definitely check it out.

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I'll wait until my serotonin levels are really strong. Because I feel like this will probably send me over the edge.

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It's yeah, it could.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

Yeah. You know how I teeter totter on either side.

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Make sure you check in. Yeah.

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Maybe I'll take a little beta blocker or something first.

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Totally. Oh my god.

Rich People Suck

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Yeah, there's a lot of docos. I watched the Titan submarine implosion one. I haven't done that.

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Do you know what? I didn't really get in when it was happening online. I was like, I don't care.

SPEAKER_02 16:28

Same. I'm sorry about that. Anything involving like billionaires doing things, I'm usually like, uh, billionaires doing things. Bessie's just getting married.

SPEAKER_01 16:36

Now that should be a reality show. Can you imagine? Just about the wife though. What's her name? Lauren? Yeah. Her she's her first dress that she was pictured in today's giapparelli. It's like, how do you make that look bad? Yeah. How? It's impossible, but you mate, you seem to make it happen, babes.

SPEAKER_02 16:53

And of course, they're doing the most like disruptive, like it's in Venice, right? And they're like shutting down the city. Like it's you couldn't just like protests around everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

People putting coffins with Bezos bodies on top and putting them in the in the water. Stunning. Like Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

Well, yeah, I so I felt the same way about the Katy Perry in space thing.

SPEAKER_01 17:15

Katy Perry will be at the wedding. Surely. She will. Yeah. She'd have to be.

SPEAKER_02 17:20

Oh, but she's here. She's at Pooftof.

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Did you say that? I know it's like everyone hates Katy Perry except for Pooftoff.

SPEAKER_02 17:27

Katy Perry rocked up at Poofdorf, a notorious club.

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But I think she's a gay club in the club. I think there's like connections with some of the DJs.

SPEAKER_02 17:39

So a bit all more organic, I think, than just a I think she felt bad because there was a rumour she was gonna do that last time she was here for the AFL grand final and she didn't rock up. Got it. I know because friends of mine went on the rumor and she never rocked up.

SPEAKER_01 17:56

No, I actually remember being at the rooftop bar and we're talking about it with friends.

SPEAKER_02 18:00

Yes. Well, she didn't come, so I reckon that got out and she was like, Oh, I better actually feed the gays this time. Yeah. But yeah, billionaire-related stuff. I usually tune out, couldn't care. And then but this the doc this Titan Suppering documentary, again, super dark because it was super avoidable. It's one of those things you're just like, how did everyone say yes to this crazy guy? Oh, because he was rich. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

People will do anything for billionaires.

SPEAKER_02 18:27

Yeah. Little daddies. But it's a good one. If you want more maritime lawyer drama, he should have been there.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

He should be on that. Yeah.

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Cigar smoking man rock side.

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I wish I had a visual to show to the uh the followers, the listeners.

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Uh speaking of disasters, you finished

Survivor 48

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Survivor season 48. Oh my god. Which I'm like, what? That when you told me you watched it, I was like, random. I didn't know you were Survivor Girly.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

I do, but like everything else, I'm behind. Oh no, you're not that far behind. I know, but I never watch when it's airing. I can't handle week to week. I get so into Survivor, I'll watch a season in two nights. Whoa.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

And I'll just like it's probably the way to do it. I did this one week to week, and I'm not gonna lie, it was in the BG.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

Yeah, and I like I I just have too much um anticipation, anxiety to wait till next week to find out what happened. Yeah, it'll drive me absolutely bothered.

SPEAKER_02 19:20

Maybe I'll do 49 in that way. I'll do it with you. Okay, we'll just do it in like two nights.

SPEAKER_01 19:26

Yeah, and it's like, and you know, it's like six hours each night and just smash to it. Yeah. But I loved this season. I don't know how well it went. I know, I don't know why.

SPEAKER_02 19:36

It's going down in history is like the biggest flight ever.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

Because I'm like, there's not very much gameplay.

SPEAKER_02 19:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:44

But I thought like really interesting characters, and I absolutely balled my fucking eyes out when Eva freaked out and had her whole episode.

SPEAKER_02 19:52

And I and I just it was like it was a beautiful moment, but it was so American. I know, I know. I've got you, girl. I'm here to hold was it Joe holding her the fire? Is that the firefighter guy? Yeah, yeah. He is hot. Do you know who I thought was really hot this season? Can you guess? Shaheen. Oh, so hot. Yeah, that is like that's my kind of death. Like boring as fuck on the show, but hot.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

Hot. I have um parasocial relationships with uh the hot people on any survivor, and I um when I watch it because I'm so behind, I can't look them up to see what their hot social media presence is because I'm like don't tell me, yeah, true. So I have like, I'm like, alright, two days. I can last two days without looking these people up. And then as soon as I know the outcome, I'm like, great, looking them up. And Shaheen, oh my god, what a dream.

SPEAKER_02 20:42

Sexy guy, but yeah, kind of douchey. Apparently, he's like he's doing cameo and stuff, and like he's really milking it.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

Well, you've got to ride the wave exactly for you know for a season that's hasn't has gone down as not well received.

SPEAKER_02 20:56

Well, my biggest criticism was all the gays and the girlies that I was excited about being there all got voted out like straight away. They the like California girls alliance. I was like, woo, it was all about that.

SPEAKER_01 21:07

Yeah, and I I thought it was really interesting when um Tony was like, I'm bringing all the there's no strategy, I'm bringing all the strongest contestants to the end. I was like, oh, that's a first. But then you actually realise how boring the show is if you just bring all the strong people.

SPEAKER_02 21:20

And but it's also but it's editing as well. Because like on Australian Survivor, they don't introduce us to alliances or anything really unless it's like relevant later. I don't know, they they they they tell the story, they almost treat the audience like they're a bit dumb, big dumb dumbs, which is great. Um, so you're only be being fed what you need to know about the alliances and whatever. On the American mind, I feel like it's just kind of like, yeah, here's all these people, and then you get attached, and then they go and you're like, Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

Thanks. It's like actually the drag race edit. The more the people are in the episode, the more they're getting attached to it.

SPEAKER_02 21:57

Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_01 21:57

Because they're just like, We're gonna need to give you a storyline for. This person to leave. Let me go on to the next one.

SPEAKER_02 22:01

I don't like that. I like the backdoor approach. Like, see, you didn't do enough to get to make good TV. Bye.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:09

At the back door you go. See ya. Forgettable.

SPEAKER_01 22:12

You can actually swim with your way out of here.

SPEAKER_02 22:14

Did you love Mary? She was a bit of a fan fave. Hang on, no. Went too soon.

SPEAKER_01 22:20

Uh how have I already forgotten this? I loved oh no, I loved Mary. She was fum. Love, love, love. She went. Yeah. Yeah, no, I loved Mary. And I think 12 times. Um what I really loved with Mary is that she was probably going to be voted out so many times. Yes. And I love when someone sticks around long enough and they're just always on the bottom and they're just like, I'm on the bottom, you're voting me out. And they just make their way through it. Like I I love that arc. Yeah. I'm always in it.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

Yeah. And I mean, not an exciting. Okay, so the final tribal, this final tribal with these three. I have never cringed so much at television in my life when they were like, oh, but I kept all that a secret. Because actually, I'm amazing, and I went to an Ivy League school and whatever. And all the things I like kept from them. I was like, this is really lame, yeah guys. Like really lame.

SPEAKER_01 23:22

Tell me one thing that you didn't use to get yourself far. Alright, well they had all these secret hidden. Which I actually think Evil was Evil is set up for so much success. I do really hate in the American Survivor. It might happen in Australia, I'm not sure. But when people get little scrolls in their chips when they do food.

SPEAKER_02 23:42

No, no, no. Australian Survivor does this, but like when they do it, it's really camp. Okay. They do this thing where it's like there's a one ginormous bowl of pasta, and it's like, I'm not making it. And they're like anyone can get it. No, no, but they do it like each of you gets a go with the pasta one by one. You pick the order, and so the last person gets there, and like the pasta's all fucking gross, and it's like all missing, and like this is how you do it. And you and it's usually like on the bottom of the plate or something. Yeah. Because so good.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

That's amazing. Because I think like in the 47 uh Missy Moo won, she got the same scroll in a chips thing, and it's like the producers are setting people up to go further with this narrative. A big bowl of pasta and it's at the bottom, you just gotta figure it out.

SPEAKER_02 24:34

The little journey, the journey can fuck off. Fuck off journey.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

I don't I what well it's Jeff. Jeff loves the journey and Jeff needs to take a journey and never come back.

SPEAKER_02 24:46

Jeff needs to nominate himself for the journey to fuck off island.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

Yeah, he needs his he's being voted out. I know they'll keep him to 50. They'll keep him to 50 and then they'll get rid of it. But isn't he like EP?

SPEAKER_02 25:00

Yeah, so how can he?

SPEAKER_01 25:01

He'll move on. He's so old. His like his face is so tight and his neck is so wrinkly. Babe, oh that chooky neck. You're gonna have to cut him in half and count the rings, but he would be 70, 80, he's ready to retire, and his money, he doesn't need that. He doesn't need this job. And he keeps falling over on set. He's actually insurance.

SPEAKER_02 25:20

Does he really fall over?

SPEAKER_01 25:21

In four seven, and he was like, But I'm like, your insurance or liability, you're too old. Come on, come on, Jeff Biden. Get out, get out and let someone else take over. Who would you want to host? Is it I'd want like a poverty, or I'd want like an extra.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

I would like a woman. Yeah, oh poverty would be stunning hot. She'd be so good. The guy that hosts uh Deal or No Deal Island, Joe Joe Murphy.

SPEAKER_01 25:51

Hot Joe from the hot sexy dancing movie.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

He would be good because he's got the same vibe, but hot.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

They could maybe they're priming him.

SPEAKER_02 26:00

Maybe it's not like a rival show. I've not seen it. Is it really? I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01 26:04

Just because I saw like poverty was actually on the show. Feels like a cheetah brand. Fucking Bethany. Bethany. Bethany. Oh, she's such a freak. Sorry. I just realized because I was there's um someone uh there's someone who I follow on Instagram and I can't remember their name now, but they're a new Missy Moo. Missy Moo, New York comedian who does the girls rewatch podcasts. Oh yeah. Um they uh recap Bethany's social media every day. And so there's one where they're like um recap of Bethany Frankl's posts the last 48 hours. Which there's a lot to recap. And it's sometimes it's like Bethany was on a plane and called this person and they say a slur, and then she got off, and then she said that her sandwich wasn't good enough, and then she she threw it at someone and called them a slur. And it's like, actually, I don't ever want to see Bethany's social media content, but I want to see that content. I love someone recapping the content. We've gone we've gone real much.

SPEAKER_02 27:00

I need safe, I need like a safe distance from Bethany's content. Everyone does. So someone explain it to me is more safe for me to participate.

SPEAKER_01 27:09

It makes me kind of like it. Um Bethany's person who's doing God's work. Yeah, I'll I'll send it. Maybe you can put it on the pod on Insta, but they are so funny. My god, they're so funny.

SPEAKER_02 27:20

I need someone to recap Frida's social media content. Well, she deserves it. She's chasing a remote control car.

SPEAKER_01 27:29

Um, Frida is humping the town.

SPEAKER_02 27:31

She's just fucking the bed last episode with Rob. Frida just started fucking a bed. And he was trying not to address it. Yeah, he was trying not to address it, and then I'm like, I'm like, just go for it. He's like, What? She's fucking she's about to do it. You

Next Gen NYC

SPEAKER_02 27:48

you haven't started next gen nyc? I haven't. I haven't. I kept calling Gen Z NYC, but it's not what a name.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

But I don't I think they're older than Gen Z, aren't they? Oh no, maybe not. I'm not sure. Um Brooksy. Brooksy, but I just am not into a Nepo baby.

SPEAKER_02 28:08

And sure.

SPEAKER_01 28:09

And like not I don't I'm not I don't care if they're on a give them a show. Don't care. I'm just not gonna watch. I don't care. Put Kim Zolziak on a show.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

She's in a lot of FaceTime.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

Of course, of course, because they all are. But I'm like, I would rather just see all the mums on a show. Because I act I had a shower thought actually where I was like, I think that they just need to leave everyone on the show. Like, no one leaves. You have a bad season, deal with it. Stay, make a redemption. I was like, imagine if we had um 25,000, whatever her name was. Dana. Dana. 25,000. Imagine if she they f forced her to do another season and she was able to go even more crazy.

SPEAKER_02 28:50

It's like Squid Game. I'm like, the only way to leave is to get shot.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

Yeah, or do whatever Brandy does, and then you'll be forced to leave. But I'm like, you should they should actually keep people on for longer. Let them let them have a shit one season and then let them come back. I want more.

SPEAKER_02 29:11

I want more.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

I want more.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

I want more mummy.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

More money. Yeah, good enough. I was thinking this because I I'm a big Atlanta fan. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Oh yeah, tell me. So I still haven't

The Real Housewives of Atlanta

SPEAKER_02 29:20

made I still haven't started this season. It'll be over soon.

SPEAKER_01 29:22

Yeah, well, it's about to finish. But I'll binge it is good. Is it worth it? It is good. Okay. There's one cast member who, funnily enough, I just said they should um keep people for longer. But she's miscast. She should be on like love and hip-hop or or married to medicine or whatever. One of those shows. She just seems a bit more like in it and scrappier, but she is the she has a fight with Kenya Moore. Yeah. Kenya Moore Haircare. Um who at the Kenya Moore haircall hair care launch launch. I'm fucking up my words now. Um the launch launch. Pulls out pictures of naked pictures of cast members and on a giant placard and is like, this woman is a whore.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

Which is like revenge porn.

SPEAKER_01 30:11

Revenge porn. It absolutely is revenge porn. And so can you get skicked off the show for it? Because it's actually a crime, sure. Um and yeah, ouch. Yeah, but Britt is suing Bravo because of the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

But I think she also knows that she's the Bravo legal team. Imagine a day in the life in the offices at the legal department. It's like you got Brandy Glanville's lawyers on the phone, you got Caroline Manzo, fucking Liam McSweeney. You got Bethany, fucking Raquel's people called.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

Everyone's everyone be suing. I know.

SPEAKER_02 30:48

Like they they'd be those people need a mental health care check. Can we check up on them? Yeah. Everyone needs it. The bravo legal team. Can we shout them like a retreat?

SPEAKER_01 30:59

They probably make so much money from it. Yeah, actually, he'll kind of need a retreat. They're just rolling in it, going, Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:06

Let's put another Andy Cohen with a top hat on and a mustache. Like for like he's not, there's no legal department. There's no HR.

SPEAKER_01 31:18

And he just goes, I'm Andy Cohen Cohen. And then when he's the lawyer, he's like, I'm Dandy Cohan.

SPEAKER_00 31:24

Mandy Cohen.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

She's got a wig. It's a wig, Mandy. Stunning. Um, but it is good. There's some new new faces on Atlanta. Okay. Um, they uh yeah, a couple of good ones who actually do really well. Shamia, who's Porsche's um like Porsche's friend who would pop up throughout Atlanta's previous season, she's made a full-time uh cast member, and she's so good at it. She's really good at it. People have called her out for being a little bit boring or a bit safe, but she actually is good. She narrates really well. She kind of gets in the muck when she needs to, but then she also lets the muck happen around her. She's kind of good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:07

You had me at Revenge Upon. I will involve.

SPEAKER_01 32:10

Yeah, yeah, it's worth watching because it's it actually is shocking. And we've seen shocking things on all of the housewives. We've like husbands killing themselves. We've seen like people's houses burned down, we've seen whatever the head did. You stole my goddamn house. Yeah, we've we've seen people's like uh drug issues, like it's been it's actually, you know, I think we've said this before, it's quite a dark show. But this is like a new level where you're just like, oh my god. And it turns out actually one of the pictures of Brit is apparently of her underage. Oh, and so it's like even worse. Oh I know, it's crazy. Wow, okay. Yeah, anyway, so you don't see any of the pictures, Bravo blows them out, but they leave the drama in. Oh that's good.

SPEAKER_02 32:58

I wish whoever produces our Sydney girlies had the same bravery. Maybe they don't have the same Mandy Cohen backing. Because it's like that last season, I loved it. I loved it, I loved it, I loved it. But I think they were scared of putting some stuff in because of sue suing.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

Yeah, because I'm like surely they all start suing each other to try and keep things off the show. Yeah. Even if they're not willing to actually go through and they'll probably settle or withdraw. But I'm like, they probably to safeguard what they think is important to them, they just send everyone letters, and it's like you're gonna be on this type of show, just let it all out.

SPEAKER_02 33:35

Miami's back. Do you watch Miami? I don't watch it. Oh, it's so good. It's don't do it. Okay, so my it's

The Real Housewives of Miami

SPEAKER_02 33:42

so good. My explanation for Miami, and you only have to start what like two scenes. It was like a yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's kind of like a reboot that had a long hiatus, anyway. Um, it's so good. They're always at a hundred. There's no there's no like ebbs and flows. It literally just starts, and they're like, Oh my god, he's divorcing me! Like, it's crazy from the get go, they're always all getting divorced at all times, and it's heaven.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

That's what we want. Show up, show up to work.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

It's great. Those girlies and the also the outfits, like the Miami fashion is incredible. Like I'm talking every day's a fiesta. It's like neons, say I a lot of like peacock print, a lot of like jungle print. It's J-Lo.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

This is me in Miami. Yeah. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_02 34:38

But like, and it's bling.

SPEAKER_01 34:40

Can I just jump in? You can jump in now, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

And then if I feel like they drip feed you the backstory.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

I know because you know when people do say, Oh, I want to watch the Housewives now because of the podcast, when like how much there's like 17 seasons. Do I have to start from the start?

SPEAKER_02 34:54

You're like, nah, nah, nah. They never start everything.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

I never start from the start.

SPEAKER_02 34:59

I will I will go back if it's good enough. And I'm like, oh, I will. I did Rony from the start. Oh fuck. Oh, that's the exception. We need to start that first.

SPEAKER_01 35:06

That is the actual best. So good. Best best. The first, I mean, the first three seasons, no, maybe two first three and then four, Bethany leaves. Bad season. Yeah. And then Jill Zaren leaves, and then they have like Carol Ransing real. And then P. Diddy's uh brand partner. I know. I'm like, she would she should be back on the show. Um but did you see um in the reboot that Bryn has left the show? Sure. I think they're all leaving the show, babe. I think it's all on uh hold. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:43

Like what show? But no, Mammy's a good one. I think I think you'd get a kick out of it. Just the craziness. Okay. Um yeah. Shall we talk about

And Just Like That Season 3 Episodes 1-4

SPEAKER_02 35:58

the biggest bin fire currently on air? And just like that.

SPEAKER_01 36:05

You mean the sex in the city the poop cruise? The sex in the city poop cruise cruise.

SPEAKER_02 36:09

Yeah. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

It's Sex and the City Pooh Cruise.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

The Poop Cruise.

SPEAKER_01 36:24

I like Struggle. I've I have been watching. I've I I mean, I actually kind of like it. The thing is like it's so easy to watch. Oh. Put it on. It's like that thing you watch between for it.

SPEAKER_02 36:34

When it comes out, I'm like, yes, there's a new app. I'm like ready to go. Cause it's like it's so fun to hate.

SPEAKER_01 36:41

And well, because I think also it has that um like Gilmore girls-esque vibe about it where it's like, actually, I don't care what's going on. They're just making sounds, it's pretty colours, it's the CW at this point.

SPEAKER_02 36:55

Like, it reminds me of like revenge or revenge it is a girl, like it's revenge. Oh my god, at this point, some of the storylines, I'm like, Am I watching Revenge?

SPEAKER_01 37:03

Uh-huh. I I'm I'm into it. I'm into it. Yeah. There's nothing to I don't even know what's happening in it, but I I love it.

SPEAKER_02 37:12

I'm that's the thing as well. There is nothing happening, but I'm finding it so hard to follow.

SPEAKER_01 37:19

And like, because I'm also like sometimes going, because I don't care. It's this is what happened to me watching um Housewives of Sydney when I jumped in season two. When you've got all called Chrissy, and then I just went like, who's like who and who is that person? And who is this person? Yeah. What is what is the meaning of this show? But those answers aren't meant to be answered. Those questions aren't meant to be answered. I think it's like actually more philosophical, can you sit in this uncomfortableness?

SPEAKER_02 37:52

It's therapy, it's immersion therapy. You're right, because EMDR. If you if you want answers, if you're coming to this show because you seek and you crave like the answers to like where did the sex in the city go send up?

SPEAKER_01 38:07

No, no, no, no, no, you might need to interrogate the question that you're asking.

SPEAKER_02 38:12

You need to reflect on your life choices. If you're coming to this show purely to see Carrie wear a big hat and floppy, stupid hat, and walk around town, then this is the place for you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:30

If you're here to see her wear a little prairie, oh I was like, this is actually I was like, out of everything, I was like, this is the most Carrie style that's been on this whole reboot. I'm like, this feels true to the original show.

SPEAKER_02 38:43

Meant to be in Virginia.

SPEAKER_01 38:44

Yeah, I think so. It's I was like, does everyone on the show, my philosophical question is, is everyone on the show seeing the same acting coach? Because it seems very like Oh no!

SPEAKER_02 39:00

You brought drugs for my kids. Oh, acting jail is in full effect. Yeah, I think it could be like a lost situation and they're actually all dead. Oh I think we could find that out soon. That in fact they have all deceased.

SPEAKER_01 39:15

It's yellow jackets, and we're just in we're just in the flashback.

SPEAKER_02 39:18

And they ate Samantha on day one. Ate her out. She'd be like, feed me up, darling.

SPEAKER_00 39:25

I'm delicious. Look at all these. Start from the pussy and end at the mouth. You want to eat these ladies? I'm a human sushi tray. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 39:39

That has significantly improved this show for me. The lore of this show.

SPEAKER_01 39:43

That's the other philosophical part of it, is that I'm actually just imagining what the show could be while I'm watching it. And that is a disassociative coping mechanism that I have.

SPEAKER_02 39:55

And it could go anywhere at any point because it's not it's not flowing. Like they will introduce a character like Rosie O'Donnell being a nun, a virgin nun, lesbian. Because I'm a lesbian and then you get you so excited for a three-four episode story arc that never happens. Never comes. And you're like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 40:21

Uh uh.

SPEAKER_02 40:22

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 40:22

Yeah. Um, what was the what was the meme? I forget what the meme was about for Miranda in the latest episode. She um gets cunt, cunt, cunt, cunt, cunt. Yeah, it was a wild cunt. Wild cunt. Wild cunt. Wild cunt cunt cunt cunt wild cunt.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

Oh, you know, classic meme, wild cunt.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

You know, and then everyone's blowing up the phone, she's freaking out. It's like she would know what a meme is by now.

SPEAKER_02 40:47

She's how is she like famous in this universe? Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:52

Yeah, and she's like a reporter on the BBC. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 40:55

We need to talk about is it Joy from the BBC? The woman that Miranda's like, I'm gonna she's I'm gonna just ask her out. And then those BBC crew members that rock up. Firstly, how rude to just be like bringing all the date, but I'm gonna bring all these drunk British people. Well, I mean, have you carry empty house?

SPEAKER_01 41:21

Have you ever invited a British person over? They invade. No. They invade, they colonize the spaces, they annoyed.

SPEAKER_02 41:29

It's true. And they were very obnoxious.

SPEAKER_01 41:32

They're like, oh darling, remember when we were in Istanbul. I know they take over the whole thing, and it's like, well.

SPEAKER_02 41:39

They were horrible.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

Horrible, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:43

Um, should we start from episode one? Yeah. It was called Outlook. Oh, you're sorry, I jumped, I've jumped around the place. I did too. Uh, this was when we're reintroduced to Gary. Um, she's moving into her luxurious townhouse, except it's full of rats.

SPEAKER_01 42:03

Well, that's inner city living. I know. I was like, bitch, there's rats everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 42:09

She's such a nimby.

SPEAKER_01 42:10

Like, how would you not know you've lived in New York your whole life? You missed New York, you would know.

SPEAKER_02 42:16

She's not going to be at the town hall meeting, like complaining about like Airbnb's.

SPEAKER_01 42:21

And then she'd be like, and we're at cocktails after. Um would you not know? Come on. But that house is so it's easy. Even for a fake house, it's so beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 42:32

Like I'm like, I want to stepped foot in a property in New York even close to and I know some fairly wealthy people in New York. And like Adam and no, well, like that's the thing. Adam and I were like, how is that like that's it's fake. But then I'm like No one is living like that. No.

SPEAKER_01 42:51

But I mean, when Big died, she inherited many, many millions. So of course she can have a many million fake properties.

SPEAKER_02 43:01

What is this where where people are just leaving empty town house lying around in the like fuck off.

SPEAKER_01 43:06

It's actually uh um she just bought a soundstage and built the house inside it.

SPEAKER_02 43:10

No one has got an empty room. That that house would have people in every room. A hundred percent like come on, yeah. At least it should. Yeah, bitch. I know she's like she's full Trump. Yeah, multiple properties. Definitely empty. Yeah. I like we go to a lesbian bar.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:32

And what have they done to Miranda?

SPEAKER_01 43:34

Because she is just Miranda used to be so much like full of you know, heart and soul, and she was like the smarts of the original.

SPEAKER_02 43:42

I don't like making her sober slash like an alcoholic. I just don't like her.

SPEAKER_01 43:48

But also, do you remember she wasn't even that big of a drinker in the original show? No. So this like late in life, which I mean maybe it happens, but I'm like this isn't a Good plot device for her.

SPEAKER_02 44:02

No, and the way they addressed it last season was so bad. Just old drinking Chardonnay at 10 in the morning or whatever. Hiding in the backpack. Oh my god. Yeah. But then her at the at the bar. And I like in every every time she's flirting with a woman on this show, she's like, but I'll have a tea. We'll have a drink, but I'll have a tea because I've got a problem. We'll get a martini and I'll have a cup of tea. Because you know, the program.

SPEAKER_01 44:31

It's like, shut up. Like sponsored by someone. What are you like doing? Yeah. It's just it's just it's cringe. It's embarrassing.

SPEAKER_02 44:41

It is, truly. But I don't hate it.

SPEAKER_01 44:44

That's the thing. And then it's like that's why I'm like always questioning myself, like it's not that bad.

SPEAKER_02 44:49

Well, I mean, at least it's a storyline that they've stuck to, but it's just not a very interesting one. I mean, they've abandoned every other storyline. Yeah, they have. And it just the way she just brings it up, it's so clunky. She's always just like, oh, by the way, big old darky alcoholic over here.

SPEAKER_01 45:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:04

Oh, she's got baggage. It's like, how hard to find love in the city with baggage. It's like, oh. Late in life les yeah, and I was so mad we were robbed of more Rosie because she was fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 45:17

I highlight that that singing in um Times Square. I was just like, you are in the wicked fucking sh and as a like recent wicked uh devotee. Uh love. Yeah. Incredible. So good.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

Uh Charlotte's storylines aren't much better. It's like this hysterical woman in the park accuses Charlotte's dog of attacking hers. Fuck off.

SPEAKER_01 45:47

Couldn't have been the non-binary child attacking people.

SPEAKER_02 45:51

See, that would be good.

SPEAKER_01 45:52

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 45:52

Or like have one of the kids be accused of a rabid non-binary children?

SPEAKER_01 45:57

It's like it's not my non-binary child, it's actually that non-binary child. But you know what I mean? It's like the dog, the dog as a storyline is never good. No. Like I don't care about the dog. I don't even care about the kids. Keep it going. I know. But uh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:14

That's what that was annoying. Then we've got old mate LTW with this documentary that I could not care less about.

SPEAKER_01 46:23

Me either. I'm sorry, LTW.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

Step four now, and I'm like, I'm gonna need something to happen.

SPEAKER_01 46:30

Like, I mean, it takes a lot to get things made in this day and age, I know. But come on. No. Although, wait, are we in the episode where they get a hot and okay? I was like, alright, now we're gonna get somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 46:48

Which like that better happen. Like she better fuck this guy, or else I am out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:54

Well, well, I'll just fast forward the LTW bits.

SPEAKER_02 46:58

Oh, right.

SPEAKER_01 46:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:01

And then Seema is just like being such a cunt.

SPEAKER_01 47:07

I want Seema to have her own show. Yeah. There should be like a Seamer in the City.

SPEAKER_02 47:11

I would watch Seamur in the City.

SPEAKER_01 47:12

That would be the most amazing.

SPEAKER_02 47:15

Because I think the writers think that she's fabulous, but I'm just seeing someone with a lot of insecurity. Yeah. Like I'm not, she's not reading as fabulous to me. She's reading as like annoying, entitled. And like everything impacts her.

SPEAKER_01 47:32

Like everything impacts her. Like every small inconvenience impacts her. Where I'm like, if you're in the back of a car being driven around, Bethany Frankel. Actually, maybe she's Bethany Frankl. Sorry. Sorry, I as I said that I was like, no, Bethany Frankel's in the back of a car being driven around complaining all the time that maybe Seema is based after.

SPEAKER_02 47:50

Can you imagine Seema's social media?

SPEAKER_01 47:53

Yeah. It'd be exactly Bethany Frankl. It'd be Bethany going into the Chanel store in athletia and being ignored, so then coming back in full Chanel and then not being ignored and making reels about it.

SPEAKER_02 48:06

Oh my god, the security alarm going off in the townhouse. I was like, oh, relatable problems. It's such a long walk. I've got to run around. And the rats. And then so we also get Carrie's new love interest. Um Adam Gardens.

SPEAKER_01 48:28

Oh my god. Hot.

SPEAKER_02 48:30

Oh, so hot, but like hot in a very daytime.

SPEAKER_01 48:35

Well, what have you watched Dying for Sex?

SPEAKER_02 48:38

No, but that's another one everyone's telling me to watch it. Is he in that?

SPEAKER_01 48:41

No, but there's a character, and they kind of look like they would be the same person.

SPEAKER_02 48:48

They always give Carrie a guy like this, like a kind of rugged but still clean guy. Anti-big. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she can be like, ooh.

SPEAKER_01 48:56

She's like, see, it's not, it's not another investment banker. Uh-huh. It's he's good. He's just a countdown. He just creates, he just does things.

SPEAKER_02 49:03

We yet to revisit him, but no. Okay. Imagine he just never comes back.

SPEAKER_01 49:09

Well, she's gonna land, I reckon well, plot twist, when she gets back from this trip that she's about to go on. We're gonna talk about I think that's when we'll see him in the other would have made her if she ever escapes Virginia. He would have made her garden gorgeous. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's when she'll fall in love.

SPEAKER_02 49:27

That'll be at five, like episode five, I think, what is out tonight. Oh, yeah, just surely it's got him in it.

SPEAKER_01 49:35

Yeah, I think it has to.

SPEAKER_02 49:36

You're listening from the future, so you can tell us.

SPEAKER_01 49:39

Yeah, um let us know in the comments.

SPEAKER_02 49:43

Fill me in. But also, I wouldn't be surprised if we never hear from him again.

SPEAKER_01 49:48

Again, you never know. Like people just think O'Donnell.

SPEAKER_02 49:53

He could be working at a vet clinic with Ch DS.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

Um and exactly.

SPEAKER_02 50:00

They all go and they all go do tourist things because there's nothing worse, there's nothing more embarrassing than being a tourist. Oh disgusting. Terrible.

SPEAKER_01 50:08

Can you imagine?

SPEAKER_02 50:08

So good.

SPEAKER_01 50:09

I love the tourists.

SPEAKER_02 50:11

Carrie gets rid of her rats. Um episode two was called The Rat Race. Yeah. Very clever. And that's when we had um Miranda getting addicted to the bisexual reality TV show Bible.

SPEAKER_01 50:24

And there we go.

SPEAKER_02 50:25

Iconic. Uh, this was great. Yeah. Loved that. Except for her again fumbling to flirt with someone like a random waitress, like a guak waitress. Oh yeah. Fuck off. That was hard to watch. I'm like, Red has she was also like half her age. I was like, what are you doing, mommy?

SPEAKER_01 50:47

Mummy. Mummy like a guacky, mommy like a guacky. I was watching that the whole time I was watching that guac scene, I was like, God, I'd murder some guacamole chips.

SPEAKER_02 50:59

Yeah, it made me want to mark it made me want sunshine and Mars.

SPEAKER_01 51:03

Yeah, I was I'm ready. Yeah. Ready. Um, yes. I just can't but I just can't see Miranda being that clumsy of a floater.

SPEAKER_02 51:16

Or like maybe a little bit here and there, but they've just made her full clumsy.

SPEAKER_01 51:21

Yeah, where she's just like dropping things, she c she doesn't know where she is, like she's yeah, it's just they're all like um Sesame Street characters, like bopping up and down, like and Charlotte the most is like and she walks like Yes, like it's Sesame Street, that's what's happened. Sesame Street with um non-binary kids.

SPEAKER_02 51:43

Well then, oh my god, so what's the daughter's name? Lily Lily falls in love with Diego, yeah, the polysexual, which is not a thing, uh ballet dancer, who's quite hot, very hot, very hot, as all ballet dancers are, because they've got stupid bodies, incredibly so, and I love that confession at the dinner table. Like, oh, I'm polysexual.

SPEAKER_01 52:09

Well okay, um, no, Lily says it. She when her grandfather goes, Oh, you have a boyfriend also, and she goes, He's Polly. Yeah, and then the other child goes, Polly, you know, polysexual. Polysexual is in the Oxford dictionary. So, and just like this no bonkers like description.

SPEAKER_02 52:33

Yeah, it truly at this point feels chat GPT. Yeah, this is to educate another generation. I think Michael Patrick King has just found out about what this is and was like, write it in. We did the non-binary thing, we've done it. We ticked that box last season, put in a non put in this one. But it does, yeah, it's it's like boxes are being ticked.

SPEAKER_01 52:54

But I'm like, um the bakery guy, the gay Samantha, what's his name? Mario Anthony. I was like, I feel like Anthony and Giuseppe. Anthony would be the one that's explaining to the family what Polly is as a as a gay New Yorker. He wouldn't know what Polly is.

SPEAKER_02 53:12

And they wouldn't do it in front of everyone, it would be like afterwards, and it would be like someone would be embarrassed to ask and he'd be like, hey, it's when you like fucking everyone.

SPEAKER_01 53:18

And everyone's like, what's Polly mean? I know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:20

I mean, look, it is an accurate reflection of like what the kids are doing. I'll give it that. But it's just it's the way it's been written, feels clunky. Yeah. Um, also, like, why? Okay, like why?

SPEAKER_01 53:33

For what reason?

SPEAKER_02 53:35

Giuseppe rocks up at Hotfellas, the new Hot Fellas bakery, the Hot Fellas storyline. Also, why? Why are we doing this? But I do enjoy seeing the outline of a schlong.

SPEAKER_01 53:49

Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. Even though you know it's just like I'm like, people do not walk people do not walk past free food. No. If their samples being handed out, people do not walk past you know, and it's like they do not people love free stuff. Yeah. And so I was like, even that, like, what do you mean? Like, and these out the front, like, please, someone take take one of my bagels, and then no one will take it. It's like people would be like, I'll take that and the tray, I'll take the whole lot. Thanks. Exactly. I would.

SPEAKER_02 54:20

Episode three was called Carrie Go Lightly, and we had all this bread drama. Uh she also The End. And that's it. And that's it. And that's it. No, and also she accepts a speaking engagement in Virginia, so she can visit Ada. And this is when it's like, oh okay, this is the beginning of the end for Miss Bradshaw as she takes a terrifying journey to Virginia, which would she may not survive. Uh, and she's also asked to score some powderole. This she's a drug mule for this cursed child.

SPEAKER_01 55:01

If your partner or the person that you love or whatever has an ex-partner that calls you for drugs for their child, you do not get that. You do not get involved. You do not also carries it.

SPEAKER_02 55:16

Like fucking nah. She would be like, absolutely not. She would be like, I don't feel comfortable.

SPEAKER_01 55:22

She'd be like, oh, maybe if Aiden asked me, maybe. But she's like, sure. She's like, oh my gosh. And then she's like, how am I gonna get how am I gonna get drugs? She's like, and then at ease. No, she like speaks to Charlotte and Charlotte just walks over to a strange woman in a cafe and goes, Hi, um, do you have Adderall? And there's like, yep.

SPEAKER_02 55:40

Oh, I love that.

SPEAKER_01 55:41

I'll get it sent, I'll get it sent to your door, man.

SPEAKER_02 55:43

That was Charlotte's only good scene. I was like, because the rest the rest of Charlotte's storyline is I know boring. So boring.

SPEAKER_01 55:51

Although when she does the drugs in the nightclub with all the gallery girls.

SPEAKER_02 55:56

Oh, the gallery girls was fun.

SPEAKER_01 55:58

I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_02 55:59

But the like erectile dysfunction storyline and stuff like that. That is I can see they're trying so hard to bring us back to yesteryear.

SPEAKER_01 56:08

And I think what they're doing is like is that they they're using certain characters to keep some of the demographic of the fan base. Yes. And so they're like, this storyline will be relevant to the kind of older viewers that are watching this who are maybe going through that same similar thing, who then have kids, and then the kids are going through ancient viewers and the dogs like me that uh only know what's happening in the dogs world. Yeah. Um totally. But you know, like I think it's that where it's like they're just like, oh, and then um Anthony has the gay storyline, so the gays will watch that plus the rations, and then yeah, like it's like nothing. It actually feels like it's actually a cohesive storyline. They're just like comes together. This will be good for that demo, this will be good for this demo. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:53

Episode four was called Apples to Apples, and this is when Carrie rocks up in Virginia and Wyatt is a little cut.

SPEAKER_01 57:02

Oh my god. Taylor Sommelter's time.

SPEAKER_02 57:05

I know. So many like petulant children on this show. It's a real contraceptive of a TV show. Yeah, you're like, oh no, no one's breeding after it watching this show.

SPEAKER_01 57:15

I shouldn't need any of that.

SPEAKER_00 57:16

No thanks.

SPEAKER_02 57:17

No, yeah. We get the polysexual uh announcement as well. The shock reveal.

SPEAKER_01 57:25

Yeah, the shock reveal heard around the nation. A small fan base of people.

SPEAKER_02 57:34

Seema's drama in like her like office drama is so bad when it's just when she's there.

SPEAKER_01 57:40

Ryan Sir Hunt, Cameo, yeah, him taking over her company. It's like Ryan Sahunt from Million Dollar List in New York. That was that was bad. So creepy. That was really bad.

SPEAKER_02 57:50

And I was like, Why no but it's like I'm gonna get you back, like any kind of like and like office politics, and then he has the dick move. Yeah, it's like no, no, no, check mate, and then she it's just a lot of her walking out of boardrooms and stuff, and I'm like, I mean go to bed, Seymour.

SPEAKER_01 58:10

No, go out, go out and live your life.

SPEAKER_02 58:14

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's being such a Miranda and then Miranda is like house sitting for Carrie in her abandoned townhouse. Um, and invites Joy over, Joy Brings the Imagine if Joy and then the Brits are all ghosts. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:35

Okay, I want to watch that show.

SPEAKER_02 58:37

Probably. Miranda died a long time ago. Uh Wyatt has an emotional outburst, which again, it feels like they're trying to tick boxes address things that are like, oh, mental health, or like, you know, yeah, I don't know, they're trying to address ADHD, autism in a really clunky way. Coupled parents with troubled kids. And oh, and of course, this kid's autistic. And it's like they're playing a board game and he like can't deal with it because you know, it's like someone Wikipedia's like, what are like the signs of a troubled child?

SPEAKER_01 59:13

Yeah, what I did really like though is that they let the family dynamic deal with that, and Carrie wasn't like chasing after the Wyatt to go, oh you know, well, you know, I'm just here, and then they have a special bond by the lake. Like she just sits there, goes, Okay, actually, this is quite a lot, and then he throws something in this window's other partners. He's like, Oh, I'm scruff going okay. Uh, who can I um who's who's who's in Virginia? Regional scruff. Who can come over and um give me a rim job?

SPEAKER_02 59:48

Truly. Which I'm saying, girl, I would be doing that.

SPEAKER_01 59:51

Step parents, right? Yeah, I know what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 59:54

I feel uncomfortable for Carrie in this house. Get we need to get her out immediately. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:01

Yeah. Eject. Press it, also, do you know when she like sends Aiden the dining table and he sends a thumbs down?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:10

The dining table made me question everything.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:13

It's like the ugliest looking dining table from and his meant to be a furniture maker. He is not letting you have a black, glossy, glassy dining table.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:22

All it was was just like black with like transparent glass in the middle or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:26

It looked like it looked like one of those um barbecue settings that you'd all sit out around at the end of the thing. Yeah, you know, with a glass top and then everyone's like doing rails off them and like kind of like that kind of thing with you. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've never done it, I've only seen it happen on and just like that poop cruise, but um but I um assume it it happens in real life too. But that's what I thought the dining table looked like, and I was like, of course it's gonna thumbs that down. Oh no, totally um no, not the one, but he's a furniture maker, he's gonna like make something you know, cool and woody and earthy just like him, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:09

When he's not jerking off in the back of the car. I mean and that and again they put that in because they wanted us to be scandalized. Yeah. I'm not I'm not picking up what they're putting down, but I'm enjoying pulling it apart.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:26

Yeah, it's fun. It's what I was it's what it's there for. It's actually uniting us all as a fan base. It is, yeah. It's like a bad politician. It's great.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of the poop crews.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:42

Uh 100%.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:43

It's truly uniting. It's bringing us all together in these trying times.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:48

It's really solace for us recappers.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:55

Exactly. We need this. Oh, Steven, thank you so much. Sam, thank you. Let's go. Let's do it. Well, did the toilet did the toilets work on this cruise?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:09

I'll see you soon, Del.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:10

Thanks so much for having me.

unknown 1:02:11

Bye.