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The Cringe is Real
Australian Survivor - Brains Vs Brawn II Week 8 (w/ Rachel Echols)
Rach is back to chat Aussie Survivor’s penultimate week with Sam. Kaelan’s dreamboat edit has us wet as the golden boy breaks a record this week. Naww. AJ continues to be unlikable and Myles get naughty in trying to take him out (if only!). And of course Morgan and DJ Kate say farewell with a slut drop and a walk off under mysterious circumstances. That and some White Lotus and Handmaid’s Tale.
This podcast was produced on the land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation. Welcome to Australia. Aussie, Aussie, Aussie. This is kind of tragic. Someone who is such a connoisseur of reality television. The content is
SPEAKER_01:hideous. So sorry about this. Oh my God.
SPEAKER_02:Hi. Hello. How are you, Rachel?
SPEAKER_00:I'm good. How are you? I'm so
SPEAKER_02:good. I
SPEAKER_00:like this new setup.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we're on the couch now. It's
SPEAKER_00:really chill. We're doing chill vibes. I've got a huge glass of whiskey. Yeah. It's iced tea.
SPEAKER_02:It is iced tea. It's Thai iced tea. The white lotus. Yes. In celebration of the white lotus season three, which just finished. What did you think?
SPEAKER_00:Look, I... Maybe this, I don't think it's that controversial, but I really liked it. Yeah. I thought it was great. I just think that a lot of people.
SPEAKER_02:Correct.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I just think that people, I don't know. They, it just really went wild, like buck wild with theories this season. Yeah. Which is fine. But then people were like, it's so slow. It's so boring. And I'm like, do you know the other seasons too are quite slow, but also shorter to be fair.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, were they shorter?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Like season one was six episodes. Season one and two. or six and then seven episodes and this was eight episodes
SPEAKER_02:eight was perfect anymore if it was 10 i probably would have agreed with those people saying it was slow but they wrapped it up perfectly yeah i actually think it was one of the better finales same because usually by the end you kind of get the gist of what's happening but this one i was like oh okay
SPEAKER_00:yeah he really just was like Bloodbath, let's just chuck it all out. And I don't know, I just found it, he did the things that you weren't expecting him to do. So even the theories and thoughts of, oh, there's always an accidental death. Monkey theory. Technically, there was an accidental death, but he just came back to life, like Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_02:Adam called it with the blender. Oh, I knew that too. Oh, see, I didn't. Ep 1 or whenever... At the start, Adam was like, oh, that blender is featuring quite heavily. That's what I said. It's going to kill someone. And I was like, how?
SPEAKER_00:I think I only mentioned out loud. I think maybe I mentioned it, but I was like, they just really put a lot of visual on that blender. There's a bloody family in the blender.
SPEAKER_02:But I mean, it didn't actually. It didn't. But it kind of almost did.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it did. I think he died. He died.
SPEAKER_02:He saw... Four monks.
SPEAKER_00:And then came back to life again. But, you know, that was in there. And then it was just like, let's go left turn and kill everybody in a way that seemed kind of off brand. But it was, I don't know. I just thought it was wrapped up. nicely and like right when you had like those moments of yes you know Belinda for example I was like girl get your bag you did it get that fucking money so excited and then the moment she said that to Paunchai and then like the saddest look as he was waving but smiling I was like
SPEAKER_02:when she said my circumstances have changed I was like bitch. I love you. I
SPEAKER_00:was like, you're just like them. It was just like elation to devastation where I was like, wow, money does change people.
SPEAKER_02:2025 is my circumstances have changed
SPEAKER_00:era. And anything that Parker Posey said the whole season. Yeah, great. Just a queen, everything. The face she gave when, because I actually loved like Piper's wrap up too.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, see, I thought she was faking. Well, yep, that. But when she said, oh, actually I realized I'm a rich bitch and that's me for life, baby. I was like, she's faking. That's what her mom wants to hear. And then she's actually going to run off with the cult. That's what I thought. And then I was like, oh no, she just, that was sincere.
SPEAKER_00:I was, I loved that because you were like, you just, I don't believe you. You're really giving that. I'm the, I'm the one that wants to, that understands the world and understands culture in my family. She's
SPEAKER_02:having her Ishka, like mystic phase, you know, like she's, she wants to like wear her like elephant pants and like do all that she's like a vegan for like a week
SPEAKER_00:and like really is like i can do this for a year because your rich family will pay for it like everyone else it's
SPEAKER_02:such a like teenage i mean she's probably older than that but i think she's like 20 yeah she's drinking it's a young girl thing that we all go through i went through that when i was
SPEAKER_00:a young privileged girl especially like let's see how the quote-unquote other half lives
SPEAKER_02:100 it's like you're experimenting and you're like oh i've just realized that there's this alternative And I'm going to run away from, especially if your parents are like religious.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Religious. And then just, you've never had to. worry about anything but I loved that arc for her because you just knew that it was so something was not right and then Parker Posey's face another meme worthy face of her just understand like so excited and you know I saw a great tweet where somebody was like if I send this photo of her face to you it means that I'm right and I was like it's so good and she's like what about
SPEAKER_02:our three girlies
SPEAKER_00:love obsessed
SPEAKER_02:I'm so glad that I fucking loved their ending because I thought they were going to be this like exaggerated housewives inspired characters and that was going to end in tragedy and they were never going to be friends again and they were never going to speak to each other again and the way that it ended I was like oh my god like it actually made me teary I was like these are my girls
SPEAKER_00:and I just think that like that was easy to do from episode one I was even like can't wait to see these bitches blow up like great and they did have these like
SPEAKER_02:they had
SPEAKER_00:their moment they had their huge conflict and you loved it but I loved the end it was so realistic as a woman. I was like, the way that he's written these, this very complex, deep female friendship of like friends that have been that close since high school. I was like, you've done a great job. And yeah, again, was kind of unexpected, but was like lovely. I just thought, and also like, I love Carrie Coon. I mean, I loved all three of them, but I love Carrie Coon. Me too. And they all just played their part. perfectly. Carrie Coon's speech at the table, her little monologue, I was like,
SPEAKER_02:huh. It was great. I thought it was a great wrap up. I'm excited for another season.
SPEAKER_00:Rick deserved to die. Yeah. Chelsea did not. R.A.P. Yeah, but also it was perfect though.
SPEAKER_02:Unfortunately, she, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:The symbol of hope. Messed
SPEAKER_02:around with the wrong guy. His whole storyline, I've got to say, is probably the one I was least interested in.
SPEAKER_00:I think that I just think it was the most obvious, right? Totally. It wasn't supposed to be a surprise. I don't think that that was his dad. Everyone thought about it. I don't think Mike White was trying to make that a surprise. We've all seen
SPEAKER_02:Star Wars. I like the Sitala content. She was stunning. Oh, yeah. She was fab. And I loved the throwback video. Oh, I love those. And I loved Old Mate with the ladyboys. That was great. Sam Rockwell. That was... That was like Emi Wen.
SPEAKER_00:Perfect. Everything about that except... And then another reason that Rick was... fucking dog shit was just his friend saying i'm eight months sober and then just going yeah let's just have some whiskey are you sure you're good i'm like mate
SPEAKER_02:cut to him in the hotel
SPEAKER_00:but you know him running in just his underwear through like through the commando
SPEAKER_02:rolling down the hallway i'm like we've been there so good yeah i'm excited and as one door closes another opens handmaid's tale Do you fuck with Handmaid's Tale?
SPEAKER_00:I did fuck with it until, I don't know, I think the last episode we watched was the end of whatever season. Season five, the last one?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, where they kill, oh, mate. The commander? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that the end of the last season? No, I think that was the end of the one before.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think, and I didn't realise that, I knew it would continue on, but then kind of missed it because there's so much content. A
SPEAKER_02:lot of people miss season five, and it was, like... Yeah, incredible.
SPEAKER_00:Was it? Okay, maybe I should go. Pick it back up. Also because I think my brain said, oh, I missed that. But that was such a good ending watching them all tear him to shreds in the woods that I'm like, that's fine. That works for me.
SPEAKER_02:There's a really good, I shared it on the cringe Instagram account. There's a really good SBS podcast called Eyes on Gilead. It's all women talking about the show, recapping it really well. And they've done like a catch you up episode. It only goes for like, I don't know, half an hour, 45 minutes. Oh, great. They take you through all the seasons. Oh, that's really good. So if you want to just jump straight into six, the one that's on now, and it's the final one. Yeah. So that's exciting.
SPEAKER_00:I've been seeing ads for it and going, oh.
SPEAKER_02:Because it's too hard basket. Because I think they had three years
SPEAKER_00:off even.
SPEAKER_02:Is that why? I've forgotten everything. Like Severance, they had two years off. Oh, that was already long enough. I'd already forgotten everything.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we're re-watching season one. Yeah, I had to. Because there's no way I will remember.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. So this one I'm like, okay, it's been a long time. I shouldn't have left you. But it's so good that we can just catch up now with recaps. Because I'm not watching it again. Especially not the trauma that is this
SPEAKER_00:show. No, see, I wouldn't watch it. I would like a recap of the one to four then. And I would go back and watch season five. But I think, yeah, just in that time frame, so many other things came out. So it just got lost. And then I did see a trailer the other day and I was like, oh, yeah, this looks dark and great. And the guy, a guy that I assumed would have been dead by now.
SPEAKER_02:Oh,
SPEAKER_00:the old guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bradley Whitford. He, I love his character. Me too.
SPEAKER_02:Cause he's like sinister and camp, but like, is he good? Is he bad? Who knows?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Love it. Glad to hear he's still in there.
SPEAKER_02:I think so. Well, he was in the trailer. Yeah. Yeah. He died. It was being like silly. I watched the first episode of season six last night and I won't spoil anything except that I cried quite a lot.
SPEAKER_00:I cried a lot in that show in general, I think. It's a lot.
SPEAKER_02:But good.
SPEAKER_00:Elizabeth Moss.
SPEAKER_02:And then at the very end, it's like directed by Elizabeth Moss. And
SPEAKER_00:I was like, yes, bitch. Yes, queen.
SPEAKER_02:And she was on Watch What Happens Live
SPEAKER_00:this week. Even for a Scientologist.
SPEAKER_02:Love it. Yeah, I know. That's the thing. I
SPEAKER_00:always forget about that. Yeah, me too. Oh, girl. Because her vibe is so not that. It's just
SPEAKER_02:money and
SPEAKER_00:LA, right? Yeah. But she's a great actress and a great director.
SPEAKER_02:Before we get into Australian Survivor this week, boy, what a strange week to talk about. I do need to plug my live show because it is next
SPEAKER_00:week. Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_02:So grab your tikkies. It's your last chance to come along to my live show. I've got Zelda Moon doing a performance. And I've got a lovely conversation with Jean Litzer on Drag Race. Awesome. Is Drag Race dead? Come and find out. And then Ash Flanders and I will be recapping part three of Maths, which is now finished. So we'll be closing a chapter on Maths and we'll also be doing the last week of Australian Survivor, which is next week. So if you want to know, if you can't be bothered waiting for the episode to drop and you want to know our thoughts on next week's Aussie Survivor,
SPEAKER_00:get a ticket and come along. Tell me when. Where? What's
SPEAKER_02:happening? It's Good Friday, April 18th at the railway in North Fitzroy.
SPEAKER_00:Perfect. Oh, the one on Park Street?
SPEAKER_02:Nicholson. Yeah, near Park Street. Oh, yeah,
SPEAKER_00:yeah. Awesome. Get your tickies, babes. Get your
SPEAKER_02:tickies and we'll see you there. All right. Should we just– there's an elephant in the room. And look, normally I don't do speculation and tinfoil hats too much on this pod, but Channel 10 has forced my hand.
SPEAKER_00:The public have done what they've needed to do. Like this is where I'm deep in a Reddit to work things out. Okay, good. So we've
SPEAKER_02:read the same stuff. And so if you don't know what we're talking about, obviously Morgan left the show and...
SPEAKER_00:Well, technically was voted out. Yeah,
SPEAKER_02:technically was voted out, but... After she got voted out, left the show. She didn't want to remain on the jury. And it begs the question, why? And then we also had Mr. Ben leave the show much earlier in the season after kind of getting a bit of a sherry pie at it. So we were already joking about like, what did he do? And now it's like, oh, what did he do? And it's like, could they not have just...
SPEAKER_00:Addressed anything. Addressed
SPEAKER_02:it. And this is so Australian television, isn't it?
SPEAKER_00:It's a nightmare. And I think that it is such a, I mean, Australian media in general, but specifically, sorry, but Channel 10's like, you know, attack to their approach rather to anything remotely controversial. Yeah. The other side of it though is I do wonder just on my little Reddit findings.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I think a large part of it is probably that, but there is also a small part of me that wonders how much of it potentially is coming from Morgan herself. It was filmed a long time ago. She's not addressed anything. True. I just wonder if she also–
SPEAKER_02:Do you think she preferred it to be not made into a big
SPEAKER_00:deal? Potentially. Yeah, true. It just brings up a whole conversation that any person of colour has always had to hold. And then
SPEAKER_02:she's got to fucking explain it to everyone and educate everyone
SPEAKER_00:about what's not okay. And be the one that, like, I have to post this. And I don't think that that's necessarily the full story, but that could be a part of it, I think, where it's just like, just don't show me a lot– I'll have my own story to tell when I want to tell it. I don't want you to tell it for me. I'm not happy with the way you maybe dealt with things. I
SPEAKER_02:hope she does get to tell it if she chooses to at some point. But also it just annoys me because I feel like that guy got off like... That's what I don't like. Because he... See, if he just left and we'd never heard from him again, I'd be like, sure. But did you see his post? No. After he left, he posted being like, I was unwell.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I think I just read this.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Or someone did. I don't know. There was speculation out there that he was unwell. So I'm like.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that he like tore a muscle. He had a torn calf muscle or something maybe. Which I'm like,
SPEAKER_02:but I've seen this show. And when that happens, there's a medic. There's a whole thing. There's
SPEAKER_00:a go back to camp and say goodbye. It's a whole emotional thing that they try to pull.
SPEAKER_02:So I don't know. I feel like they're kind of protecting him a bit. Which I get. There's some like crazy people out there that are going to like, you know, come for him. But I'm like. Is that
SPEAKER_00:so bad? Yeah. To me, I'm just like, you, you were the one that allegedly did this behavior, had this, you know, said these things. Like I was more on the train of the racism. I know there was a big thing about sexual assault and I was like, whoa, that seems. Oh,
SPEAKER_02:I didn't quite get that far in my dig
SPEAKER_00:dive. No, that was like the initial shortly, not shortly after, well, shortly after he left, but when Morgan was still in the game because people were like, They don't follow each other. And then I was like, that seems like a huge jump. But the, yeah, I don't know. I just think that the, the racism thing is like, he did it to himself. Like if that is what happened, then I'm sorry, but why protect it? Like you, you said it. I don't really care if you get up on sort of people. Cause remember,
SPEAKER_02:remember rogue Ruben?
SPEAKER_00:Ruben.
SPEAKER_02:Rogue Ruben on whatever season that was. It was with Nina, Sandra's daughter. Oh, yeah. And she said, I'm more African-American than you. Exactly. And they edited that into the show, which I loved because it just made this woman look so stupid because she was. Nightmare, yeah. And then poor Nina had to, like, she was so good about it. She took it so well. She, like, listened to this idiot and just, like, Shut her mouth. And then she's talked about that later on, like on her own channels and stuff. And it's hilarious. She's just like, I wanted to fucking
SPEAKER_00:slap that bitch. And everyone on social media, like Twitter and everything was on her, like loved it. And they were like, this is crazy. And to be fair, well, not to be fair, but I did see the flip side of that on social media where people were like, Channel 10 shouldn't have aired that or that shouldn't have made them.
SPEAKER_02:So maybe that's why after that experience, Channel 10 were like, let's just not touch anything controversial. This is a show about- you know, winning half a million dollars. And I'm like, no, it's also about social politics. I think the social politics is interesting. Chuck it in there. Also, it's like, why are we so afraid of having this conversation? Like, let's just fucking have it. But to do that, everyone has to, yeah, listen. Yes. And we need to be transparent. We can't have some of the info and not
SPEAKER_00:all of it. Exactly. And it's already, and I get it's already like an issue from seasons past about the lack of diversity in Australian survivors. So... It just– all those things together make it even more icky. But I just think, yeah, the protection of him in any way and also if it's for some kind of, I don't know, defamation thing is what I sort of saw, is that he could sue, yada, yada. You're
SPEAKER_02:right. They just don't want to touch any of it. But it sucks because even right now, like, I feel so awkward having this conversation because we don't know. Yeah, 100%. I don't want to, like, point finger at Tim and be like, you fucking dealt with this. Because I don't actually know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. My thought is– if it's something, regardless of what went on, well, not regardless, but potentially between the two of them, what Channel 10, like maybe protecting themselves from a defamation, like my brain is like, cool, I'm sure you have enough money. It's not, your station's not going to cease to exist if you're brought into a lawsuit for defamation from this man. So just wear the cost. Totally. But, you know, that is only if there's, you know, a... a story there, a situation that's happened, but either way, I feel bad for Morgan. Me too. And we
SPEAKER_02:also, cause if you've been watching the jury villa, it's my new favorite
SPEAKER_00:show. I generally watch it all the time, but I did go to watch hers and then notice. Well, that's the thing. So
SPEAKER_02:she didn't have one. I was like, no,
SPEAKER_00:cause I didn't have the exit thing. Yeah. She didn't even do that.
SPEAKER_02:So she'd like, literally must've been like, nah, I'm done. Yeah. And you could kind of sense she wasn't having a good time. Like even, When AJ was sort of fucking with her last week and she was like, whatever, dude, I can tell you're not going to work with me. See ya. I was like, oh, she's like kind of checked out a bit.
SPEAKER_00:She has. But I also found that interesting that they sort of put that in then because in my mind, if she was checked out early, I don't know. It was like. It just made her look like bad, I think. Because prior to that, she wasn't really in it very much. And she's one of those like, who are you? What's your personality?
SPEAKER_02:They purpled her so hard. And I mean, like... She also wasn't a strong strategic player, though. She wasn't, like, interested in doing big moves and stuff. Sure. Let's be honest. We don't think. I don't know. Well, yeah. But, like, well, that's imagined. There's, like, this other cut of, like, her puppeteering AJ behind the scenes. Yeah, or her and Kate making plans. I think her and Kate were just, like, having a fun time. And it's evident from Kate's Jury Villa. She's just like, oh, like, this is cute.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay. I actually really want to watch Kate's Jury Villa. Yeah, Kate's Jury Villa's great. She's a diva, obsessively. She also
SPEAKER_02:opens up about her OCD and anxiety.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I saw that on her Instagram. So nice. And I love that she slut dropped when she left. That was, I mean, I know we'll get to that, but I was like, I just like stood up, gave a standing ovation. I was like, wow. Do you know, because
SPEAKER_02:you're an F boy island girl. Oh my God. She is one half of the DJ deal with that other girl.
SPEAKER_00:No, Ali was season two.
SPEAKER_02:Sophie? Yeah, Sophie,
SPEAKER_00:the Kiwi. Yes. Love. I realised this and I tried to tell somebody and they were just like, I don't know. And I was like, this is really deep, dumb bitch shit that I
SPEAKER_02:know.
SPEAKER_00:And I was like, why does no one understand? Yes, you've got me.
SPEAKER_02:It's like every hot blonde girl that DJs has to be.
SPEAKER_00:DJ, dancer, performer. They
SPEAKER_02:need to be in like a duo.
SPEAKER_00:And I think she did pretty well. Like even though she wasn't, you know. this crazy mastermind. Like she kind of understood the strategy of the game. She also just didn't wanna leave certain things like her. BFF off anything, which sure, that's the way you want to play. I think she was just like, oh no, I won't be doing anything while Morgan's still here.
SPEAKER_02:True. Except a gorgeous slut drop, which I loved as a, it's like the Miss Vanjie of it all. Like I've got my last minute of camera time and I'm gonna milk
SPEAKER_00:it. And she's like, you know what? No one has done on 10, I don't know, 10 seasons, whatever it is, has done a slut drop as if this is a strip of art. Do you
SPEAKER_02:reckon Miles was like, damn, I was going to do
SPEAKER_00:that? The only other person that I think thought that would have been Miles. Like watching him pole dance on a tree. Was it a tree? Yeah. Or the flag pole. There's been a
SPEAKER_02:few poles in challenges and everyone's always like, hey, Miles.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Just waiting
SPEAKER_02:for you.
SPEAKER_00:Anyway. But yeah, I feel bad for Morgan either way. Yeah, me too. Because I think she got a shitty edit. She
SPEAKER_02:clearly had a shit time no matter what happened. So we're sorry for that, Morgan.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly. And I understand you just being like, keep me to the bare minimum in this show because I don't want to relive it. But then to kind of in those last two episodes make it seem like she was like... And stop casting
SPEAKER_02:douchebag bogans, please. Sure, if they're fun and not racist, great. But if they're racist,
SPEAKER_00:just
SPEAKER_02:don't put
SPEAKER_00:them on. It's not that hard. Or just call it out and get them... Also, you can tell, because apparently, okay, this is getting really deep.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, I think I know where you're going.
SPEAKER_00:About his followers? Yes! Okay, I only just read this, but apparently Ben follows Trump, Pauline Hanson. You have people, I know you have people that go to social media, surely. And in this climate, you can't be going, let's put a Trumpy on there. Fuck no. Are you kidding?
SPEAKER_02:Maybe they thought it would be fun and personalities will clash, but it's like, no, someone's just going to feel... legit victimized
SPEAKER_00:and shit. And I feel like make the personalities clash because of, you know, gameplay or age, even that kind of thing. I feel like specifically that like quite right wing is like not just making people clash because there is a very high chance that that right wing person is going to say some fucked up shit. With these tariffs. With these tariffs. They follow Trump and Paul. Pauline Hanson, you have to be like, I'm sorry, this can't.
SPEAKER_02:I was in a meeting this morning at like 9am and someone as light fodder. Chat before the meeting was like, so what about those tariffs? And I went, girl, not the tariffs at 9am.
SPEAKER_00:Not a meeting at 9am, firstly. True. No meetings at 9.30 as early as. But it was
SPEAKER_02:like, you know, no, how's your night? Oh,
SPEAKER_00:it's going to be 27 today. Lovely. For
SPEAKER_02:the first time in my life, I would have preferred that. But hey, these tariffs, I was like, fuck.
SPEAKER_00:I haven't even had a coffee. I haven't had a
SPEAKER_02:coffee. I'm staring at you on Zoom. Anyway, let's get into Sunday night's episode, which was called House of Cards. Because your house of cards is about to topple. That's all you've got.
SPEAKER_00:That's all you've got is a house of cards. Your deck of cards. Your deck of
SPEAKER_02:cards is about to topple.
SPEAKER_00:Queen Gina.
SPEAKER_02:So good.
SPEAKER_00:You're a celebrant. I always think of that. Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Miles says the postgraduates are rock solid. But also, if it breaks... Yeah. It'll probably be me that breaks it. I love Miles.
SPEAKER_00:Me too. I've liked him pretty much from the start as well. I think he got a bit of a bad...
SPEAKER_02:He's the only likeable game player because AJ's playing the game, but AJ is not likeable.
SPEAKER_00:He... Don't get me started. I mean, we'll get into AJ, I'm sure. But Miles is having fun. His chaos is like not coming across as malicious or anything like that or mean or arrogant. It's just weird. He's just... kooky dude and I love that
SPEAKER_02:exactly AJ and Zara chat and he's like AJ's paranoid if he doesn't win the challenge he's out AJ? I mean we're all thinking no this was AJ I'm pretty sure oh yeah sorry Kaelin sorry you're right I was like AJ's not gonna win the challenge AJ can't even like they get to the challenge and AJ's just like alright
SPEAKER_00:I think maybe you said last week or something um You just love his energy of not caring. And that is, I would say, I would care in challenges if I was ever on it. But I do love that he's just committed to the energy of like, I won't be winning any challenges in this
SPEAKER_02:game. I think it's a move. I think he's going to get to the final, if he does, and his whole speech is going to be like, you guys didn't even know that every challenge I threw, even the individual ones, and they're all going to be like, cool story.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Well, maybe you should.
SPEAKER_02:But no, you're right. They're all gunning for Cailin. Clearly, because this guy... Fucking hell.
SPEAKER_00:So hot. So
SPEAKER_02:hot. That rig.
SPEAKER_00:Just everything.
SPEAKER_02:And the little, he's so cute.
SPEAKER_00:And I'm just, it's absolutely blinding my survivor, like, experience because at the end of the day, he shouldn't, like, if he loses, you should vote him out in a way. But also I do see the strategy of, oh, I could beat him at the end. But my brain is like, I mean, you haven't been particularly...
SPEAKER_02:If it's a final two though, and it's him and AJ, like if I'm on that jury, I'm voting for puppy dog.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_02:Like he's got a chance.
SPEAKER_00:And he's like, his strategy hasn't been, okay, so strong like AJ, but he has had strategy. Like he could have and probably should have as he's showing. His strategy was
SPEAKER_01:be a cutie.
SPEAKER_00:Be a cutie, middle ground, look a bit, seem to be dumb and just helping everybody out and like... Then he just wins six individual immunities. Like, that's incredible. I'm
SPEAKER_02:more impressed by that than AJ, like, messily, like, calling the shots, even though he's, like, kind of not, I don't
SPEAKER_00:know. Yeah, yeah, fair. But I get that being, like... you could just vote him out as soon as he doesn't win. But my brain's like, don't do it. He's nice to look
SPEAKER_02:at. Yeah. Morgan and Miles chat, maybe we want similar things. Morgan asks about Caelan and what happens if he doesn't win the next community. So it's really just all eyes on Caelan and then we'll decide what happens. Miles also confirms this idea with Zara. How do you feel about Zara? The PTA.
SPEAKER_00:I just... Look, I'll say I'm obsessed with the fact that she's not president, but she's vice president of the PTA. That is great. I am obsessed with that. It's a good detail. Beyond that, I just... I'm not... I don't have strong thoughts. My only thought right now is... She does do what I think are some dumb moves that are not bold.
SPEAKER_02:She's got a good poker face. Because I never know what's going to happen. Yeah, true. Because people are always trying to pull her one way or another. And her face is always just like... That's true. I'm like, I have no idea.
SPEAKER_00:That's the PTA. And there's been two votes. The two votes I feel like this week, I thought that she could do something. And then she didn't. And I'm like, well, this is dumb. So, I don't know. Her vibe is that if I was there, I would... take her to the end because she's got people on the jury, I guess, but I don't know. She's just neither here nor there for me.
SPEAKER_02:Fair. I think so. She's just kind of there. She's there. At the immunity challenge, it's balls. And if Kaelin wins this one, he's going to break a record. And I love he's like, yeah, everyone. So if you want me to break the record, you better just
SPEAKER_00:chill. Oh, you better just let me win. My dumb bitch ass would be like, okay.
SPEAKER_02:Same. Whatever you want, Kaelin. And then he does it. What a sexy little fish boy. The
SPEAKER_00:last part of that challenge, pushing that up, would have been actually so hard. All of it. The
SPEAKER_02:challenges have been real good this
SPEAKER_00:season. Yeah, they've mixed it up and it's not been your standard. Just this, this and this.
SPEAKER_02:And then they act all excited, but I'm like... Then he says he's a challenge enthusiast.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah. Rather than a challenge beast. And I was like... Baby girl. Baby girl.
SPEAKER_02:Back at camp, AJ suspects Miles wants to take Morgan to the end. So wants to take her out. I was like, okay.
SPEAKER_00:Which, sure.
SPEAKER_02:Because Miles is... thinking a hundred like steps ahead. Oh, absolutely. A hundred different ideas a minute. And it is, yeah, it would be kind of annoying to be around.
SPEAKER_00:It would, but also, I don't know how much he would be, besides AJ, who also thinks that way, how much he would be talking all those little things to people. You just know that it's happening in his brain. But also at this point, you should be. Like even Zara, to be fair, like she's been like, this is my path to the end. And I'm like, I mean, babe, you're not going to win. Imagine she,
SPEAKER_02:anyway. If Zara wins, I will actually love it.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know how I
SPEAKER_02:feel. But also be like, editors, what story did you just tell? I
SPEAKER_00:just, yeah, she's not getting that like winner's edit, is she? She's getting a potential final three though.
SPEAKER_02:I think it's Kaylin or Miles. They're the only people getting winner edit. If it's AJ, I'll be really shocked because they've not done anything to make us like him. In fact, they've actively trolled him.
SPEAKER_00:Have they? Or is that just his personality?
SPEAKER_02:Do you really think they've like tried to make us like him? They would have cut out all that. Awkward Kate stuff, I reckon. I think they... Exactly. Exactly. I think they put that in because they want us to be like, well, this guy's a bit of a creep.
SPEAKER_00:I think maybe they... I don't know. I think you're right. But they could also have been like, people might... find this awkward and endearing. Like, I didn't. Because Kate's reaction was pretty chill. Actually,
SPEAKER_02:you're right. There are some AJ stans out there. Every now and then I'll have a guest on the pod and they're like, AJ's great. And I'm like...
SPEAKER_00:It couldn't be me.
SPEAKER_02:But,
SPEAKER_00:you know.
SPEAKER_02:He's
SPEAKER_00:got this, like, you know, level of... If there's anything I hate more than just a straight-up arrogant kind of white man that... A poker player? Yeah, that's not... fun about it that's not um kind of creating a character like i'm like oh that's just you unfortunately
SPEAKER_02:Kaylin and Zara want Kate, but AJ still has a stiffy for her. So he wants Morgan out. He does. Like he acts like he's got this strategy. He's like, oh, actually I want to take out Morgan first. I'm like, oh, how convenient. Cause you think Kate's got beautiful
SPEAKER_00:eyes. Yeah. You're like, it's yeah. And you try so hard to be like, exactly. That's why he wants Kate out or whatever. And I'm like, well, I think he just, everyone sees that relationship. Like Zara wasn't stupid then.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. AJ tells Kate this plan and she cries. This was, I was like, she's like, I can't do it. I can't vote out Morgan. I'm not going to do it. It was beautiful television. It
SPEAKER_00:was great. But also that's where you were like. When she sort of said, oh, I'm surprised I got this far. I was like, with that kind of game... I mean, you have to have your... I get you have to have your strong alliance, but, you know.
SPEAKER_02:And his full just, like, lack of empathy. Like, he's like, chat GPT brain kicks in. He's just like, oh, um... Yep. Okay. It was like someone standing next to a random crying being like, I don't know what to
SPEAKER_00:do. Didn't know what to do. That was so uncomfortable.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. He's like, we'll do whatever you're comfortable with. But if you... want to stay in the game you're gonna have
SPEAKER_00:to vote more but whatever makes you comfortable bye yeah see ya
SPEAKER_02:it's gonna leave that there with
SPEAKER_00:you oh gosh
SPEAKER_02:imagine being in this game and like you're like a Kate or a Morgan and just like people just kind of come up to you and be like this is what you have to do that would like
SPEAKER_00:you just
SPEAKER_02:I would hate
SPEAKER_00:that same and I just feel like no that's okay earlier in the game yeah you know when
SPEAKER_02:there's a hundred people
SPEAKER_00:and there's great it's that's very that's why Kaylin's strategy and other people just like yeah yeah yeah because you just you don't want to be the one making plans you know you want to kind of be involved but like not really yeah because you don't want that target on your back but like to be in what final six are they final seven or six there's five left now five now at this
SPEAKER_02:point there's six
SPEAKER_00:yeah so to be a final six and still having people being like this is what we're doing this is what you're doing you'd be like okay
SPEAKER_02:if you're a yes girl at this point yeah your chances aren't looking
SPEAKER_00:good yeah or it is because they could take you all the way to the
SPEAKER_02:end but then your cv is just like
SPEAKER_00:non-existent
SPEAKER_02:AJ tries to turn Kaylin against Miles, but he's kind of like, this is, I do like the boys all kind of imploding on each other. This is good. This is like an interesting dynamic. But it's so dodged. I'm like, how does anyone listen to this guy? Also the double standard here is crazy. Like AJ's gone and done that behind Miles's back. But then later on when he finds out, Not Miles is doing it against him. He like loses it. I'm like, bitch.
SPEAKER_00:That's it's just, it's his, his ego is so, I, and you can tell like, yeah, he's like, I'm running everything, everything, all roads lead back to me. Like that to me is what makes me like, just truly not like him because you just have no, you just have such a big ego that you think that that is true. And therefore you, I just, the way he thinks that Miles is like, well, you know, I could, Miles is the only person that might be able to be, I'm like, Absolutely he would be. I would vote for Miles over AJ if I was on the jury. Yeah. Like the dude was on the bottom for... Fucking just so long.
SPEAKER_02:He served looks. He served fashions.
SPEAKER_00:He's just been...
SPEAKER_02:He's been a fun time.
SPEAKER_00:Fun, chaos. He didn't
SPEAKER_02:skis on anyone inappropriately.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, exactly. Like, I don't know. I just think that AJ's double standards are just so egocentric. That
SPEAKER_02:line he says this week where he's like, I'm just never getting votes and I'm never going home. I was like, oh...
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Excuse you. Never getting votes on the jury either. Yeah,
SPEAKER_02:totally. Is that what you mean? Oh, my God. Miles tells Kate he's bummed Kaylin won immunity again. I'm like, yeah, we know. And Kate's still like, I'm not voting Morgan. I can't do it. She's my girl. Can't do it. So, the girls finally mobilize or like kind of. I was excited at this point. I was like, they're going to do it. I was like, they're doing something. It's day 105 and they're like, let's do a plan. They're like, there's two of us. They kind of start to realize like, oh, there's two of us. Zara's there. If we get her on.
SPEAKER_00:Get her to flip some shit. They're like,
SPEAKER_02:let's get Miles out. They think Zara won't, but then they're going to try Kaylin. Because they've heard that he wants to make a big move for
SPEAKER_00:Resume. And that he's really anxious about. If he loses an immunity, which he should
SPEAKER_02:be. Yeah. Kate tells Cailin that Miles is after him and that they have to get rid of him now, which was clever because that is a good way to mobilize someone to join you.
SPEAKER_00:Especially Cailin, who was already like...
SPEAKER_02:And Cailin's got that old school Aussie survivor thing of like loyalty. He said, I can get to the end being a good guy, which was like, okay.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I don't like any... Or people being like, oh, I just– it's integrity that I need and things. Yes, mateship. Okay, it's also a game. Like, you can be a fucking– Have fun. Yeah. Like, don't be an asshole.
SPEAKER_02:You're all going to giggle at Drew Villa afterwards. Exactly. Like, come on. But, yeah, Kate tells Caelan that Miles is after him. So, it's kind of like game on, Miles. Clever. He does– buy it. And I mean, it is true. Yeah. But AJ wants him out. Like, they all want him out. Yeah. It's not specific to Miles. Yeah. But clever to package it in that way to get
SPEAKER_00:him to flip. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. But, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. At Tribal. holey stuns in victoria beckham's little gucci dress
SPEAKER_00:all of them entering like i just love the direction that's like you must be so pissed off regardless of what your feelings are i think
SPEAKER_02:it's them i don't think i think production like what are you guys doing and they
SPEAKER_00:were like i feel like it's extra this season though right yeah but like sometimes i
SPEAKER_02:think they came up with it like do you know what it's giving it's giving like school camp And the girls are like, let's come up with a dance routine.
SPEAKER_00:Performing at the talent show.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I've got some scrunchies. Let's all do crazy hairdos. crazy makeup
SPEAKER_00:and we'll do a dance. And he can't smile because we're sexy or something like that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. They're bored at Drew Villa just being like, let's come up with a fun thing.
SPEAKER_00:And I feel like it's a very US Survivor thing to walk in sort of straight faced, serious. A bit slutty, a bit angry. Whereas in the past, Australian Survivor has been really like, because they come in and everyone's always like, woo! So they come in and they're like smiling. And so it seems really... It's all Pauly. Yeah, I feel like he went there and was like, you know what?
SPEAKER_02:He's like, girls... I'm
SPEAKER_00:pissed. Stone faces. I want looks of up and down and then, you know, it's kind of hard to. This
SPEAKER_02:is why we need Sydney guys on every reality show. Yeah, true. To bring the chaos. To bring,
SPEAKER_00:yeah.
SPEAKER_02:What were your thoughts when JLP said on day 105, and tonight's a little bit different, I was like, girl, I actually paused it and screamed.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I
SPEAKER_00:thought it wasn't on a limb. It's because it was so much longer of the episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, what's this fucking nonsense happening now? He's
SPEAKER_02:like, we're starting again with three tribes. No. But then straight away he knows that we're all screaming at home and he goes, settle down. Someone is going home. And I was
SPEAKER_00:like, oh, thank God. Yeah, I'm glad he did that too.
SPEAKER_02:Send people home. Then he's like, but there'll be another chance for... Okay, so it's literally just another immunity challenge.
SPEAKER_00:Which I was like, okay, that's fine in the end because that could have shaken something up, I guess. But yeah, when he first said that. And I had been thinking prior to that that there hadn't been as many of those little meddlings this season. Yeah, they try
SPEAKER_02:and pull it back.
SPEAKER_00:I think because they see online that every other tribal being like, this is different, there's no vote. There were still a few of them, but I think they pulled that back. So when they started to do that, I was like, oh no, this is why they've been holding it back. They're doing something fucking dumb.
SPEAKER_02:It was fine. It actually wasn't that much drama. I almost thought it could have been more. disruptive i don't know how but another immunity great whatever and with kaylin always winning it was actually a clever thing to add yeah like let's give someone else
SPEAKER_00:a chance yeah and you know they were like let's hopefully make it you know probably a kate or a morgan like fuss making
SPEAKER_02:they even joked they're like maybe kaylin's gonna win too next
SPEAKER_00:yeah
SPEAKER_02:but she wasn't eligible um So the five vulnerable players then participate in another challenge and it's the deck of cards that are about to topple.
SPEAKER_00:The deck of
SPEAKER_02:cards. Yes.
SPEAKER_00:That looked hard as hell. It did.
SPEAKER_02:It looked really annoying. These ones where it's just like you have to be really patient and like balance stuff. I would try it once and then be like,
SPEAKER_00:all right. Oh, I just find it. That particular one. it's the balancing of like because the how the cards itself would be hard like the other ones where you're stacking a tower that's not as hard that is just like balance but this one is like that's hard without the holding a thing and making sure it doesn't fall over nonsense exactly
SPEAKER_02:and djk takes it out diva diva so good aj stoked because it's what he wants he now gets to keep He's a pretty blue-eyed girl in the game. Yeah, his little crush. Exactly. Then some intense whispering begins between Zara and Kate. Kate is trying to get Zara to flip to Miles. Loved this. This is when Zara was giving full poker face. She's like, yep, cool. She's
SPEAKER_00:like, I'm willing to do that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, exactly. I love it. I'm willing to do that. It's like, that's not a yes.
SPEAKER_00:It's not a yes, but I would be there being like, oh, that wasn't. Yeah, you're right. Her face is very like, I was like, does she mean that or not?
SPEAKER_02:She was like, suits me. And then how good was this edit? They show us her vote and she just writes down an
SPEAKER_00:M.
SPEAKER_02:The producers would have been like, how good? You
SPEAKER_00:just know when there's something like that and they have the same letter that the producers froth of being able to be like, we can show the first letter until, unless it's like cursive or something. And a little curl, yeah. Yeah, and they're like, was that going to be an O or a Y? Exactly. So
SPEAKER_02:good. And then the votes are read and it's two Miles and two Morgan. But then more Morgans come in and she gone. She's out. And there's zero fanfare. She literally just gets up and V lines for the exit.
SPEAKER_00:She's on that next flight. She's like, or maybe in another hotel, according to the Reddit, but who knows?
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah. So she didn't want to stay. At the villa with everyone.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but I don't know if they can just send you straight home. So maybe they were just like, okay, you can go to a hotel for a few nights because they do a bit of a health thing, I'm guessing. Yeah. And then sent it, potentially, according to Reddit, allegedly.
SPEAKER_02:Not
SPEAKER_00:good. No.
SPEAKER_02:But, I mean, it's all alleged, but I'm inclined to believe it because we've been given nothing else
SPEAKER_00:to go on. And something's gone on. There'd be nothing, surely, in a contract that's like, oh, I just didn't like the game. Can you just edit me out? Like there has to be a catalyst, I think, as to why. I
SPEAKER_02:hope the fans are being nice to her because I can imagine if you literally did not know anything and you only were just looking at the show, nothing else, you'd be like, oh, what a diva. Like I would think that. Yeah, true. I'd be like, what a bad sport. She's upset she didn't win or whatever. And she didn't put anything on Instagram. She's kicked the bucket, yeah. And she's just left. I don't know. I think she just didn't have a good experience because I know– I saw a few weeks ago King George tweeted saying– friend of the book, King George– saying her and Kate were boring players, which I think– and, you know, George is trying to be a little bit incendiary, a little bit, like, exciting. Like, it's clickbait. We get it, George. But she snapped back. She was like, nah, I'm not letting this guy– Oh, good on her. She tweeted back at him being, or instead of whatever, back at him being like, you have no idea what I went through. And that was when I was like, oh, shit went down. Okay, yeah, it's something, right.
SPEAKER_00:And also, you know, I get the... And he's not to know.
SPEAKER_02:Like, we don't know. So, it's like...
SPEAKER_00:True.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It's just, yeah, I don't know. Wait, did he do that before she left? Yeah,
SPEAKER_02:yeah. Like a few weeks ago. Oh, okay. Yeah. It was when they were just kind of there being, sitting ducks. And I had the same opinion. I was like, she's
SPEAKER_00:boring. And look, that's no different to, you know, what I would put on Blue Sky. But I just thought maybe that happened after she left. And I was like, okay, well, that's a bit much, George. But yeah, I'm always just like, what is this person doing in terms of their gameplay? He's
SPEAKER_02:always just trying to stir
SPEAKER_00:shit. But she's like pregnant. Oh, is she? Stunning. Because I did obviously go on her, but she hadn't posted since like late march and she's not posted a single thing about survivor so
SPEAKER_02:and look fair i think it's one of those things that yeah unfortunately didn't work out
SPEAKER_00:and she had a bad experience but at least she's hopefully home and just living her best yeah pregnant with twins we wish you well yeah twins believe it's twins yeah wow two that's a lot One's enough. One's great. Love one. Love one. Love one. Love one. But yeah, that I was like, let me go watch the Jury Villa. Let me find out a little bit more about potential. I think at that stage I was also just like, I want to find out about her gameplay a little bit more, like because we didn't find anything or like if I go to the Jury Villa and it's just her being like, oh yeah, you know, I would have been like, okay, that was just, so when all that happened, that's when it really stirred it up. But I feel... Bad for her, but really glad that, I guess.
SPEAKER_02:I like she didn't give them anything. She's like, nah. Because
SPEAKER_00:it's like, I
SPEAKER_02:would do the same. It's like, I'm not going to just continue to do
SPEAKER_00:this. Yes, exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Episode 22 on Monday night. I've got to say, I'm loving just two a week. Can we just do that? Oh, thank God. Two is great.
SPEAKER_00:It's so stressful early in the season when it's three.
SPEAKER_02:It's so much,
SPEAKER_00:TV. Especially when, like, White Lotus started. Because then I couldn't watch the Tuesday night because I'd watched the White Lotus on Monday. And then, so then I'd be behind two episodes because I'd have to watch, like, Monday nights. It was just too much. Too, too much. And, yeah, I'm glad. Two is fabulous. Two is great, actually, because.
SPEAKER_02:One would leave us wanting more.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and there's 500 episodes. We'd be going for the whole year. It's
SPEAKER_02:called Polarising the Outcome and it's the final five. So that means it's the last time an idol can be played. which is kind of the theme of the episode. So Zara is thinking about her best path, as is Miles.
SPEAKER_00:She says.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, she's doing a lot of thinking.
SPEAKER_00:Doing a lot of thinking of her best path and then ignoring it, but go off,
SPEAKER_02:go off, queen. Exactly. And Miles pitches AJ should be next. And she was like, oh, I'm actually quite shocked at that. And at this point, I'm like, well, there's only, you only have four choices. Literally. Someone to get rid of. So I don't think any pitch is shocking at this point. You should all be thinking about taking out everyone else
SPEAKER_00:except yourself. Literally. And if somebody else suggests someone who's a big threat... Even better.
SPEAKER_02:You're
SPEAKER_00:probably thinking about it. Yeah. So just go, that sounds great. And then you can just kind of be on the periphery of it.
SPEAKER_02:I've got to say like gameplay wise, first half of this game was so exciting. And then it just, yeah, I'm still loving all the characters and everything, but strategy wise, it has been a bit meh.
SPEAKER_00:I think it's because there have been so many opportunities for something to flip the game a little bit. And it just hasn't progressed because the person's maybe chickened out or been like... And the jury was stacked with
SPEAKER_02:all of the fun
SPEAKER_00:people. Oh, like Karin?
SPEAKER_02:Karin's on the jury. Logan. Logan. Yeah. Like literally.
SPEAKER_00:Although I was getting a bit over Laura at the end. Sure. Yeah. Just to do with the, when we were talking about like the loyalty and the integrity or whatever. Not that she was saying that, but it was just very much like, she was just starting to get a bit sourpuss when she was like, this person didn't want to vote the way I did. I was like, okay. She fucked it for herself. Which sucks. Cause at the start I was like, love you queen. And then. Oh, hang
SPEAKER_02:on.
SPEAKER_00:She
SPEAKER_02:wrote Logan. No,
SPEAKER_00:Laura.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, no, Laura. The witch. Yeah, the witch. Yeah, good. No, because Logan also did the whole why is no one doing what I want thing, which I loved.
SPEAKER_00:It was a bit different from her, though. Yeah. I don't know. She was like that kind of from the start and she was really like– was actually– doing other people's plans and trying things. Whereas Laura just was like, if anyone in Alliance, like I think Zara or people that would just would say, oh, you know, I don't want to do that. She was like, well, that just pisses me off and ruins my game. And I'm like, well, they're also trying to play a game, dude. But they
SPEAKER_02:were all the people I wanted to last.
SPEAKER_00:They'll be great on the jury. They will be great on the jury. But like Karin and Logan, as I was always on the fence about Logan, but just found her super entertaining. Karin is everything.
SPEAKER_02:Love Karin. She's so funny. I
SPEAKER_00:reckon she'll
SPEAKER_02:be. She'll be invited. Yeah, she will be. She'll be invited back. With those confessionals and that side eye, honey.
SPEAKER_00:And just great strategy, pretty good physical. Like, she was quite an all-rounder. Oh, she's a beast. She's so, oh, yeah. And, like, I think that Logan, I was, yeah, never, didn't, wasn't necessarily a fan. I didn't dislike her. But I just, I found her personality so entertaining. Yes. And she is also somebody they would put. On to another season, I think, because she just had such a... She's got, like, Shawnee
SPEAKER_02:vibes.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, and I love... Silly girly. Silly
SPEAKER_02:girly, yeah. But that's who I was expecting and wanted on the actual, like, game. Yeah, yeah. I wanted Miles there. Miles is the one that I have been so excited about for so long. I'm so glad he's still there. And I'm obviously rooting for him to win now. But,
SPEAKER_00:yeah, a couple more of those other players, yeah, would have also been great. I agree. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's a funny one. And I'm very much looking forward to next week finding out who it is. But back to, gosh, where were we? Miles pitching again to Kaelin. Oh no, now he's saying if AJ doesn't win immunity, we should send AJ home. So this is the bit, this is the big stab in the back moment that I'm like, again, it's not really stabbing in the back when there's five people left.
SPEAKER_00:Like, come on. It would happen to you if you don't do it first. Exactly. And
SPEAKER_02:you've also suggested the same thing for some time. Miles has been like, On the bottom forever. Yeah. So, I kind of think it's a bit rich to be pissed off, but
SPEAKER_00:whatever. Also, I just think that... I don't know. I feel... And maybe this is because I've not been on it, but if you were voted out because of that kind of backstabbing nature... Yeah. A, literally take it like the compliment that it is. Yeah, yeah. Like, I couldn't beat you. But B, like... I don't know. I, as a jury member might be like, I respect that game. Like, obviously I'm pissed off that you did it, but you know what? If you didn't do it to me, I would have done it to you and well done. You did it first.
SPEAKER_02:But he's even, cause this is also. AJ tells us about a hundred times in this episode that Cailin is his ride or die. Like we get it. And he's not even into the idea of taking out Cailin. Cause he, I think he thinks that in his, in the end, he's going to be there next to Cailin. Who's never going to win. Cause he didn't do strategy. I don't know, dude. I think he would get votes. I think you'd get votes. I think you'd want to be next to Kate and Zara.
SPEAKER_00:He definitely should be taking Zara. Any of them.
SPEAKER_02:The jury really likes Kate and they might just.
SPEAKER_00:I actually thought that, Kate would have maybe she wouldn't have won but if she well I don't know her
SPEAKER_02:jury villa entrance they go wild they love her
SPEAKER_00:I just and I also think the last remaining brawn she was another example of being on the like say she got to the final yeah she would have only been there from the bottom the whole time which is just you play hardest when you needed to, which I would have been like, you get my vote for that. But AJ, you know, the plan to take out AJ, because AJ also constantly says this episode, you know, oh, Miles is not going to turn on me. Not once. No, he's not going to turn on me. Yeah,
SPEAKER_02:which I'm like, that's dumb. He's thinking about every possible move except that. So don't rule anything out. He's also worried that Miles is going to do some idol trickery, which is going to do something. He's like, Miles is going to do some silly move with his idol. And this was, am I correct? thinking that miles didn't oh no miles told aj about this idol no only aj knows only aj but like everyone it's a bad kept secret everyone knows everyone's just like i'm they're like miles yeah because he's always so
SPEAKER_00:sneaky the jungle rat and also why would you not have tried to flush it but anyway that's another story for another true
SPEAKER_02:true true because if you don't know if they
SPEAKER_00:don't know but also this proves my point of like they really don't know how some of them, how intensely strategic. He just seems like a chaos player. This
SPEAKER_02:is where AJ's on his condescending bullshit again. He's like, I'm never getting votes. I'm never going home. And he also says, I think Miles has played a much smaller version of my game, which I don't agree
SPEAKER_00:with, honey. I don't agree at
SPEAKER_02:all. I was like, what are you talking about?
SPEAKER_00:And I think that if you think that, arrogance aside, it's because Miles has done a lot more than you even know. So seeing those two at a final tribal with AJ, obviously probably going to have a good speech because he's very good at Working his
SPEAKER_02:ass off.
SPEAKER_00:But I think that he absolutely is underestimating the way Miles would actually destroy him in a final tribal council.
SPEAKER_02:And then, this is the irony, like, Kaelin and AJ are now discussing putting votes on Miles as an insurance policy. And I'm like, okay, so that's fine. That's fair game. But, like, God forbid your name be
SPEAKER_01:mentioned. I'm like, okay, honey. So dumb.
SPEAKER_02:Right or die, right or die. I forgot about that. Immunity Challenge, it's more balancing things. I'm like, okay, we're really in a place of balance this
SPEAKER_00:week. This is when they walk through the squares? Yeah, for blocks. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And it wasn't like five blocks or six blocks. It was like 12. It was like 12 blocks. And it was like... Very tall. And you had this kind of like fucked hook.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It looked tedious.
SPEAKER_00:Just the way that you had to bend it. And then also not even just the like squares that you walked through. My little finger hands. I'm
SPEAKER_02:surprised it wasn't another IKEA tie-in. Because it looked like a little Allen key.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, like using, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Using the flubbenblaggen.
SPEAKER_00:That, yeah, the unhooking that. And then also the like... the pole that you had to duck under was just another level of, there was just so many elements of that, that yeah, it would have been really trying. I also kind of wish they would put at the bottom, at the end of the challenge, like it just didn't, this is my curiosity, like how long it actually took.
SPEAKER_02:I would like that.
SPEAKER_00:If it just like, I know you're going to give me a fucking three minute cut. That's fine. But just be like duration of challenge, like two and a half hours.
SPEAKER_02:I think they all are pretty long. They must be. That one. These ones are so tedious because it's like someone's going to win and then, oh, it's all toppled and I can start again. It's like, oh.
SPEAKER_00:And yeah, it would take so long. Really annoying
SPEAKER_02:to recap because I'm just like, not that I've spent any time on the challenges, let's be honest, but this one I was like, I kept writing down like, Morgan's in the lead and I was like, delete that. Zara's in the lead, delete that. But AJ again, no chance. Sucks at this as well.
SPEAKER_00:No surprise. No surprises there.
SPEAKER_02:And then finally it is between Zara and Miles, but Miles cooks it on the 12th block, which is like,
SPEAKER_00:oh. The way he was so, like, obviously pissed off. Yeah. The way I would have just walked into the, like, on the 12th block. Are you kidding me? I would have gone up to JLP and
SPEAKER_02:just slapped him in the face.
SPEAKER_00:I just would have walked straight past him and been like...
SPEAKER_02:don't goodbye
SPEAKER_00:into the forest into the jungle like honestly the the 12th like if it happens earlier okay sure that last block last
SPEAKER_02:block i wouldn't do it again i would not do it again i wouldn't even pretend
SPEAKER_00:i would literally just go sit down i'd be like there's no i'm not yeah i won't be doing i won't be participating yeah give me some water medic please like ah yeah
SPEAKER_02:sprained i would fake an injury
SPEAKER_00:yeah give me some eyes my gay wrist yeah
SPEAKER_02:limp um and they'd be like it Seems like it's always like that. I don't know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_00:How
SPEAKER_01:dare you. How
SPEAKER_02:dare you. Back at camp. Zara and Miles discuss plans to blindside AJ. And I was getting so hard for that.
SPEAKER_00:I was like, do it! Do it! So excited. And the way it was happening, the editing, like, this is really the producers, well done to you for blindsiding me. But it was very like, then cutting back to AJ and AJ being like, oh, Miles is not going to go for me. He's not going to go for me. And then cutting back to this plan, I was like, this is giving... Like it's going to happen.
SPEAKER_02:I thought it was going to happen. They really teased us with that. Kaelin sets a rat trap because he's certain that Miles is coming to snatch his wig. So he is going to play... Oh, what's he doing? He thinks the idol is going to get played. So, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, the insurance policy is Miles versus the Kate thing, which honestly, smart plan if that was the case. Like, well done you, Kaelin, being like, no... That way, either way, somebody we want goes home and it's not me if he plays the idol in some funny way.
SPEAKER_02:Kate tells AJ she's voting for Miles. AJ's like, great, well then he's going to go. Because they think he's going to play it. But it's the final five. There's five people left. Why would anyone play
SPEAKER_00:it for another
SPEAKER_02:person? I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_00:I get it. This was a few votes earlier because Miles has been really good and he can play it for other people. But there's just simply no way at that point, even if it was somebody that you knew, like they were all going on your one person, I would still be like, I will be playing this for me because I don't
SPEAKER_02:know. But I think they thought... Because he loves... the showmanship of it all, that he was going to do something that looked really complex, but I still don't think
SPEAKER_00:anyone's that dumb. And that it would have been a good, you know, oh, that's another little thing for his resume, like what he did, I guess. But again, he's smarter than that because he was, he could have done anything like that. But
SPEAKER_02:you're not going to risk it. Like he's done some risky stuff to this point, but like now's not the time for that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. It's one week before the finale. And if he was really unsure about the AJ thing, then he could have done it on Kate to help his trying to blindside. But he's like, yeah, he's
SPEAKER_02:smart. And then Zara figures out that with everyone voting for someone else, her vote could be the decider. She can bloody well pick who's going home. It could have been. I mean, it was. AJ sits miles down and he's so patronising. He's like, look, I know you're you. When he said, I know you're you, I'm like, fuck
SPEAKER_00:off. Yeah. The arrogance is unmatched. I can't. He just thinks, anyway.
SPEAKER_02:He goes, can you please just play her out for you so it's simple? Like, if someone asked me to do that, I'd almost want to not do
SPEAKER_00:it. Especially if AJ asked me to do that. But that's what
SPEAKER_02:he was trying to do, right? Or something. Like, was it a bit of reverse psychology or something? Like, you just do that for me so I know what you're doing. I don't know. And then Miles gets emotional. And this is when I was like, we need to edit. Cause it was like, we haven't really seen this sort of shade from Miles before. So it was like, cause he's always being silly. And then it was like, he got emotional. Cause he's like, I don't want to have to backstab someone, but also. I
SPEAKER_00:have to, to win. Yeah. And yeah. And that I understand that sure. In this particular point of the game, that would be pretty difficult. You know, we saw that in terms of like Kate and Morgan, but yeah. I don't know. I just... You just have to be like, okay, well, it'll be all... Like, it'll be worth it when I have... half a mil in the bank
SPEAKER_02:so yeah I just don't know if I've seen a genuine friendship between Miles and AJ I know they're like working together I agree it feels gamey it doesn't feel like it's not like Kate Morgan or like I don't know yeah
SPEAKER_00:Paulie
SPEAKER_02:and Nunes like where you're like these are like iconic duos and they're gonna be friends outside yeah well it looks like from socials that they are or something but I don't know
SPEAKER_00:but I know what you mean they haven't really had that bonding or they at least they haven't showed that level of bonding So I
SPEAKER_02:was shocked when Miles got emotional, but I think it's bigger than just that. I think he's just like, wow, this was my dream. I'm here. Yeah, absolutely. I think he underestimated the social side
SPEAKER_00:of it. And he's doing so well. I know.
SPEAKER_02:But then he's like taking out AJ's possibly 500k.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely, man.
SPEAKER_02:At Tribal. This is the bit when JLP has to awkwardly address that Morgan is no longer with us because she, quote, decided to go home.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, and then it's just... So, bloody... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I guess, how else can you do it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're not allowed to say anything, but...
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. They must get briefed off camera, right, so they don't... audibly gasp and stuff.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Cause they didn't really. They would have
SPEAKER_02:been told like, we're going to say that. Don't you dare.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Which also gives, you know, the impression that it was a, a situation that quite a few people knew about. Yeah. Versus it just being somebody that decided to go home. Cause then they might've just been like, Oh, well, you know, they could have lied and been like, you know, she had to get back to her family or something. Yeah.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:JLP asks about resumes and pathways. It's all, it's sounding like some sort of career counsellor. Yeah. Now it's just a pathway.
SPEAKER_00:Or just one of those, what are they called? Those companies that like, the recruiters. Recruitment. Yeah. It's like a
SPEAKER_02:recruitment
SPEAKER_00:office. What are the sort of pathways you're looking at?
SPEAKER_02:Can I interest you in this pathway?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:We'll need to see your
SPEAKER_00:resume. Let's see what's on the resume. That pathway is not going to work for you. Yeah. Totally that.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That'll be next season. I'm like, as a recruiter, I've got the perfect skills in resume building.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that'll be in somebody's speech. Like, just call me a recruiter. What was
SPEAKER_02:Ferris, who worked in HR? Oh, he did too. I remember every now and then he'd be like, this is a HR conversation. And I was like, actually true, because you're really good at just like bullshitting people. Literally, which is what
SPEAKER_00:HR does.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:oh, Miles says the numbers are about to get awkward. And I was like, yes, there's five of you left. But particularly with the four that have voted together, the so-called postgrads. He
SPEAKER_00:had a good poker face in this travel as well.
SPEAKER_02:He did a great job because you could tell he's so tempted to be like,
SPEAKER_00:oh, I'm going to do a big move, JLP. I'm going to do
SPEAKER_02:it. But he's just like, no.
SPEAKER_00:After this, the numbers will be awkward. I'm like, well done.
SPEAKER_02:He's like, this vote's really straightforward. But next week, yeah. But no, no.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, fuck, next week's going to be good because AJ's on one. Oh, it's going to be so good. We see them all vote. Fuck, I want Miles to win. Anyway, next. We see them all vote except Zara's so-called deciding vote because, yeah, so Miles votes AJ, which throws that off. Kaelin votes for Miles. AJ votes for Kate.
SPEAKER_00:Kate votes for Kaelin. No,
SPEAKER_02:yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because it's one vote each, right? Yeah. It's like 1-1-1-1. It's 1-1-1-1, yeah. Which is wild.
SPEAKER_02:It's like a square. Final
SPEAKER_00:five? That is insane. So crazy.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, weird.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Then Miles, but it says a lot about This season. Yeah. And just kind of how the strategy has been going. True. Miles plays the idol for himself. I was like, good girl. Clever girl. And sadly, with a slut drop on the torch first, DJ Kate. It was worth it for the slut drop. And it's like, Zara, really? Are you so whole bent on just doing the predictable thing? I, like,
SPEAKER_00:really hate her. I was actually really pissed off. I was like, that's a dumb move. Like, I just– like, I don't think you have a great chance of winning anyway. Why would you want AJ around? Voting AJ off would have been a little something more to make your resume a bit better. A little. Like, she's– and also just putting yourself in a situation– I mean, I think in any situation, like putting yourself in a situation where you are now three males to one female, like at the very least going in, you could have been two, two. Yeah, Kate's your like...
SPEAKER_02:I just can't believe they all forgot about the Kaylin thing.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Like
SPEAKER_00:what? Outrageous. And I think that even if Kate is your biggest competitor for endurance, sure. Because we all
SPEAKER_02:know that's going to be the last one,
SPEAKER_00:right? It always is. But even like leading up to that, I guess you've got... kate who literally has no one and nothing you would expect her to throw you a bone if you saved her and brought her to the fight because you have to be like we have to be a girl's first guys thing now number one and also number two like even if she could beat you i don't know i just feel like you probably yeah have still votes on the jury not anymore but i don't know
SPEAKER_02:and then how awkward aj turns to miles because hang on who did you go miles was like Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You. With a smile. You. Yeah, you.
SPEAKER_02:And I was just like, what? Why? So awkward.
SPEAKER_00:It was so awkward. But also Miles was like a little chaotic face being like, wasn't that fun? Because also you would just be like, you just know his heart would have sank because you'd just be like, you've ruined your own game.
SPEAKER_02:And then JLP clearly is like, next week's going to be awkward. And I'm like, thank you.
SPEAKER_00:And Kaylin's like, ooh, a little snake or something. This
SPEAKER_02:is the double standard. It's like, ooh, what a rat. From the start, they've been like, what a little rat. What a little backstabber. And I'm like, no, no, no. He's playing the game as you all are. You're just like excluding him. It just feels really not right. nice
SPEAKER_00:no it's it there's two things that i hate with it one is that it's you've been in different situations to miles miles has been on the bottom and has to has been on this tribe in this tribe and really had nobody so that is his only way of playing and surviving i just
SPEAKER_02:think it's the game is fair and you just have to be like fair game like getting shitty yeah that really it's just you just have to roll with it
SPEAKER_00:because what what do you want the game for and then the other one
SPEAKER_02:owes you shit
SPEAKER_00:yeah the other thing that i hated with it from the very start in jet like now he i know he refers to himself as the jungle rat yeah which is great but at the start i hated it yeah because it's that whole yeah it's the whole like i think it was great a few seasons ago when benjamin law was on it and he talked about it because they immediately were like he's a snake and you were like why what and he made like this whole he wrote an article yeah they're like that's just a stereotype that people are like asian men and women have like yes just enjoy it and i felt very the saying with them being like, I just don't... Little
SPEAKER_02:sneaky rat.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and they would just be like, I just don't like him. Okay, why? And
SPEAKER_02:Pauly as well. They were like... I also didn't get that. They were like, what a snake all it says. And they're like, literally the only like, you know, gay person out here. And you're all just going to be like, he's really like... sassy and shady and conniving. It's like, okay. You can't pretend these things don't play into it because they fucking do. I'm watching it at home and I'm like, this is insane.
SPEAKER_00:The Paulie thing was also wild because I couldn't recall yeah like and i still can't now and i've watched the whole season but every episode i'd be like wait why did why is he a snake like what they never showed it and it was never like some huge thing that he did where he's playing the fucking game it's a
SPEAKER_02:snake the game is snake
SPEAKER_00:exactly and i was just like okay you're just really pinning and he was just it's always on the bottom and they treated him so badly in those points and i was just like it's like
SPEAKER_02:white heteronormative culture being pervasive and being like we're the mainstream if you go against that there's something untrustworthy yeah it's literally that playing out on our screens
SPEAKER_00:literally that's what i saw this season aj is doing something yeah you can be like oh aj just loves to change the plans last minute
SPEAKER_02:he's entitled to do whatever he wants and when he does it he sees it and expects everyone to see it as genius play correct
SPEAKER_00:it's fucking infuriating people around him
SPEAKER_02:yeah
SPEAKER_00:just go oh he's just and they're He's just being a bit fun and chaotic. And he's never getting votes and he's never going home. Yeah, he's never been called snake or rat or anything like that because he's just a white man that is doing the same thing. It pisses me off. And so I'm glad for Miles in the sense that he seems to have reclaimed his status, but in saying the name of Jungle Rat, so to speak, but in saying that.
SPEAKER_02:He has been a good sport with that. And he's made merch and stuff, which I'm like, great.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, fucking monetize that, bro. Are you kidding? Totally. Have your moment. Just own it and I hope you own it to the end because that to me was just, you know, he doesn't have, he doesn't owe anybody anything. We're getting
SPEAKER_02:there. Like it's still way better than like it was seasons ago where this vibe was really aggressive. I feel like it's now it's there, but it's covert. I feel like it's just kind of, yeah a lot
SPEAKER_00:of see it felt like that as well also way back in like i hated kent hated kent oh yeah and that was like a thing he just straight up was like i'm going for that guy i don't like him he's sneaky and i don't yeah he's like i just don't like him okay why
SPEAKER_02:yeah
SPEAKER_00:at least be like that he's annoying or like say that but he'll just be like i just don't like him i just don't trust him i'm like okay well that's just a stereotype that you're just showing right now yeah I mean, let's not talk about that insufferable
SPEAKER_02:vlog. That guy got voted out right away. And Miles
SPEAKER_00:is likely going to win. King Miles, I've liked you from the start. I loved... I mean, it was an old episode, but I will say that I did love the... How good he was at soccer. How counted out he was. How he said, I would love to do this. The golden foot,
SPEAKER_02:baby. The music they put on
SPEAKER_00:him. Yeah, this kind of entertaining
SPEAKER_02:music. But now I'm like... All of that is telling me that Miles is going to win.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I would also be very happy with a Cailin win. But I tell you what, if AJ fucking wins
SPEAKER_00:this season, we riot. We riot at midnight. Don't. I would just be like, what has the last three months been for? Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02:Oh. Four
SPEAKER_00:months? I just feel like I've been like, I could have just not... I'm going
SPEAKER_02:to need you to check in if that happens because I'm not going to be
SPEAKER_00:okay. I just will be like, cool. So that's 29 years of my life that I can't get back because AJ won. God.
SPEAKER_02:I do need to give a special honourable mention slash shout out to the doctor at Drew Villa. So when they finish, they go straight to this doctor. Oh, yeah. And on Kate's episode, he's like, oh... Kate, I didn't expect to see you here. And I'm like, okay, calm down, fan girl. Like, are you watching the show? Like, it hasn't aired yet. Are you just like, is the Doctor just like there while they're filming?
SPEAKER_00:And just watching the dailies? He's
SPEAKER_02:like, ooh. He's like getting involved with the strat. I'm like, put the Doctor on next season. Or
SPEAKER_00:do like a Gogglebox thing. I'm going to go home and watch all the... You'll
SPEAKER_02:love it. He's like, oh, Kate. He's like all upset that his fave has been kicked out. I'm like... Maybe
SPEAKER_00:it's because of what he hears from everyone else coming to Jury Villa and he's like, Kate's my pick to win or something. Yeah, true.
SPEAKER_02:And of course he's all, and she's all like, oh my God, I'm hot. She's like, I'm like tanned and skinny. And I was like, get it. The real reason
SPEAKER_00:she went out there. Yeah, absolutely. She was like, so fun. My hair's longer. I want to get a tape on. Yeah. A tape
SPEAKER_02:on. Oh God. Well, we did it. We did it. Thank you so much, Rachel. One week left. I mean, obviously we're all, Aggressively team Miles.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Nothing, few that I wouldn't hate, but I wouldn't love if I'm honest.
SPEAKER_02:Honestly, the gaggery of Zara winning would also be quite fun.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know if I'd go as far as fun, but you know. Maybe she can become the president. As well, because I love, yeah, maybe that's all it takes. I think as well, I did love like Kaylin actually being good at puzzles. Like that was such a gag me moment of like, yeah. Can you not tell them I'm good at puzzles?
SPEAKER_02:That was one of the best moments of the season. Absolutely. Hey, don't tell them. Don't tell them I'm
SPEAKER_00:good at puzzles. Don't tell them
SPEAKER_02:that I'm
SPEAKER_00:good. And also, JLP agreeing. I was like, slay. King, like, you know, Jeff Probst could never. Jeff Probst is
SPEAKER_02:so serious.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, my God. So serious. Like, JLP was like... Kalen's still working on that puzzle and just, you know, showing all these things. Oh my God,
SPEAKER_02:Jeff Pope's made, I need to say, so I'm begrudgingly watching season 48, which is so shit. Is it? I'm watching it because I've watched every season and I'm not stopping now and we're coming up to 50, so I'm like, we're doing it. But he made the, I have this theory that, because Jeff hates JLP, right? Because, of course, but I have this theory that Other people at CBS are watching Australian Survivor to try and get the secret formula. Fair. And they're like trying to get Jeff to be a bit more funny with the chat. And he made this joke in a challenge. Because you know how JLP is always, you know, with the innuendo. And it's so good. But it's cheeky. Release that nut sack. Yeah. He tried to do that with a ball joke. And it was... I'm not joking. Like... I like... My body froze. I want to sink into the couch. I haven't even heard it. He was like, what did he say? It was like two of those balls in that sack or something. Just like in real life. And I was like, sorry, mister. It was something like that. And it was so... It was like grandpa trying to make a funny joke, but it didn't land. But the conviction was like not humorous. I... died. Just off.
SPEAKER_00:TV off. I was like, I don't think I can do it. Guess we'll find out what happens next week.
SPEAKER_02:Because I've got it on in the background. It's like, I'll be like folding laundry
SPEAKER_00:or some shit. I follow the tweets or blue sky on it to be honest, but I don't watch it.
SPEAKER_02:There's actually some good, they cast it really well. I really like the cast, just for some reason it doesn't work as a show for me. There's too many little things going on
SPEAKER_00:and I don't care. And I do see some bits and pieces on TikTok, which is helpful. Like I saw a little bit of the, um, the girl with autism yeah and like the the friendship with that guy yeah that daddy and you know just very so i think see things like that but i think that Yeah, I can see why they'd be really interested in Oz Survivor because even the biggest Survivor fans online are like... Are living for it....over here. They're like, this is what I'm watching for.
SPEAKER_01:But
SPEAKER_02:that...
SPEAKER_00:Give it up, Jeff. Anyway. But, you know, we've got season 50 and we've got... That'll be great. Australia Vs. The World. Australia
SPEAKER_02:Vs. The World is probably more exciting than 50, let's be
SPEAKER_00:honest. A thousand percent. I'm so excited for Australia Vs. The World. It's giving Drag Race, you know, UK Vs. The World. Especially with
SPEAKER_02:like Pav and Dave. David. It's going to be so fun. Shawnee, King George.
SPEAKER_00:I love Shawnee so much.
SPEAKER_02:Anyway.
SPEAKER_00:Yay. Well, I'll see you soon. See you soon. Bye-bye.
UNKNOWN:Bye.
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